Seeker81 Posted July 7, 2015 Report Share Posted July 7, 2015 If this is not the correct place for this question please move it to the correct one. Thanks. Does anyone else feel like they are dropping back into "military mode" as my wife calls it, where when you are working out it is almost like an anger is building inside? Or is it just me? 3 Quote 6 week challenge 1% 1% Weight goal 260 Current weight 265 50% 50% Link to comment
Machete Posted July 7, 2015 Report Share Posted July 7, 2015 Only whenever someone [i don't respect] is trying to tell me how to do my workout. In my head I'm like "STFU, you uneducated philistine, you know nothing. Go learn how to read first." 1 Quote Valar Morghulis Halfling Monk, Chaotic Neutral Machete's Blog: Inside A Mad Mind Third World Warrior: The Eight-Year Training Log Link to comment
EmbracingChaos Posted July 7, 2015 Report Share Posted July 7, 2015 I tend to become more disciplined in other areas of my life when I am working out regularly, so I can see parallels to my time in the military. I don't necessarily get angry when I workout, though I do get intensely focused and very deliberate in channeling all of my power/strength. I probably look angry to others though when I'm trying to deadlift 2.5 or 3 times my bodyweight. Quote "Take arrows in your forehead, but never in your back" - Samurai Maxim Challenges: 1, 2, 3, 4 Battle Log Hinge Habits, Be Like Water, Failure Should Be Welcomed, Architect Your Environment, Set Goals For Processes Not Desires, Minimum Effective Dose 101 Link to comment
Hippofeet Posted July 12, 2015 Report Share Posted July 12, 2015 I wish I did. I would get in some higher intensity workouts. Maybe it's a combat arms thing, I'm not a combat vet. I just chilled out on the flight deck on a lawn chair while E-3's brought me perfectly chilled daiquiries 24/7 GO NAVY lol Quote Link to comment
Seeker81 Posted July 13, 2015 Author Report Share Posted July 13, 2015 lol well it's not combat arms USAF I was a crew chief on the F-16. 1 Quote 6 week challenge 1% 1% Weight goal 260 Current weight 265 50% 50% Link to comment
Machete Posted July 13, 2015 Report Share Posted July 13, 2015 I wish I did. I would get in some higher intensity workouts. Maybe it's a combat arms thing, I'm not a combat vet. I just chilled out on the flight deck on a lawn chair while E-3's brought me perfectly chilled daiquiries 24/7 GO NAVY lol Nice. Quote Valar Morghulis Halfling Monk, Chaotic Neutral Machete's Blog: Inside A Mad Mind Third World Warrior: The Eight-Year Training Log Link to comment
DrFeelgood Posted July 13, 2015 Report Share Posted July 13, 2015 lol well it's not combat arms USAF I was a crew chief on the F-16. Same. I don't think I ever did any discrete exercise during my entire enlistment, mostly because I didn't need to. I only recall having to do the fit test once, and it was a joke. Working out now is it's own new brand of "military mode" since I'm an Army civilian and I use the gym on post. Quote He has showed you, O man, what is good; and what does the LORD require of you but to do justly, and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with your God? Link to comment
Rurik Harrgath Posted July 13, 2015 Report Share Posted July 13, 2015 I think the reason the 6 week challenges, mini-quests, and my own goals are so effective for me are their regimented and detailed nature. I've definitely missed the group/community aspect of military PT, and between my CrossFit gym and the challenges here, there is definitely some kind of magic working for me. There's also something to be said for accountability. I've talked about it elsewhere, but I usually refer to the 'anger' you mentioned as the fire in my belly. I just let it ignite when it's workout time. Quote [Level ??] Rurik, the Thunderer Class: Stormborn War-Shaman (Path of Giants Barbarian/Conquest Paladin/Elemental Domain Cleric) BRUTALITY 11 | FINESSE 10 | VIGOR 11 | INSIGHT 14 | WILL 13 Equipment: Studded leather armor, war club, plus adventurer's pack containing rations, rope, and nature-based potions. "Rangers have to at least give up on pants. It's a special rule we enacted after Rurik became a Guild Leader.” – DarK_RaideR "Did I just get my ass kicked by a member of Metallica meets History Channel's Vikings?" - Wild Wolf "By the Well-Oiled-and-Meticulously-Groomed Beard of Rurik!" - Tanktimus the Encourager Link to comment
Raze Posted July 14, 2015 Report Share Posted July 14, 2015 I never really left the military (except for a 4 month period immediately after my EAS when I couldnt find a job) I went overseas to work with the army for two years and now I'm back stateside with the Marines for the past year and a half thus far. I just changed uniforms and gained about 80Lbs since I left active duty. I do miss the accountability that the military brought with regards to working out although I hated it at the time. I enjoy my workouts more now that I am doing it for me and no one else, but it is just me doing and no one else to enjoy the pain with me anymore. Quote Level 1 Nord Epic Quest STR 3 | DEX 3 | STA 2 | CON 3 | WIS 3.5 | CHA 4 Original Challenge | 1ST | 2nd | joining the bebop | Return to the rangers | Spoiler "They wouldn't mind a corpse of you. Now, you can luxuriate in a nice jail cell, but if your hand touches metal, I swear, by my pretty floral bonnet, I will end you." - Mal Link to comment
Seeker81 Posted July 14, 2015 Author Report Share Posted July 14, 2015 I got out back in 2011, fully embraced the civilian life for about 3.5 years found a great job doing network analysis thought life was great. Then my wife took a picture of me saying how happy she is that we are having a baby boy and I got a reality check. I used to wonder how prior military could get so out of shape....now I know. *shrugs* So I shaved my head back to regs, got rid of the beard and now I am committed to getting back to a healthy weight. 4 Quote 6 week challenge 1% 1% Weight goal 260 Current weight 265 50% 50% Link to comment
Raze Posted July 14, 2015 Report Share Posted July 14, 2015 I got out back in 2011, fully embraced the civilian life for about 3.5 years found a great job doing network analysis thought life was great. Then my wife took a picture of me saying how happy she is that we are having a baby boy and I got a reality check. I used to wonder how prior military could get so out of shape....now I know. *shrugs* So I shaved my head back to regs, got rid of the beard and now I am committed to getting back to a healthy weight. I didn't fully embrace the civilian life until about 2.5 years after I got out. Quite hard to fully embrace in Afghanistan. When I got back however I made up for two years of no drinking and just stopped working out and started to eat like shit and in a year gained nearly 100 pounds and recently had a reality check both in all the clothes I have had to buy and a trip to an amusement park where I could no longer fit into a ride just 8 months prior I was perfectly fine. ive been cracking down and moving along slowly for the past 5 weeks getting back into the swing of things. 1 Quote Level 1 Nord Epic Quest STR 3 | DEX 3 | STA 2 | CON 3 | WIS 3.5 | CHA 4 Original Challenge | 1ST | 2nd | joining the bebop | Return to the rangers | Spoiler "They wouldn't mind a corpse of you. Now, you can luxuriate in a nice jail cell, but if your hand touches metal, I swear, by my pretty floral bonnet, I will end you." - Mal Link to comment
Evicious Posted July 14, 2015 Report Share Posted July 14, 2015 Still active duty, but found myself in a unit where we don't do group PT. I thought it was awesome until my last PT test when I realized I'd put on about 20Lbs since Afghanistan. There's something to be said for the magical combination of not having access to alcohol to destress and having the gym open 24/7. Trying to get back to that same intensity is proving difficult; I'm going to group workouts at my gym off-post in an attempt to bring back some of that feeling of shared suckiness. It helps that my CPT recently signed up there as well: makes it much harder to come to work and act like everything's normal when I know I'll have to see her and she'll ask why I wasn't there that morning. I'm terrified of getting out and ballooning up. I've seen so many of my fellow soldiers do it. I'm kinda hoping that working out in a civilian gym in civvies, of my own volition and out of my own cheque book, will make it feel normal and easy to keep doing once I ETS. 2 Quote Evicious, Khajjit Ranger STR 7 | DEX 13 | STA 3 | CON 6 | WIS 16 | CHA 4 Current 4WC: Evicious: The Unburdening II + Blitz Week! Fitocracy! I Play To Win! Keep up the momentum! Link to comment
EmbracingChaos Posted July 14, 2015 Report Share Posted July 14, 2015 Still active duty, but found myself in a unit where we don't do group PT. I thought it was awesome until my last PT test when I realized I'd put on about 20Lbs since Afghanistan. There's something to be said for the magical combination of not having access to alcohol to destress and having the gym open 24/7. Trying to get back to that same intensity is proving difficult; I'm going to group workouts at my gym off-post in an attempt to bring back some of that feeling of shared suckiness. It helps that my CPT recently signed up there as well: makes it much harder to come to work and act like everything's normal when I know I'll have to see her and she'll ask why I wasn't there that morning. I'm terrified of getting out and ballooning up. I've seen so many of my fellow soldiers do it. I'm kinda hoping that working out in a civilian gym in civvies, of my own volition and out of my own cheque book, will make it feel normal and easy to keep doing once I ETS. The key thing is you're paying attention, you've seen others balloon up and you're scared of it. Most of the time it happens to people that aren't paying attention to it, it just honestly doesn't even come to mind until it's too late. You've experienced that "oh crap" moment already, so hopefully it won't sneak up on you. 2 Quote "Take arrows in your forehead, but never in your back" - Samurai Maxim Challenges: 1, 2, 3, 4 Battle Log Hinge Habits, Be Like Water, Failure Should Be Welcomed, Architect Your Environment, Set Goals For Processes Not Desires, Minimum Effective Dose 101 Link to comment
DrFeelgood Posted July 14, 2015 Report Share Posted July 14, 2015 I got out back in 2011, fully embraced the civilian life for about 3.5 years found a great job doing network analysis thought life was great. Then my wife took a picture of me saying how happy she is that we are having a baby boy and I got a reality check. I used to wonder how prior military could get so out of shape....now I know. *shrugs* So I shaved my head back to regs, got rid of the beard and now I am committed to getting back to a healthy weight. I got out in 2000 and went to college then grad school, but it wasn't until after my kids arrived and taking a desk job with DoD that I really started plumping up. I didn't see it coming on, then one summer vacation (2012) my wife caught me in this picture and I knew it was time to change: Life just creeps up on you when you're not paying attention. Crewing Vipers was its own workout, so I never really needed the discipline of exercise. Now I've got it, and I'm developing self-control with my eating, too. Took me a few years to finally "get" it, but thanks to determination and NF I'm already in better shape than when I separated from active duty. 1 Quote He has showed you, O man, what is good; and what does the LORD require of you but to do justly, and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with your God? Link to comment
Seeker81 Posted July 14, 2015 Author Report Share Posted July 14, 2015 ADG changes, phase inspections, butter bars, tube jumps and the mule yeah can't say I miss those and you are right crewing a viper is/was it's own workout. 1 Quote 6 week challenge 1% 1% Weight goal 260 Current weight 265 50% 50% Link to comment
Raze Posted July 14, 2015 Report Share Posted July 14, 2015 ... desk job with DoD that I really started plumping up. This is a key factor. In my whole working life (less than 10 years) Ive only had one job which wasn't a desk job and that only lasted 4 months... I love the field I am in, but sitting behind a desk day in and day out for 8-12+ hours a day really drains the life out of you.... Quote Level 1 Nord Epic Quest STR 3 | DEX 3 | STA 2 | CON 3 | WIS 3.5 | CHA 4 Original Challenge | 1ST | 2nd | joining the bebop | Return to the rangers | Spoiler "They wouldn't mind a corpse of you. Now, you can luxuriate in a nice jail cell, but if your hand touches metal, I swear, by my pretty floral bonnet, I will end you." - Mal Link to comment
Rurik Harrgath Posted July 14, 2015 Report Share Posted July 14, 2015 I'm terrified of getting out and ballooning up. I've seen so many of my fellow soldiers do it. I'm kinda hoping that working out in a civilian gym in civvies, of my own volition and out of my own cheque book, will make it feel normal and easy to keep doing once I ETS.The key thing is you're paying attention, you've seen others balloon up and you're scared of it. Most of the time it happens to people that aren't paying attention to it, it just honestly doesn't even come to mind until it's too late. You've experienced that "oh crap" moment already, so hopefully it won't sneak up on you. My best advice, having been there myself, is to find something that keeps you hungry. Always working at it. For me it's been CrossFIt and now adventure races. Spartan race, Tough Mudder, etc. I wish I had found both of these back in 2009 when I was medical'd out (army doctors fail compared to civvies, apparently). I'm actually in better shape now than I ever was before or during my stint in uniform. 3 Quote [Level ??] Rurik, the Thunderer Class: Stormborn War-Shaman (Path of Giants Barbarian/Conquest Paladin/Elemental Domain Cleric) BRUTALITY 11 | FINESSE 10 | VIGOR 11 | INSIGHT 14 | WILL 13 Equipment: Studded leather armor, war club, plus adventurer's pack containing rations, rope, and nature-based potions. "Rangers have to at least give up on pants. It's a special rule we enacted after Rurik became a Guild Leader.” – DarK_RaideR "Did I just get my ass kicked by a member of Metallica meets History Channel's Vikings?" - Wild Wolf "By the Well-Oiled-and-Meticulously-Groomed Beard of Rurik!" - Tanktimus the Encourager Link to comment
EmbracingChaos Posted July 14, 2015 Report Share Posted July 14, 2015 My best advice, having been there myself, is to find something that keeps you hungry. Always working at it. For me it's been CrossFIt and now adventure races. Spartan race, Tough Mudder, etc. I wish I had found both of these back in 2009 when I was medical'd out (army doctors fail compared to civvies, apparently). I'm actually in better shape now than I ever was before or during my stint in uniform. Excellent advice. Since I've been out I've ran a marathon and 50k, dropped to 10% body fat for a while, increased my powerlifting lifts by a ton, and have started bodyweight strength training. Had I found those types of things back before or right after I got out in 2006 I wouldn't have had to drop 60+ lbs. of fat. Quote "Take arrows in your forehead, but never in your back" - Samurai Maxim Challenges: 1, 2, 3, 4 Battle Log Hinge Habits, Be Like Water, Failure Should Be Welcomed, Architect Your Environment, Set Goals For Processes Not Desires, Minimum Effective Dose 101 Link to comment
Br0din Posted July 14, 2015 Report Share Posted July 14, 2015 Still active duty, but found myself in a unit where we don't do group PT. I thought it was awesome until my last PT test when I realized I'd put on about 20Lbs since Afghanistan. There's something to be said for the magical combination of not having access to alcohol to destress and having the gym open 24/7. Trying to get back to that same intensity is proving difficult; I'm going to group workouts at my gym off-post in an attempt to bring back some of that feeling of shared suckiness. It helps that my CPT recently signed up there as well: makes it much harder to come to work and act like everything's normal when I know I'll have to see her and she'll ask why I wasn't there that morning. I'm terrified of getting out and ballooning up. I've seen so many of my fellow soldiers do it. I'm kinda hoping that working out in a civilian gym in civvies, of my own volition and out of my own cheque book, will make it feel normal and easy to keep doing once I ETS. If you build the process cause you like doing it, you will do it when you don't have too. Those people who balloon up are the same ones the gain the "freshmen 15." You stop being active in your sport and you make your own food decisions. I'm still looking for my activity like rurik suggests... My best advice, having been there myself, is to find something that keeps you hungry. Always working at it. For me it's been CrossFIt and now adventure races. Spartan race, Tough Mudder, etc. I wish I had found both of these back in 2009 when I was medical'd out (army doctors fail compared to civvies, apparently). I'm actually in better shape now than I ever was before or during my stint in uniform. I need a sport. I was getting into PL, but I"m broken so that won't work. I just can't afford crossfit or soccer or beer league softball right now. I can't get into swimming again, because I'll never be as good as I used to be. I do sometimes wish I could go on another trip to fat-camp Afghanistan again. I lost 50lbs on my 2nd trip there with in 8 months. This time the 50lbs is taking me over 2 years... I do sometimes get angry at other people in the gym. I had to go ape shit on a dude who didn't ask to work in and just sat his sweaty ass on my towel... And I do get upset when people don't rerack the DBs properly... Then thing I need to learn to turn off is "there is someone always working harder than you" / "you didn't need rest when you were in XXXXX school, why do you need it now" mentality. I"m getting too old/hurt for that shit. 1 Quote May Br0din bless you with mighty gains, and may your shaker bottle always be full. Wheymen ...and, if you die... Walk it off - Captain America Level 13: 1/4 Giant Warrior STR - 50 | DEX - 19 | STA - 19 | CON - 14 | WIS - 28 | CHA - 24 My food logging is here*: MFP: tyrsnbdr Link to comment
Seeker81 Posted July 15, 2015 Author Report Share Posted July 15, 2015 It is true that someone is always working harder, that is just life. After all what would there be to strive for if we were perfect? Since my first post the anger/frustration I felt has dropped back down to normal levels. Guess I just needed to hear other vets vent or something idk. At any rate love this site. 1 Quote 6 week challenge 1% 1% Weight goal 260 Current weight 265 50% 50% Link to comment
DrFeelgood Posted July 15, 2015 Report Share Posted July 15, 2015 What squadron(s) were you with, Seeker81? Did you do MRT at Luke? Quote He has showed you, O man, what is good; and what does the LORD require of you but to do justly, and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with your God? Link to comment
Rurik Harrgath Posted July 15, 2015 Report Share Posted July 15, 2015 It is true that someone is always working harder, that is just life. After all what would there be to strive for if we were perfect? Since my first post the anger/frustration I felt has dropped back down to normal levels. Guess I just needed to hear other vets vent or something idk. At any rate love this site. Me too, man. Nerd Fitness is my home away from home. I spend more time here than Facebook (and I enjoy that time far far more)! Quote [Level ??] Rurik, the Thunderer Class: Stormborn War-Shaman (Path of Giants Barbarian/Conquest Paladin/Elemental Domain Cleric) BRUTALITY 11 | FINESSE 10 | VIGOR 11 | INSIGHT 14 | WILL 13 Equipment: Studded leather armor, war club, plus adventurer's pack containing rations, rope, and nature-based potions. "Rangers have to at least give up on pants. It's a special rule we enacted after Rurik became a Guild Leader.” – DarK_RaideR "Did I just get my ass kicked by a member of Metallica meets History Channel's Vikings?" - Wild Wolf "By the Well-Oiled-and-Meticulously-Groomed Beard of Rurik!" - Tanktimus the Encourager Link to comment
hwrdfrnd Posted July 15, 2015 Report Share Posted July 15, 2015 I was never in any form of good shape in the Navy, I weaseled my way out of most PT in boot camp(I was on ship staff and would sign myself out for watch every morning and go eat 1st breakfastes in the straggler line, then meet up with everyone else for showers and 2nd breakfastes).Then from A-school on I drank like it was my job. Eventually I showed up to a PFT still drunk in a Puerto Rico summer and got put on mando when I threw up halfway through my run and walked the rest of the way. I think it was over a 15 minute 1.5 mile run.But man where they some good times! 1 Quote Hwrdfrnd - Goblin AdventurerSTR 0 | DEX 0 | STA 0 | CON 0 | WIS 0 | CHA 0Current Challenge Link to comment
Seeker81 Posted July 16, 2015 Author Report Share Posted July 16, 2015 Yep I was in 308 Knights I want to say I just remember it being down from the panthers, then went to Shaw for a bit 20th EMS phase, Kunsan AFB ROK 20th EMS phase, back to Luke again to the 308th lol. Back to Korea Osan this time and finally Seymour Johnson because they just wanted to screw with my head and make me learn a new jet lol. The wife and I decided it was time to go when they, (the Air Force) said we want you to go work on heavys, HEAVYS!! at Minot ND....knew then it was time to go lol. 1 Quote 6 week challenge 1% 1% Weight goal 260 Current weight 265 50% 50% Link to comment
DrFeelgood Posted July 17, 2015 Report Share Posted July 17, 2015 I was at Cannon (524 Hounds) for my entire enlistment--after training of course. I did MRT with the Top Dogs. I got out to go to school before they could send me anywhere "fun". We did deploy for OSW, FWIC, and Red/Green Flags a bunch, though. Quote He has showed you, O man, what is good; and what does the LORD require of you but to do justly, and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with your God? Link to comment
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