SymphonicDan Posted January 3, 2016 Report Share Posted January 3, 2016 [For everyone, whether or not you're currently happy] In this PVP you can discover what (unexpected) factors affect your everyday happiness - so that in the future you can make simple changes to cause you more joy. For example, when I did a trial of this experiment in December I learned that if I was tired, I would not feel much joy even if I had many reasons to be happy. Therefore, this 4-week challenge I'm making sleep a priority. Psychology: our minds are not very good at remembering our past thoughts, so our minds guess what we probably thought ("Thinking, Fast and Slow" by Daniel Kahneman has more details). Usually this is a useful hack, but means that there are some factors that affect our mood that we don't notice. Experiment: to learn more about what affects your mood, at random times during the day ask yourself how joyful you're feeling, and what factors are affecting it. After a couple of weeks, you can look at the data you've collected to make conclusions. Method: there are (at least) three ways to randomly remember to make a note of your happiness: random notifications: using a smartphone app, or similar, have an alarm alert you ~5 times per day. I use "Sleep Check Reminder" for Android, which is actually a lucid dreaming app (!) but its settings were more configurable than what I found elsewhere. Alternatives - in decreasing order of suitability - include: TagTime --- probably best Sleep Check Reminder --- what I'm using AlarmRoller Random Reminders Forget Location Reminder (overpowered but should work) EmotionSense (an happiness experiment organized by Cambridge University) Roaming Reminder + I'm sure there are more, including iPhone-only An alternative would be to ask someone each day to set some alarms at surprise times (so you don't expect them). planned notifications: if there are any situations that you're particularly interested about, then remember to notice your happiness at that time. For example, if you think your commute is boring but want to check whether it saps your happiness, then remember this next time you're on your commute. You might find that actually you're having lots of fun listening to the radio! Maybe set an alarm for an appropriate time so you won't forget unplanned notifications: if you randomly remember about this experiment during the day, you can (optionally) notice your happiness then too I suggest that at minimum you have either planned notifications or random notifications when you take part, but ideally have both. It's up to you, but you'll get better conclusions if you sample a wide variety of situations. I'd suggest 5-10 notifications per day so you get some data but it's not a noticeable time investment. Results: each time you collect data about your mood, I'd suggest collecting the following: day and time (approximate is fine) happiness score on a scale from 1-7 (or another rating system if you prefer) current activity factors affecting your mood (e.g. environment, worries, positive thoughts, etc.) You may like to collect other information, like: description of mood (excited, angry, bored, relaxed, etc.) are you focused on the activity are your muscles tensed? what were you thinking about? music you're listening to (if any) who is present + other things you want to track However, in some situations you might not have a chance to write down the result immediately, so it's best to stick to a small list. If you rate your happiness and think of a couple of factors affecting it, that information is easy to remember later on when it's appropriate to write down the result. Conclusions: at the end of your experiment, interpret the results of your challenge however you like, but a couple of points: what common themes (environment, thoughts) affected your mood? Can you change these? correlation does not imply causation! If you're always sad when doing X, maybe doing X makes you sad, but maybe instead you do X when you're sad because it distracts you. How to participate: if you'd just like to watch/discuss, that's okay If you're going to join me: you're free to share as much or as little information with us as you like. If your results or conclusions are something you'd prefer to keep secret, just don't post all/any of them post to let us know you intend to join the experiment choose a period (I suggest 2 weeks, but it's up to you) during which you'll make notes on your happiness choose how you'll notify yourself, and how you'll record your results if you have any thoughts or problems, post them here so we can help each other Good luck everyone: let's get wise 2 Quote Level 25 Cyborg Assassin [ STR 36.75 | DEX 26.00 | STA 28.00 | CON 31.25 | WIS 29.25 | CHA 24.50 ] current 5-week challenge: March 2020 external websites with my resources for... fitness & breathwork | mental math & mind sports | motivation & productivity Link to comment
annyshay Posted January 4, 2016 Report Share Posted January 4, 2016 I'm in... I'll work out a plan in the near future. 1 Quote Love as thou wilt. Link to comment
Lara Posted January 4, 2016 Report Share Posted January 4, 2016 This is a thread I will follow with much interest.Unfortunately, I won't be taking part on it for now, because I'm rather busy trying to accept those two slaps on my face the book I'm reading gave me last night over my behavior and attitude towards my goals. I've got to work on that urgently... and I've already given in to the assassins mini! I had really forgotten how active is this guild, oh my 2 Quote Link to comment
lucky fire dragon Posted January 4, 2016 Report Share Posted January 4, 2016 This is a thread I will follow with much interest.Unfortunately, I won't be taking part on it for now, because I'm rather busy trying to accept those two slaps on my face the book I'm reading gave me last night over my behavior and attitude towards my goals. I've got to work on that urgently... and I've already given in to the assassins mini! I had really forgotten how active is this guild, oh my I feel you, am in a similar situation. Very intrigued by this yet super busy with my goals as is (and gave in to the mini after all as well)... Dan, this is awesome, I want to do it and appreciate your suggestion of a two week time frame so for instance if I join in second half of January would also work, right? I used to have a "happy list" of things that make me feel good, but it would be great to review, my life has gotten so much busier since, so this should be very enlightening indeed. 2 Quote Level 18 Wood-Elf Assassin battle log: counting the good things current challenge: something, nothing, all the things previous challenges: 25, 24, 23, 22, 21, 20, 19, 18, 17, 16, 15, 14, 13, 12, 11, 10, 9, 8, 7, 6, 5, 4, 3, 2, 1 How cool is it that the same God who created mountains and oceans and galaxies looked at you and thought the world needed one of you, too Link to comment
SymphonicDan Posted January 5, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 5, 2016 I'm in... I'll work out a plan in the near future. Cool looking forward to seeing how it works for you! This is a thread I will follow with much interest.Unfortunately, I won't be taking part on it for now, because I'm rather busy trying to accept those two slaps on my face the book I'm reading gave me last night over my behavior and attitude towards my goals. I've got to work on that urgently... and I've already given in to the assassins mini! I had really forgotten how active is this guild, oh my *checks out the Assassin mini* Dan, this is awesome, I want to do it and appreciate your suggestion of a two week time frame so for instance if I join in second half of January would also work, right? Yes, of course that's fine I can even extend the PvP if many people want it later on. Joining us for the second half of the challenge would be perfect. 1 Quote Level 25 Cyborg Assassin [ STR 36.75 | DEX 26.00 | STA 28.00 | CON 31.25 | WIS 29.25 | CHA 24.50 ] current 5-week challenge: March 2020 external websites with my resources for... fitness & breathwork | mental math & mind sports | motivation & productivity Link to comment
Mad Hatter Posted January 5, 2016 Report Share Posted January 5, 2016 I just tried TagTime but they had a typo, darg instead of drag, and I just couldn't. I'm in though, just need to find an app. 1 Quote Link to comment
annyshay Posted January 9, 2016 Report Share Posted January 9, 2016 How's it going Dan? Any trends yet? 1 Quote Love as thou wilt. Link to comment
SymphonicDan Posted January 9, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 9, 2016 I just tried TagTime but they had a typo, darg instead of drag, and I just couldn't. I'm in though, just need to find an app. Haha, they go to all the hard work making an app that works, and then make a silly typ0 Any luck yet finding an app? How's it going Dan? Any trends yet? I have 24 data points over 5-and-a-half days. It's too early to draw conclusions, but music seems to have a positive effect even if it's doom metal, and the endorphin high after exercise has a positive effect too. Being tired has a negative effect; I had an amazing sleep last night and suddenly I'm scoring 6 (on my scale from 1-7). Physical discomfort (being too cold, etc.) has more of a negative effect than I anticipated. But most of that is unsurprising, and I'll need more data before I can draw proper conclusions A problem I have with the data collection is that I don't hear any notification or remember to create a data point when I'm doing interesting activities, so most of them end up being when I'm just sitting at my desk.... I should add some planned notifications to deal with this. I'm at a restaurant for a friend's birthday this evening so I should do a couple then. 3 Quote Level 25 Cyborg Assassin [ STR 36.75 | DEX 26.00 | STA 28.00 | CON 31.25 | WIS 29.25 | CHA 24.50 ] current 5-week challenge: March 2020 external websites with my resources for... fitness & breathwork | mental math & mind sports | motivation & productivity Link to comment
fitnessgurl Posted January 9, 2016 Report Share Posted January 9, 2016 This is pretty interesting. Maybe I'll pick it up with the next challenge if it's still active. 1 Quote L3 Human Ranger/Assassin Str. 6 Dex. 2 Sta. 1 Con. 12 Wis. 8 Cha. 3 https://www.nerdfitness.com/character/58014 Motto: Where there is life, there is hope. Soli Deo Gloria Link to comment
Mad Hatter Posted January 9, 2016 Report Share Posted January 9, 2016 I did, but data tracking hasn't really happened yet. I found myself in the same position as you, I never hear my phone so I only see the notifications when I pick it up. But I will give it a proper go soon. 1 Quote Link to comment
annyshay Posted January 10, 2016 Report Share Posted January 10, 2016 I did, but data tracking hasn't really happened yet. I found myself in the same position as you, I never hear my phone so I only see the notifications when I pick it up. But I will give it a proper go soon.Truthfully, this sounds like a good problem. Too busy having fun to document how happy one is = nerd problems. 2 Quote Love as thou wilt. Link to comment
SymphonicDan Posted January 19, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 19, 2016 This is pretty interesting. Maybe I'll pick it up with the next challenge if it's still active. If a few people want to commit to doing it next challenge, I'll keep it open I did, but data tracking hasn't really happened yet. I found myself in the same position as you, I never hear my phone so I only see the notifications when I pick it up. But I will give it a proper go soon. Have you managed to collect some data now? Even a small amount can be insightful even if you skip days or only get a couple of data points per day. I've been really intermittent, but have 46 data points spread out over a couple of weeks. Maybe I'll try to get 100 total by the end of the challenge.... Truthfully, this sounds like a good problem. Too busy having fun to document how happy one is = nerd problems. Haha, I think anybody documenting their happiness is probably some sort of nerd How are you doing with this? Did you figure out a way to start? Update: so I slacked most of last week, but picked it back up again on the weekend. I'm now at 46 data points, so by the end of the challenge I should be able to make some sensible conclusions based on what I've recorded. 2 Quote Level 25 Cyborg Assassin [ STR 36.75 | DEX 26.00 | STA 28.00 | CON 31.25 | WIS 29.25 | CHA 24.50 ] current 5-week challenge: March 2020 external websites with my resources for... fitness & breathwork | mental math & mind sports | motivation & productivity Link to comment
SymphonicDan Posted January 31, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 31, 2016 So I have 111 data points so far, and might collect a few more today. Then I'll analyze and publish some conclusions It looks like no-one else got round to doing this experiment this challenge - does anyone want this kept open for next challenge? Otherwise I'll have it closed in a week's time as per protocol. Quote Level 25 Cyborg Assassin [ STR 36.75 | DEX 26.00 | STA 28.00 | CON 31.25 | WIS 29.25 | CHA 24.50 ] current 5-week challenge: March 2020 external websites with my resources for... fitness & breathwork | mental math & mind sports | motivation & productivity Link to comment
Lara Posted January 31, 2016 Report Share Posted January 31, 2016 I think annyshay has collected some data, but she hasn't got time to post anything about them. 1 Quote Link to comment
fitnessgurl Posted January 31, 2016 Report Share Posted January 31, 2016 So I have 111 data points so far, and might collect a few more today. Then I'll analyze and publish some conclusions It looks like no-one else got round to doing this experiment this challenge - does anyone want this kept open for next challenge? Otherwise I'll have it closed in a week's time as per protocol.I'm interested in doing this; especially since I'm going to be tracking food and sleep for the next challenge. 1 Quote L3 Human Ranger/Assassin Str. 6 Dex. 2 Sta. 1 Con. 12 Wis. 8 Cha. 3 https://www.nerdfitness.com/character/58014 Motto: Where there is life, there is hope. Soli Deo Gloria Link to comment
annyshay Posted January 31, 2016 Report Share Posted January 31, 2016 I think annyshay has collected some data, but she hasn't got time to post anything about them.Hah. Yes. Accurate. Today is my day off though... soooooooo, keep your fingers crossed! Quote Love as thou wilt. Link to comment
annyshay Posted January 31, 2016 Report Share Posted January 31, 2016 So, I took two weeks of time from Jan 11th to Jan 24th to track my mood and related circumstances. I set up 6 alarms to go off during the day and then answered them whenever I saw them. It was interesting to collect the data, now it’s time to analyze! Warning: Raw Data behind ze 1/110609 - 7 - happy, calm0733 - 5 - cold toes, anxious re: work1049 - 6 - enjoying rounds1226 - 5 - stressed re work, tasty lunch1605 - 4 - Hectic, too much to do1/121123 - 6 - tea, let’s round!1325 - 4 - stressed, runningAnd then I realized tracking on my phone was more likely to happen that in a separate book. 1/130512 - 6 - waking up, somewhat stiff0737 - 8 - relaxed, tasty breakfast1105 - 4 - all the work stress1225 - 5 - grand rounds, full, work stress1805 - 3 - craaaaaaazy rounds are crazy2031 - 6 - yay dancing, still lots to do…1/140510 - 4 - ugh I don’t wana do journal club0733 - 8 - good breakfast, productive1245 - 5 - busy busy as per usual1737 - 6 - heading home, 5+ notes to go2027 - 2 - just finished last note on chronic Lyme, tired, overworked, and without sugar1/150510 - 3 - don’t wanna get out of bed or exercise0754 - 5 - less bad 1303 - 3 - sick of being an intern1529 - 6 - homeward bound2106 - 5 - should go to bed but video games1/160630 - 7 - sleeeeep and fancy light 0815 - 8 - tuck L-sit!!!!!1408 - 5 - lots yet to do1746 - 7 - very productive1953 - 8 - wine, former roomie, and Who1/170630 - 7 - time to move it move it0739 - 7 - getting ready for church1318 - 6 - enjoying kitteh snuggles but sorta restless1737 - 8 - junk food and skyping with mom!1953 - 5 - don’t wanna work tomorrow1/180528 - 6 - not bad?0733 - 6 - cold toes1209 - 8 - heading home!1254 - 7 - still on ze bus1549 - 5 - cold, and stop paging me1745 - 7 - full, warm, making progress1953 - 7 - hunting rebels1/190609 - 6 - slow start today0852 - 5 - cold and late1241 - 6 - still hungry 1629 - 6 - overfull, gotta workout1853 - 8 - strong, pleasantly full, brewing tea1953 - 8 - tea, Dragon, video games1/200627 - 7 - not bad at all0923 - 6 - cold1213 - 6 - stressful talk with ICU1525 - 7 - good, interesting1737 - 7 - meditating2046 - 8 - and sleep1/210724 - 5 - presenting = anxiousAND then there were public tears during the day… so consider a few 2-3 scores1538 - 6 - teaching and stuff, still stress1/220715 - 7 - ralying1240 - 8 - fun with the team1650 - 5 - intense family meeting1737 - 6 - cold and hungry2023 - 71/230612 - 7 - day off!!!0733 - 9 - kitteh pj tea snuggles!!!1052 - 8 - avengers and workout and tea1253 - 8 - bath and tea and mmmmm1955 - 7 - good day1/240649 - 7 - good start0733 - 8 - brief kitteh snuggles are still lovely1348 - 6 - nap time1537 - 7 - warm1737 - 6 - restless1953 - 7 - tea! Phew! Data! 3 Quote Love as thou wilt. Link to comment
annyshay Posted January 31, 2016 Report Share Posted January 31, 2016 Observationsfriends, family, tea, good breakfast, and kitteh snuggles are correlated with high happinesswork is correlated with 6 and underexpectations of public speaking or conflict are serious sources of stress and/or breakdowncold toes make me less happy business and pending work are my most frequent happiness sucks Do you guys see other patterns in the data? I’m curious as to your thoughts, since they will be more objective. 2 Quote Love as thou wilt. Link to comment
Lara Posted January 31, 2016 Report Share Posted January 31, 2016 Observationsfriends, family, tea, good breakfast, and kitteh snuggles are correlated with high happinesswork is correlated with 6 and underexpectations of public speaking or conflict are serious sources of stress and/or breakdowncold toes make me less happy most frequent happiness sucks Do you guys see other patterns in the data? I’m curious as to your thoughts, since they will be more objective. I am glad to see I am not the only one that loses happiness when feet are cold It's a pity your job is so stressing. It is not only the scores, is the words you use to refer to it (mostly "stress" and "anxious"). Is there anything you can do about it? 1 Quote Link to comment
annyshay Posted January 31, 2016 Report Share Posted January 31, 2016 I am glad to see I am not the only one that loses happiness when feet are cold It's a pity your job is so stressing. It is not only the scores, is the words you use to refer to it (mostly "stress" and "anxious"). Is there anything you can do about it? Very very good question. I've been advised to do some "soul searching" about this fact. Maybe would be good for PM time, oh Wise one? 1 Quote Love as thou wilt. Link to comment
Lara Posted January 31, 2016 Report Share Posted January 31, 2016 Very very good question. I've been advised to do some "soul searching" about this fact. Maybe would be good for PM time, oh Wise one? Yeah, talk to the wise one, LOL! 2 Quote Link to comment
SymphonicDan Posted February 4, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 4, 2016 I'm interested in doing this; especially since I'm going to be tracking food and sleep for the next challenge. Okay cool I'll extend the timeframe until the end of February so you can run your experiment and get feedback here. Observationsfriends, family, tea, good breakfast, and kitteh snuggles are correlated with high happinesswork is correlated with 6 and underexpectations of public speaking or conflict are serious sources of stress and/or breakdowncold toes make me less happy business and pending work are my most frequent happiness sucks Do you guys see other patterns in the data? I’m curious as to your thoughts, since they will be more objective. Yay, I'm very pleased that I have someone else with results Thanks for joining in! I'm still analyzing mine (I'm having a super unproductive week do far, meh) but I'll post that soon! It's amusing that cold toes make you unhappy (I find the same!) but I wonder which way the correlation goes? It could be:my toes are cold => I'm unhappy (discomfort); orI'm tired => I'm unhappy and my feet are cold; orI'm hungry => I'm unhappy and my feet are cold; or(maybe another explanation)A big theme in your data is seeking comfort (kittens and breakfast) so maybe you could find some comfort things at work to look forward to? Especially social things in case you find your workplace somewhat impersonal? Also, I think with time and experience you'll become more numb to the anxiety of public speaking and conflict, where it's more of a mundane part of your job, and it won't worry you so much. 3 Quote Level 25 Cyborg Assassin [ STR 36.75 | DEX 26.00 | STA 28.00 | CON 31.25 | WIS 29.25 | CHA 24.50 ] current 5-week challenge: March 2020 external websites with my resources for... fitness & breathwork | mental math & mind sports | motivation & productivity Link to comment
fitnessgurl Posted February 4, 2016 Report Share Posted February 4, 2016 Ok, help!!! I set alarms to do this and they're actually annoying me & affecting my mood. What should I do? How can I record stuff? Quote L3 Human Ranger/Assassin Str. 6 Dex. 2 Sta. 1 Con. 12 Wis. 8 Cha. 3 https://www.nerdfitness.com/character/58014 Motto: Where there is life, there is hope. Soli Deo Gloria Link to comment
annyshay Posted February 4, 2016 Report Share Posted February 4, 2016 Okay cool I'll extend the timeframe until the end of February so you can run your experiment and get feedback here. Yay, I'm very pleased that I have someone else with results Thanks for joining in! I'm still analyzing mine (I'm having a super unproductive week do far, meh) but I'll post that soon! It's amusing that cold toes make you unhappy (I find the same!) but I wonder which way the correlation goes? It could be:my toes are cold => I'm unhappy (discomfort); orI'm tired => I'm unhappy and my feet are cold; orI'm hungry => I'm unhappy and my feet are cold; or(maybe another explanation)A big theme in your data is seeking comfort (kittens and breakfast) so maybe you could find some comfort things at work to look forward to? Especially social things in case you find your workplace somewhat impersonal? Also, I think with time and experience you'll become more numb to the anxiety of public speaking and conflict, where it's more of a mundane part of your job, and it won't worry you so much.This is really helpful, Dan. I think this is exactly why I've been eating comfort food too. Better ways to comfort my poor anxious self... hmmmm.... My life hasn't really ever been free of public speaking or conflict. It gets easier when it is more frequent, but I doubt it will ever be mundane for me. 1 Quote Love as thou wilt. Link to comment
annyshay Posted February 4, 2016 Report Share Posted February 4, 2016 Ok, help!!! I set alarms to do this and they're actually annoying me & affecting my mood. What should I do? How can I record stuff?Maybe wear something (bracelet? I dunno) that reminds you to record and write something every time you see it and think of it? 3 Quote Love as thou wilt. Link to comment
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