spezzy Posted November 23, 2010 Report Share Posted November 23, 2010 Whew, I have 2 days to come up with something, then!Deiter, another thought for you - jump up, and cound slowly while you hold yourself up in the top position. When you can't take it any more, sloooowly lower yourself down, rest a bit, then do it again. A week or two of doing that every day, (I'm told) you'll be able to manage a pull-up. I'm attempting to try it myself. Am up to 3x8 second holds, but chin is not above the bar or I'd brain myself on my doorway. Bar is more level with my nose. Still, shall let you know!i totally second this method, though i think a week or two is a little optimistic Spezzy, the Arcane Skirmisher Chaotic Good Quarter Elf Slayer/Magus STR: 21 / DEX: 17 / CON: 14 / INT: 15 / CHA 15 Current Challenge: Exploring North of The Wall - Instagram “There's only one rule that I know of, babies—God damn it, you've got to be kind.” Link to post
MMyers Posted November 23, 2010 Report Share Posted November 23, 2010 Whew, I have 2 days to come up with something, then!Deiter, another thought for you - jump up, and cound slowly while you hold yourself up in the top position. When you can't take it any more, sloooowly lower yourself down, rest a bit, then do it again. A week or two of doing that every day, (I'm told) you'll be able to manage a pull-up. I'm attempting to try it myself. Am up to 3x8 second holds, but chin is not above the bar or I'd brain myself on my doorway. Bar is more level with my nose. Still, shall let you know!i totally second this method, though i think a week or two is a little optimistic You can always speed up this process. What got me to my first full one was a week of negatives with a 20 pound vest. Link to post
spezzy Posted November 23, 2010 Report Share Posted November 23, 2010 Whew, I have 2 days to come up with something, then!Deiter, another thought for you - jump up, and cound slowly while you hold yourself up in the top position. When you can't take it any more, sloooowly lower yourself down, rest a bit, then do it again. A week or two of doing that every day, (I'm told) you'll be able to manage a pull-up. I'm attempting to try it myself. Am up to 3x8 second holds, but chin is not above the bar or I'd brain myself on my doorway. Bar is more level with my nose. Still, shall let you know!i totally second this method, though i think a week or two is a little optimistic You can always speed up this process. What got me to my first full one was a week of negatives with a 20 pound vest.weighted... negatives?as crazy as it sounds, it may just work. maybe i'll try this tomorrow, since its "look like a fool trying to do chinups on the smith machine" day anyways Spezzy, the Arcane Skirmisher Chaotic Good Quarter Elf Slayer/Magus STR: 21 / DEX: 17 / CON: 14 / INT: 15 / CHA 15 Current Challenge: Exploring North of The Wall - Instagram “There's only one rule that I know of, babies—God damn it, you've got to be kind.” Link to post
Alethea Posted November 23, 2010 Author Report Share Posted November 23, 2010 Look-Like-A-Fool Days are my favorite kind of days. Takes the pressure of trying to be normal off. "Let another say. 'Perhaps the worst will not happen.' You yourself must say. 'Well, what if it does happen? Let us see who wins!' ". - Seneca, 63 AD "There is no better way to fight weakness than with strength." - Henry Rollins Link to post
MMyers Posted November 23, 2010 Report Share Posted November 23, 2010 weighted... negatives?as crazy as it sounds, it may just work. maybe i'll try this tomorrow, since its "look like a fool trying to do chinups on the smith machine" day anyways Yeah, since you can handle more weight on the negative, that means getting the first full repetition will still be a pain just doing regular negatives, so adding weight balances it out when you go up on a regular repetition, and gives you the ability to control the negative portion of the Chin-Up a lot easier.And yes, I spend too much time thinking about this stuff. Link to post
deiter Posted November 23, 2010 Report Share Posted November 23, 2010 Well since you're all experts on the subject....do chin-ups or pull-ups tend to be easier? I'm thinking chin-ups for some reason. I bet weighted negatives would get you to a chin-up faster, but I'll see if I can even handle regular negatives first. Although I really do want to invest in a weighted vest for running/rucking so I can do my army training properly. Nov. 25 - Gobble Gobble Gobble 4-miler Dec. 19 - Jingle Bell 5k Ense petit placidam sub libertate quietem Link to post
LynnyLee Posted November 23, 2010 Report Share Posted November 23, 2010 I took the opportunity to try out the assisted dip/chin up contraption and figured out how much weight I have to use in order to actually accomplish both with good formThere's one of those machines at my gym too. I really do need to get on it. Since I injured my shoulder a few years ago doing pull-ups has not happened without pain. Maybe I can build it back up. Here's to both of us getting some upper body strength. Link to post
spezzy Posted November 23, 2010 Report Share Posted November 23, 2010 Well since you're all experts on the subject....do chin-ups or pull-ups tend to be easier? I'm thinking chin-ups for some reason.I bet weighted negatives would get you to a chin-up faster, but I'll see if I can even handle regular negatives first. Although I really do want to invest in a weighted vest for running/rucking so I can do my army training properly.chinups are easier. definitely. Spezzy, the Arcane Skirmisher Chaotic Good Quarter Elf Slayer/Magus STR: 21 / DEX: 17 / CON: 14 / INT: 15 / CHA 15 Current Challenge: Exploring North of The Wall - Instagram “There's only one rule that I know of, babies—God damn it, you've got to be kind.” Link to post
deiter Posted November 23, 2010 Report Share Posted November 23, 2010 I took the opportunity to try out the assisted dip/chin up contraption and figured out how much weight I have to use in order to actually accomplish both with good formThere's one of those machines at my gym too. I really do need to get on it. Since I injured my shoulder a few years ago doing pull-ups has not happened without pain. Maybe I can build it back up. Here's to both of us getting some upper body strength.yea do it! :mrgreen: Nov. 25 - Gobble Gobble Gobble 4-miler Dec. 19 - Jingle Bell 5k Ense petit placidam sub libertate quietem Link to post
deiter Posted November 23, 2010 Report Share Posted November 23, 2010 chinups are easier. definitely.Then I guess those will come first! Nov. 25 - Gobble Gobble Gobble 4-miler Dec. 19 - Jingle Bell 5k Ense petit placidam sub libertate quietem Link to post
Carsomyr Posted November 23, 2010 Report Share Posted November 23, 2010 Did my first (almost) handstand today! Almost because I still had one foot touching the wall to help keep balance. Felt really awesome, and is something I would not even have considered remotely possible a few months ago. Half-Ogre Monk InitiateLevel 0My challenges : Level 1 Challenge Life before death, strength before weakness, journey before destination - Way of Kings Link to post
MMyers Posted November 23, 2010 Report Share Posted November 23, 2010 chinups are easier. definitely.Then I guess those will come first!Absolutely Chin-Ups. However, I started with Chin-Ups, and after a month I started Pull-Up Negatives. It made a big difference going from the deadhang to the halfway up part for me of the Chin-Up. Link to post
KungfuTarzanJesus Posted November 23, 2010 Report Share Posted November 23, 2010 It seems to depend on the person. They each use slightly different muscles, so it depends on your build. I got very good at wide-gripped pullups and chinups, but then Carjack pointed out that regular narrow-gripped pullups do more for many areas, and those kicked my butt relatively quickly. Echoing what everyone here is saying, negatives definitely work. I wasn't originally able to do any of this and negatives was how I started. Link to post
ormaybemidgets Posted November 23, 2010 Report Share Posted November 23, 2010 Oh noes, did not see this thread until today! Link to post
halftruths Posted November 24, 2010 Report Share Posted November 24, 2010 Oh noes, did not see this thread until today! Likewise! Ah well, this would have been a bad week to try new stuff anyway - too much going on!! Link to post
Alethea Posted November 24, 2010 Author Report Share Posted November 24, 2010 Well, I really wanted to do an activity but Events Conspired Against Me and that didn't happen. Mental note: find less flakey friends. I DID, however, a) cook a full ham with bone and everything for the first time, and it turned out awesome, cook butternut squash and it turned out awesome, and c) cooked stewed spiced apples, and they turned out awesome. Man, that was an awesome meal. And I'm now swimming in ham (not literally), which is a good place to be. *sing* Ham in the morning, ham in the evening, ham at supper time.... "Let another say. 'Perhaps the worst will not happen.' You yourself must say. 'Well, what if it does happen? Let us see who wins!' ". - Seneca, 63 AD "There is no better way to fight weakness than with strength." - Henry Rollins Link to post
spacecoyote Posted November 24, 2010 Report Share Posted November 24, 2010 And I'm now swimming in ham (not literally)That's a shame...ham is a great exfoliant; it really opens up the pores. Plus any time you sweat you get a waft of that rich, meaty aroma. Mmmm....ham sweat. Link to post
ormaybemidgets Posted November 25, 2010 Report Share Posted November 25, 2010 *sing* Ham in the morning, ham in the evening, ham at supper time....You're a star, you're on top, somebody bring you some haaaaaaaaaaaam! Link to post
mgrif99 Posted November 26, 2010 Report Share Posted November 26, 2010 Mental note: find less flakey friends.haha, story of my life!!! :shock: better friends make a HUGE difference! ~Mel ••• Starbuck is my hero ••• 30-Day Paleo Challenge Extravaganza!! ~~ Mel's Workout Log ~~ Online Measurements ~~ Online Weight Log ~~ twitter Link to post
spezzy Posted November 28, 2010 Report Share Posted November 28, 2010 RESULTS! mgrif99 - warrior dash alr - upside down crunches Dawsy - powerclean spezzy - made stew, ate bone marrow LynnyLee - resistance bands, exercise improv deiter - assisted dip machine spacecoyote - made butternut squash Carsomyr - handstands Alethea - cooked ham, squash, and apples prefect42 - gym at night when busy anyone else take part? Spezzy, the Arcane Skirmisher Chaotic Good Quarter Elf Slayer/Magus STR: 21 / DEX: 17 / CON: 14 / INT: 15 / CHA 15 Current Challenge: Exploring North of The Wall - Instagram “There's only one rule that I know of, babies—God damn it, you've got to be kind.” Link to post
Oogiem Posted December 4, 2010 Report Share Posted December 4, 2010 Yes, forgot to post :oops: I got some agave sweetener to see if I liked it in coffee. Result, acceptable. I normally use Splenda. I've got a lot of that on hand to use up and will then give the agave a good try. Oogie McGuire Black Sheep Shepherdess STR 4.25 | DEX 4.5 | STA 3.75 | CON 3 | WIS 4.75 | CHA 1 Link to post
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