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On 8/27/2018 at 8:10 AM, Echoceanic said:

I didn't hesitate asking about the details even if people here sometimes think that is a thing you shouldn't know for reasons that I don't get because of course you want to know the hours and how much you are going to get paid. 

I'm sorry what? People think you shouldn't know the details before you commit to something? I cannot even comprehend that.

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On 8/27/2018 at 2:10 AM, Echoceanic said:

 

Life. So as I assumed, going alone at the high school helped a lot with my feelings. That and talking it out in three separate places.

 

 

That's good... those feelings can be harrowing and very difficult to deal with. I'm glad you were able to work through it. 

 

On 8/27/2018 at 2:10 AM, Echoceanic said:

I didn't hesitate in telling her 'I didn't know you wanted me to or where you went i haven't been in this school before') instead of feeling awkward (though I did that too, but less).

 

 

 

Anxiety win here! It's really hard to feel confident or sure of yourself in these types of situations, especially with the way you felt about going to this school in the first place. This is seriously awesome! 

 

On 8/27/2018 at 2:10 AM, Echoceanic said:

 

In general I think that I've begrudgingly accepted that most people get stuck in their friendship circles and don't leave even if they don't like them. It's annyoing because it prevents me from becoming close friends with other people but oh well.

 

 

I think this is very true, but there are people that go outside of their circles. I have about three different circles I hang out in. I'm more extroverted and don't have much in the way of social anxiety or nervousness, so it's easy for me to just walk up to someone and start a conversation. That's not always the case for everyone. 

 

I'd say don't give up on finding close friends, because you're not alone. It's not impossible, just difficult. 

 

The way to make friends is to get out there and meet people. It's really hard for introverts to meet other introverts because of this. Not impossible though. 

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On 8/28/2018 at 10:29 AM, jonfirestar said:

I'm sorry what? People think you shouldn't know the details before you commit to something? I cannot even comprehend that.

 

I know right? Its like they get offended when I ask and it's ridiculous.

 

22 hours ago, RhiaWolfe said:

I think this is very true, but there are people that go outside of their circles. I have about three different circles I hang out in. I'm more extroverted and don't have much in the way of social anxiety or nervousness, so it's easy for me to just walk up to someone and start a conversation. That's not always the case for everyone. 

 

I'd say don't give up on finding close friends, because you're not alone. It's not impossible, just difficult. 

 

The way to make friends is to get out there and meet people. It's really hard for introverts to meet other introverts because of this. Not impossible though. 

 

The thing is when it comes to socialising I am pretty decent at it. what usually winds up happening is I meet people in class or work, they are pretty cool, we hang out while we worl/study together and then I never hear from them again. Even if they say they'll keep in touch and I do try. 

 

Oddly enough I can walk up and start a conversation, but I overthink it after. 

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On ‎8‎/‎27‎/‎2018 at 12:10 AM, Echoceanic said:

push ups - this is the problem. The best way I can describe them is that they are uncomfortable. The movement is awkward. I've been exercising for a year I know when a move is failing because I am not strong enough to do it. This is not that, I can handle the weight and move, but for some reason when I do push ups I can't even get to a 90 degree angle - I think I've done it once. It's like my arms and back don't know how to twist. It's annoying. I don't know how to fix this and I am thinking about quitting the exercise and finding something else to do.

Can you post a video? Maybe if we look at it, someone can notice something. I found that incline push ups helped me more with learning the movement than knee push ups

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1 minute ago, Elastigirl said:

Can you post a video? Maybe if we look at it, someone can notice something.

 

Can't post a video so it's something I need to figure out on my own. I have a feeling I am putting my elbows too far under my torso, they wind up tucked right next to my torso but from what I've seen you can also move them out a bit as long as you have them not flaring out at a 90 degree angle. 

 

2 minutes ago, Elastigirl said:

I found that incline push ups helped me more with learning the movement than knee push ups

 

I am not even bothering with knee push ups. Not only do they do nothing they are hell on my knees. I've been doing either regular ones or inclines but the form doesn't transfer that well from one to the other. So I've been ditching the inclines in favour of doing it on the ground. 

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You could also play a bit with the hand angle, maybe point the hands slightly out. And make sure you are keeping your body tight, think tight butt.:smile-new: Also, if you can't go down all the way, just go down as far as you can. Or if you are frustrated, you could just like you said, stop doing them for a bit, and do another pushing exercise, and then come back to them later

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15 minutes ago, Elastigirl said:

You could also play a bit with the hand angle, maybe point the hands slightly out. And make sure you are keeping your body tight, think tight butt.:smile-new: Also, if you can't go down all the way, just go down as far as you can. Or if you are frustrated, you could just like you said, stop doing them for a bit, and do another pushing exercise, and then come back to them later

 

Yeah I'll try the hand thing too. Are they supposed to be right under your shoulders or next to them? I keep seeing different ideas on this. I know wide hand placement is a thing.

I'm focusing on form, can't even go down that much. But yeah it is annoying. 

I need to add some exercises for arm strength really.  Whatever it winds up being it will be either body weight or a high rep low weight cause the only weights I have are two 4 pound ones.

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Elastigirl covered most things so I'll mostly just agree with what she said! 

 

17 minutes ago, Echoceanic said:

I have a feeling I am putting my elbows too far under my torso, they wind up tucked right next to my torso but from what I've seen you can also move them out a bit as long as you have them not flaring out at a 90 degree angle. 

 

The best way I've heard of to get the arm position right is to try to make yourself arrow shaped. So if you were looking down on yourself from above, your body would be straight and your arms would be slightly out to the side, but not excessively flared out. Everyone has a different range of mobility so a position that works for one person may not work for someone else. 

 

There is such a thing as negative push ups that might work as a progression between incline push ups and full push ups. Get in the full push up position and do the downward part in a slow, controlled motion. When you get to the bottom, drop your knees to the ground and push yourself back up.

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3 minutes ago, Charlie_Quinn said:

The best way I've heard of to get the arm position right is to try to make yourself arrow shaped.

 

See, when you see me from above I am flat, with the elbows fully glued to my sides. Now I get why it feels awkward. 

 

Yeah there is also doing it from reverse - dropping on the ground and pushing yourself up. 

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51 minutes ago, Echoceanic said:

See, when you see me from above I am flat, with the elbows fully glued to my sides. Now I get why it feels awkward. 

 

 

It's certainly not exact but it should be more like 45 degrees between your body and your elbows so. The idea is to stack your arms under your shoulders because it's more structurally sound so your not putting excessive force on your joints but the exact positioning isn't as important because everyone is slightly different. You can actually really hurt yourself from doing them incorrectly so do be careful (speaking from experience and I avoid wide and narrow variations because of it). It's probably also worth trying off of an incline to get your form correct that way you can practice the movement without worrying about the weight. 

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1 hour ago, jonfirestar said:

It's probably also worth trying off of an incline to get your form correct that way you can practice the movement without worrying about the weight. 

 

The thing is I do inclines but then I drop down and my body gets confused. So I am learning it twice basically for some weird reason. :D 

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44 minutes ago, Echoceanic said:

The thing is I do inclines but then I drop down and my body gets confused. So I am learning it twice basically for some weird reason. :D 

 

You could try a lower incline. A chair or a step and lower it until you are in place.

 

However, I've got very little in the way of coordination and intuitively learn nothing physical so the way I need to do things is to figure out what my body is meant to be doing intellectually and then work out what I need to do in order to get it to do that. For push ups you might find it easier to begin in the down position with your hands under your shoulders and your arms flared about 45 degrees from your body. If you are unable to push up from a dead stop (it takes more strength to do it that way) then use your knees until you are in the plank position and go from there. There is also nothing wrong with doing pushups on your knees or with your knees on the floor to lighten the load while you learn form. Although given what you've said if you do try it I'd suggest the knees down 'half pushup' form because it more closely mimics the full pushup. 

 

Also don't be afraid to shift your position if it doesn't feel right. It usually takes me at least 1 rep before I'm happy with my hand position. 

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3 minutes ago, jonfirestar said:

However, I've got very little in the way of coordination and intuitively learn nothing physical so the way I need to do things is to figure out what my body is meant to be doing intellectually and then work out what I need to do in order to get it to do that.

 

See for me I need to have an easy reference form in my head and then I can place myself pretty well. I've tried the lower incline but had to compensate because of the type of thing I was leaning on so it didn't really do much. My knees bruise super easily (skin s weird) so I don't do anything like that.

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Week three Recap: 

 

Oh boy this week, has been exhausting. And fun too.

 

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Me vs anxiety this week.

 

I celebrated my best friend's birthday, I am close to finishing the preparations for the rewrite of my book, and I am GETTING A PC (which in my case meant a lot of research to make sure I'm getting a good one). It's technically my birthday present to myself, I am tried of doing all of my work hunched over a laptop. That and school and this week has been a bit of a high stress situation. Extra thing is that my sleep schedule has been wonky because of the weather (can it get cooler already) and me staying up, and just general restless sleep. 

 

"Ace the SATs" goal three chapters down and right now researching something  need explained. I will be upping this after the computer gets here, it kinda derailed my plan for this. I might need to take one exam this month instead of two just because of stress (even my face hurts because of it - yay for stress acne).

 

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"Angel Investigations, we help the hopeless" Said sleep problems have been a bit too much for me (this is a theme this challenge but I am focusing on me and not the things I need to do). Should get better as the weather evens out. The trackers are a way of life so I am not basing my success on how good I get them but on the harder thing - me doing them without stress.

 

"The crossbow" goal - Better than last time - one and a half rather than just once. Below is what I did yesterday:

Spoiler

Piece one/warm up:

4 sets of Athena's playbook day 9 2 min break between each

 

Piece two: all in a row

1 min elbow plank

shoulder press (4 pounds each hand) 10

bicep curl (both at once, same weights) 20

elbow to knee crunches 2x20

downward dog knee movements (bring knee to chest and then each elbow) 8 each leg

 

Piece three: all in a row with a longer break at the end

elbow plank 1 min

shoulder press 10 

bicep curl 20

holding the weight above head lowering to neck from behind (I have no idea what this is called but it's fun) 20

 

stretch

 

A little pain at the back of my elbows today, not a lot. Same with my thighs and quads specifically. 

 

The Evolution - will update at the end

 

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Now, for the main event.. the Cordy quests:

  1. Dennis the ghost quest - I am no longer annoyed and stress, so that's good. Still not on top of things and it will be hard to be.
  2. I think it, I say it, it's my way quest - I'm thinking of keeping this quest up even later cause I like it. It's cool.
  3. Well, duh/I'm not a sheep quest - This is working out pretty well. I am awesome. 
  4. You didn't just hurt me, you gave away my clothes quest - Counter was done last week, this week was computer time so I was focusing on that.

 

All in all I am getting better at relaxing and calming and prioritising. Next move will be me getting more into the groove, because yeah I need to actually do more. These two weeks have not been the great progress I need now. Two days left of this week and I am planning on finishing the computer thing (if they call me tomorrow, it might be Monday or even Tuesday) or just general catching up on things. But mentally I'm far better than I've ever been. And it's amazing.

 

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Ooooo CONGRATS on the PC!!  I love my laptop but you're totally right, the hunching is the worst, and it's just not the same as having a PC.... much more comfy and relaxing, and I feel like it's easier to focus using my PC 'cause I can spend more time here and be comfy.

 

Also YESSSS FOR A COOPERATING BRAIN!!!! :DDDD Isn't that the best ever?!!?

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3 minutes ago, shaar said:

Ooooo CONGRATS on the PC!!  I love my laptop but you're totally right, the hunching is the worst, and it's just not the same as having a PC.... much more comfy and relaxing, and I feel like it's easier to focus using my PC 'cause I can spend more time here and be comfy.

 

And I no longer need to squint at the damn screen, cause you know, monitor. Now I just need to wait for them to deliver it which is now less stressful oddly enough (usually this is the part I get really anxious). I'm just glad I am able to do this now.

 

5 minutes ago, shaar said:

Also YESSSS FOR A COOPERATING BRAIN!!!! :DDDD Isn't that the best ever?!!?

 

I KNOW!!!! I am under stress but I am HANDLING IT. Though it's still super hot and boooo. Can it get autumn-ish already?

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Update: Echo might have figured out a basic pattern.

 

I think I figured out how to have my cake and eat it too - have a routine that I can change on the fly. A basic pattern of 4 exercises and 3 sets. Intercepted with the I can use Athena's Playbook as an addition, so if i do it, I'll either do 1 or 2 sets in addition but also I might not depending on how hard it is. I do not know if I warm up enough honestly, the below is enough to get my heart racing. I do stretch enough now so yay.

 

warm up: 15 inclines, 15 squats, 30 high knees, arm and leg movements/swing

 

3 sets, a few min break in between (not really counted):

donkey kick - 30 each X 3

plank - 1,40 min; 46 sec; 50 sec

shoulder press - 15+5; 15 X 2

kettlebell swing (4 kg - 8 pounds) - 20 X 3

 

yoga stretching, about the length of a Nine Inch Nail song.

 

I liked this exercise, it relieved some of my anxiety while waiting for the PC stil. Things have been pretty okay on other fronts, still feel like I want to sleep a lot.

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I love a workout that you can switch up depending on how you're feeling.  Ranger adaptability - GO!! :)

 

How's your weather??

 

It's still stupid hot and humid here.... but -should- break by Friday.  WE NEED MORE FALL! ;_;

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On 9/5/2018 at 1:48 AM, Xena said:

This sounds great, and I think the warmup is appropriate.

 

On 9/5/2018 at 12:04 PM, jonfirestar said:

That workout template looks really good. 

 

21 hours ago, shaar said:

I love a workout that you can switch up depending on how you're feeling.  Ranger adaptability - GO!! :)

 

Thanks guys. I realised I do best with fast switching between exercises, but only doing a few at a time or I get too overwhelmed. And this should be good for figuring out muscle groups.

 

21 hours ago, shaar said:

How's your weather??

 

It's still stupid hot and humid here.... but -should- break by Friday.  WE NEED MORE FALL! ;_;

 

I'm in the centre of humid continental climate here,  thank god for the cold wind or you can't go out after 10 am without melting. I wish we have fall this year and it doesn't just throw us in snow-less winter, I love fall weather. 

 

 

Oh, Oh, OH By the way, the PC IS HERE! 

 

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Picked it up, cabbed it home (no delivery sadly the dude was alone but it wasn't a problem) and now I need to figure out where to put it and install everything. :D 

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1 hour ago, Echoceanic said:

Thanks guys. I realised I do best with fast switching between exercises, but only doing a few at a time or I get too overwhelmed. And this should be good for figuring out muscle groups.

 

Yep, I favour that form myself. If you can run through it fast enough it'll act as metabolic conditioning too. 

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7 hours ago, jonfirestar said:

Yep, I favour that form myself. If you can run through it fast enough it'll act as metabolic conditioning too. 

 

And it diminishes the least favourite thing about exercise for me, rest times. It is far easier to let myself rest for 3 X 2 minutes. 

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Update: The computer is here and set up... mostly.

 

I am wiped. After an entire day of figuring out internet (had to go out and buy an Ethernet cable) the set up, where to put the PC to protect it from dust (and my shedding) and downloading everything I need, and using my phone to move all my files from the laptop to this computer. Will need to get used to this set up posture wise.

I had a bit of an anger/frustration surge cause I had internet problems and this has been a continuous problem for me so I yelled a bit. My mouse and keyboard USB cords are short (and they barely fit in the space designed for them) so I need to extend them but it didn't piss me off as much as it did. I did calm down after I fixed it. And now I had problems with it again... sigh I am so annoyed.

 

Remember how I said waiting didn't fill me with that much anxiety? Yeah that was just the first day I was an anxiety ridden ball after that. I hate waiting when the only thing I know is 'it will happen eventually'. It is my discomfort because of lack of control and that happens because historically, bad things happen when I am not in control. And because I constantly am waiting on things to go wrong. 

 

I just need to relax. Calm down. If I get up at 7 am tomorrow I will go for a walk first thing (will need to go to bed right the heck now if that is going to happen). Will take my headphones but not put them in right away. I need to be alone with my head while not thinking much cause it's the hardest for me. Reducing stressors tomorrow so I can focus. Will insert things as I see fit. This is done just so I can keep working but diminish burn out.

 

Taking one exam, the first one I need to pass has a book from the freaking 1950s and is full of info that is dated, and that is hard to learn (and then to forget cause I know better than this). Also I am freaking rusty. Starting on the book (3rd draft wohoo) will be a thing that will help. I've been so stressed about it, especially now that I only have that to do.

 

It's still in the high 80s in Fahrenheit here during the days and I am gonna be glad when it gets colder.

 

Next challenge will be fun because my birthday falls in it! ^_^ I don't usually do anything too special for it but I plan on having a day that is fun. Craving greenery. So glad I have plants. Should go to the park. Though my mom's plant died, and the cacti in general have been a bit ehhh - I might need to not water them. 

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1 hour ago, Echoceanic said:

My mouse and keyboard USB cords are short (and they barely fit in the space designed for them) so I need to extend them

 

That kind of stuff drives me crazy! Good job getting it mostly set up.

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