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I can't help.....reeeally want to know the answer to this tho. Have the same problem.....

According to tdee calculator I found(thx Atom...but I think you were being a touch generous) tdee=2146...so minus 500 = 1646/day(ouch). It's winter here,,,so my bike is hibernating...

So...are you in physical pain during your TOM or just heavy? As for the heavy flow....nothing every helped me except BCP(like a f'ing miracle, btw...but of course not for everyone). Before the bcp, I did use evening primrose....but you really need to take this everyday...its not like a Tylenol you take when you're in pain...it did help a bit with the pain tho.

Welp,,,,guess im back to the old drawing board huh. As when I was doing the bootcamp/biking I was eating no more than 1900 on w/o days, and 1650ish on non and still gained...so the above calculator seems way too high. I KNOW I don't burn 800+cals in a w/o.

Thanks Atom for doing those calculations. I guess i'm still stuck in the dark ages when it comes to total cals...I mean most sites still have chicks to eat between 1200-1500/day. I do think the estimate of the crossfit is a little much....but it is really hard even if the actual work is a short duration. Guess moral of the story is to keep trying. Cheers!

Atom....agreed on the looking better/stronger point....however although stronger, I am definitely not looking better....measures are going up, not down. if they were going down and the scale was going up, then there wouldn't be an issue as I would be getting smaller right? Cline..My bad...exaggerated on the 20lb gain...is about 15 since june, I was 154 one year ago. I must admit ima little embarrassed by the amnt of cheese I ate today..my bad, this is not the usual,,,normally have a single serve yogurt for my am snack to get me thru to lunch. I guess ima eating too much cauliflower and not enough greens huh? Dammit. I suppose I need to be cutting out the fruit too. Sigh. I've checked many different sites about my ideal cals/day...range from 1300-1900?? Pretty vague. All I know is I gained eating 1650-1850 doing bootcamp/ biking this summer...both weight and measure. At 155 I was far from buff....still soft,,,i really don't wanna be soft. I used the online navy bf calculator, and the one at the globo gym(which I know is not totally accurate, but I have a lot of obvious fat, so I don't think it's far off).

Cline.....female, 37, 5'8, 182(as of this am,,ugg). I was 167 June 19th of this year...by sept 1 I was 180 and this was WITH bootcamp and eating 1500-1900cal/day and biking 20-40 kms/week. Had a physical in July and all values were normal....most bldwk was above average....I don't mean 'high' I mean he was impressed. I 'seemed' comfortable at 155lbs...although at the time it still wasn't good enough...was still 30%bf. I rarely have a shake, sometimes after a workout when I know i'm not gonna get home for fuds for over an hour, otherwise I don't drink my cals...i'd rather eat Aight...so here's my day as it stands as planned for today... Bkfst .75c red pepper .5c onion .5c old cheddar 1c egg whites 1tbsp butter Lunch(approx. as I made a huge sucker) Cauliflower 'bread' stix(about 1/2 recipe) 1/2 head cauliflower 1/2c mozza cheese 1 egg i'2c crumbled bacon 1/2c tomato sauce Supper roast beef...prob about 6 oz roast carrots and sweet potato 1/2c greek yogurt. for snacks, i'll have 1/4c mixed nuts, apple, mixed veg, maybe 1c cottage cheese. This is non workout day.....if that makes a diff

Ya...if this 20 lbs I gained was all muscle i'd look like Hulk f'ing Hogan by now...... I know it's not muscle....I wish tho.

Thanks for stopping by Sheltie....good post! I used a online app(and still do from time to time, but not everyday, as I get a little ocd about what/time/how much/ blah blah...about food and go bonkers). I tried to 'eat back' the work out cals over the summer when I biked ALOT, because I got a new bike and I like it, not because I think that steady state cardio is a good way to lose weight, I just think it's fun. Anyhoo, I gained inches and weight eating back, and was 'recommended' by their posts to eat what was generated,,,,,which happens to be 1350-1670cals/day. Welp, in case you haven't noticed, I cannot eat 1350cals/day...I went stark raving mad(fyi, i'm a food addict too,,,whole other post, just mentioning it). I just don't get it now. I work out hard, harder than I did 3 years ago and cannot be successful. I mean, it was almost easy last time I did a total 360...I lost 20 lbs in 4 months and another 7(which was really hard btw) in 3 months and hovered btwn 155-160 for a year. PS Sheltie, re: carbs eat too much fruit to get the carbs up...I love me a banana. And roasted yams with lots of salt quite deeelish. And i'm NOT paleo, nor do I claim to be as I eat dairy...I just couldn't let it go, sorry nerds, me needs some greek yogurt.

Ya...I weigh/measure everything...esp meats cuz they add up in a hurry(made that mistake before). This is very frustrating as I've been on a 'diet' for 3 years now...consistant for the most part...and have recently gained 20lbs eating/tracking everything. In fact, this summer I've never exercised more(as an adult anyways) and still gained massive amnts of inches. 3 garbage bags full of clothes out the door since june of this year....I haven't been this big since I had my snap 3 years ago and started to exercise and eat proper....before that it was a 'see food' diet...I had fries for a snack for god sake!! Sorry...pity party over.

Cline....carbs are around 150/day...sometimes more. Obviously i'm still eating too much cuz (shocker) scale was a total disaster this morning, and inches. NO LOSS,,,in fact I gained 6 pounds in the past month. Zero loss in inches either, probable gain as I wasn't the one who measured last time. Uggggg.

whey gourmet....don't know if they sell it at gnc tho. Its really good and mixes well even with water.

Welp,,,that's a whole nother thread, because I cannot lose weight to save my life(err...lose inches). My lifts are doing pretty well tho...I mean, i'm not really feeling that my workouts are suffering...just the rest of my life.

37, 5'8", 180(but 30%+ BF....hence the low ish cals...I really want to get rid of fat) Meat is good ....and eggs....and bacon...and bacon...heh heh.

Hi everyone...thanks for all your replies and healthy debate. I just found my current 'feeling' odd because I did not have the 'carb flu' early on...ya cravings, but that's a whole other problem isn't it. Had a physical in summer and everything is totally normal..including thyroid. Doing crossfit 3x/week. I'm eating a lot....s**tloads of veg...macros are (on average) 1750 cal/day, 190 carb, 100 protein, 70 fat...so i'm eating a lot of carb...not low by any means. I just don't feel 'yahoo great!!! like I did when I first eliminated grain and ate only veg/fruit for carb. Just curious if anyone else had this issue.