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Well hello guys.

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I think I'm finally at a place where I can handle a challenge here. I have no idea how this will go because I am just testing the waters, but I figured this is the best time to start, as this challenge fits with the way I track things. Especially because I'm beginning later than everyone.

I left the forums in April partly because I was feeling frustrated with the way I used this forum, and the way I seemed to be running in place with it. Another reason was that I was simply too hard on myself and my view on things needed to shift a lot in order for me to not use this place to support the bad habits: focusing on the bad over the good, viewing myself as 'in progress' instead of a full person that does things, not knowing exactly how much I wanted to share about myself etc. So lets see if i have it figured out.

 

Welcome to the listen challenge.

 

  • Listen to your body: and by this I mean both physically (don't overexercise, if something hurts deal with it) and nutrition-wise. I get into habits (like buying popcorn and eating it right away even though it will make me feel sick and it's way better to leave it for when I actually want to eat it, or realising I have nothing to eat for breakfast because I forgot to shop) that are bad for me. So, yeah, intuitive eating: varied foods that make you feel good afterwards - this is something I only need to make a few tweaks to, not a big problem. I am keeping a food journal for this reason. Not dieting, not counting calories. I also want to get out of the whole "I could stand to go up a few pounds" mindset that everyone around me has had pretty much my whole life. I don't diet and have a consistent weight that hasn't changed at all over the years, clearly a sign I am doing right nutrition-wise.
  • Listen to your mind: mental health - reducing stress, reducing self-critical thoughts, confidence etc. I used to have this clear picture in my head of what type of person I wanted to be, something I referred to as "an adult with a capital A", and that idea is super harmful, because it not only doesn't account for natural life fluctuations, but it also makes you feel bad about yourself when that is not needed. You can strive to improve without thinking you're at step one or lower.
  • Listen to your needs: am I having a low energy week, do I need quiet or socialisation, do I need to take a break from social media, am I swamped with chores and little things I should do but I just haven't and the result is that they loom over my head constantly? Adjust and take care of yourself. The void (that is a PMS symptom) you can handle by simply lowering your expectations during those days, thus avoiding falling in that place that makes you feel incredibly crappy (because I will always feel better when I do things). Also, doing nothing for a day is fine.
  • Listen to your obligations: and use them to balance with your needs.

 

That is gonna be it for now. See ya!

 

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Welcome back! I like your challenge. Also loving that you are working at getting rid of the"I could lose a few pounds" mindset. It is so common among women, and I think it just  produces constant stress on us.

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12 minutes ago, Elastigirl said:

Welcome back! I like your challenge. Also loving that you are working at getting rid of the"I could lose a few pounds" mindset. It is so common among women, and I think it just  produces constant stress on us.

 

Thanks for the welcome. And for alerting me to the typo in my post. I actually had issues with the opposite mindset - people kept telling me I need to gain weight, or assume I'm on a strict diet, or look at me weirdly when I said I exercised. I kept finding myself having to justify my body and that mindset has persisted over the years and I don't want it anymore. I am still super sensitive when people mention my weight or food options., especially with that tone.

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17 minutes ago, Terra said:

Welcome back!  I love your challenge because its is so very focused on your asking your body what it needs.  That is a HUGE thing that most humans don't know how to do.   

 

Thanks!

Feeling good is one of my most consistent goals in life, and I want to enjoy the things I do. I am usually good at this - I have been honing this skill for a while now. I just haven't figured out responses for everything yet, cause while some are simple, some can have multiple factors, some of which you can't control. 

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1 hour ago, Echoceanic said:

 

Thanks for the welcome. And for alerting me to the typo in my post. I actually had issues with the opposite mindset - people kept telling me I need to gain weight, or assume I'm on a strict diet, or look at me weirdly when I said I exercised. I kept finding myself having to justify my body and that mindset has persisted over the years and I don't want it anymore. I am still super sensitive when people mention my weight or food options., especially with that tone.

Seems like no matter what weight we are , there is somebody telling us (or we tell ourself) that it is not right.  Also my husband has this stare down he gives people when they say something he thinks is pushy or rude, and I am trying to perfect it myself.Because sometimes the best response is no response at all 

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25 minutes ago, Elastigirl said:

Seems like no matter what weight we are , there is somebody telling us (or we tell ourself) that it is not right.

 

Yup. No one is safe. It came to the point where I just went into instant 'pissed' mode whenever someone mentioned my weight. The comments have died down the older I've gotten, so yay!

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2 minutes ago, Salinger said:

ECHO Woooooo so glad you are back!!

 

Missed you <3 

 

Great goals, and of course ill be following along and cheering you on xxx

 

So good to see you're still here! Thanks for following along.

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Let's talk.

 

Since I've been away for a while I figure it's a good idea to make a short catch up post.

Fitness-wise, I am progressing well. Can do a push up, working on and off on my headstand, and am still working out from home with mostly bodyweight. Due to this I use a lot of youtube videos - Yoga with Adrienne and Fitness Blender are one of my favourites (I also use darebee a lot). The Fitness Marshal is good too, might make me not hate cardio, and it helps with coordination, but haven't used it for long. Tried blogilates but I noticed it made me hate exercise - it was the attitude, the amount of modification I had to do and just in general it didn't feel good. Ran once, and I hadn't lost any endurance - and I also didn't get shin pain, so yay for good footwear.

Mentally I've been self-aware and not letting things sneak up on me. I also am on a path of recognising my abilities and not letting my brain ruin them by thinking.

I should be done with year three of my studies this year. Which means I'm on track to graduate in August.

So, that's it.

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Glad to see you back Echo. I love your goals. I also aspire to listen to my body more. 

 

23 hours ago, Elastigirl said:

Seems like no matter what weight we are , there is somebody telling us (or we tell ourself) that it is not right.  Also my husband has this stare down he gives people when they say something he thinks is pushy or rude, and I am trying to perfect it myself.Because sometimes the best response is no response at all 

When you do, please teach it to us!

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Hello.

Sooo... I kinda had nothing to say so I didn't write here at all. I don't think I have a lot now either, but I have time, so I'm gonna use it.

 

1st - 3rd November 

Exercise days - 2 - crow practise and Spartan Trials day 1 from darebee. I like that program and I can do level 1 with ease on normal days so I am gonna see if I can do it more often but i am not sure every day is in the cards. Ideally I'd do it when I can and do yoga or mediation when I can't. 

Didn't have any issues I needed to talk about or do something about, all in all a good start.

 

4th - today

Exercise days - none aside from light dancing that I count as 'I moved'. Lost three days to the most painful time of month I've had in a while - I hope today is the last day of it at least, and I'm preparing for that - stayed up one night and slept through the rest of the days. I feel bad about it but in a 'I didn't want this to happen' not in a 'I should have done more' way so that is fine. 

Aside from that I did everything I couldn't postpone on time and know where I dropped the ball and where I just think I dropped it. Nutrition has been as good as it can be while sleeping for 14+hours. Same with the mental part.

I did forget my trackers so I am getting on top of that next week. I also have my exam date early - apparently my school decided to get organised so yay. 

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Hope now that shark week is over next week has you feeling better.

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33 minutes ago, Elastigirl said:

Hope now that shark week is over next week has you feeling better.

 

It sure made me appreciate my usual light week with day one being a bitch and day two being general grumpiness and avoiding physical strain like the plague.

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4 hours ago, Salinger said:

Sending you love Echo xx

 

Thanks Sal! I'm better now, so phew :D

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Update.

10th - today

I have slowly been getting back on track from the three days of sleep, hitting different milestones every day. 

Exercise days - 2 Spartan trials. I wanted to do more but I have been getting in a good groove of exercising every other day and I want to keep at it. Today I didn't cause for some reason my lower back hurts, especially when I bend over to pick something up? Weird cause I didn't do any lifting, but maybe I slept weird. It's not DOMS but that weird sharp crick-like pain. Before that it was a small twinge in my left hip that I thought I stretched out but I guess it migrated.

Meditation has fallen down by the wayside, as well as the computer-time but I am working on other stuff. I can more easily fit in meditation when I have a consistent wake up time.

I am getting better at not beating myself up and looking at the big picture, especially recognising when I'm nitpicking in a 'I will never be happy' way and stopping it.

Currently focused on progress with my studies, a story I'm writing and other general life stuff that are going pretty well, actually (hope I'm not jinxing myself). If I do this right I can finish year three, this story, and send a beta gig off by the end of this year. This is as much of a goal as it is a restriction - means I am not forcing myself to take more exams, or write more or take more beta gigs. Cause I do that thing where I forget I need a break and say yes before thinking because of course I want to do new things.

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I find that often my hip will hurt, and it will migrate to my back or vise versa . Hope yours gets better quickly I swear by walking as the magic  healing spell for backs

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34 minutes ago, Salinger said:

Have you said what you are studying? Sorry if i missed it!

 

Hi Sal.

I've said it, but it was in an old challenge so no wonder you can't find it. I'm studying to be a pharmacy technician.

And yeah this weekend has been pretty good so far. I think the end of November will be pretty good for me.

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5 minutes ago, Echoceanic said:

 

Hi Sal.

I've said it, but it was in an old challenge so no wonder you can't find it. I'm studying to be a pharmacy technician.

And yeah this weekend has been pretty good so far. I think the end of November will be pretty good for me.

 

oooh cool! are you enjoying it?

 

im so glad you are having a good weekend xx

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47 minutes ago, Salinger said:

oooh cool! are you enjoying it?

 

Yup, so far it has been a great experience and progressing very rapidly.

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Finally, an update.

 

I seem to not be using this a lot and it kinda bothers me because it feels like a waste.

 

Exercise: I finally managed to implement my 'stretch when you don't feel like or can't exercise a lot'. I also saw progress! I was doing an ab focused day from the Spartan Trials and while I usually can only do a level one before my body can't take it (feeling a lot of ab burn makes it tough to breathe for me) this time it was... fine. I could have done level two with no issues. I realised this after I was done however, but next time... 

Mental: Was really anxious about this exam, but that was because I didn't spend that much time on it, so it made me feel weird. Positive side - I can now take the bus and not have a single anxious 'did I miss my stop/am I on the wrong bus' thought. I also feel a lot stronger mentally these days. I am in control of what I say and am not sitting in the back of my head panicking while my mouth runs on, I am a lot more certain about what I want and about my abilities, and I beat myself up a lot less. And managed to have a civilised conversation with an old classmate without feeling absolutely horrible afterwards (we met randomly).

I have also accepted that my physical appearance (and liking said appearance) is important to me (even though I still have some rather silly issues with the way I look that I'm trying to tackle) and while before I felt weird for paying so much attention to it, now I just accept it and would rather spend time on it than not, because it makes me feel good and confident. I know I can't like every single thing about myself but I can work towards feeling neutrally about them instead of negatively. I had a weird fear of being vain before that was unfounded.

 

I think that's it for now?

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Sounds like lots of good progress.  I hear you on the fear of being vain. I struggled with that too. But, when I spend time on looking put together, then I feel much more confident in  interactions with people

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