Kishi Posted January 24 Report Share Posted January 24 Here's hoping you got the rest you needed. 1 Quote Work like a farmer, train like an athlete, fight like a soldier. 2 Tim. 2:3-6 BATTLE! Link to comment
sarakingdom Posted January 24 Author Report Share Posted January 24 Week 4 Day 2 I'm still stalled on fun. I am not making time for fun. Also, I am cold. Ish. I need to wrap up. Challenge tasks: Spend an hour doing something fun: Make something pretty, fun, or festive: MANY HOT COCOA (I shared) Bonus making: a few rows of a bigger pepeppermint-swirl crochet project Drink 4 liters with electrolytes: 2/4 Exercise breaks: 0 Meditation breaks: 0 Support tasks: Make a warm nest Wear extra warm clothes Fix evening routine timers Winter goals: Hibernate (in progress) Break out the coziest clothes (in progress) Sled with a yeti On the subject of yeti, does one hook up with Russian Ukrainian Santas by posting on Tinslr? 2 2 Quote I felt like I could run forever, like I could smell the wind and feel the grass under my feet, and just run forever. Current Challenge: #24 - Mrs. Cosmopolite Challenge Past: #1, #2, #3, #4, #5, #6, #7, #8, #9, #10, #11a & #11b, #12, #13, #14, #15, #16, #17, #18, #19, #20, #21, #22, #23 Link to comment
sarakingdom Posted January 25 Author Report Share Posted January 25 I think I must be really tired, cuz I'm cranky and I don't wanna, and I'm having start-of-challenge levels of existential despair. 2 Quote I felt like I could run forever, like I could smell the wind and feel the grass under my feet, and just run forever. Current Challenge: #24 - Mrs. Cosmopolite Challenge Past: #1, #2, #3, #4, #5, #6, #7, #8, #9, #10, #11a & #11b, #12, #13, #14, #15, #16, #17, #18, #19, #20, #21, #22, #23 Link to comment
sarakingdom Posted January 25 Author Report Share Posted January 25 Week 4 Day 3 Challenge tasks: Spend an hour doing something fun: Make something pretty, fun, or festive: I made a fancy lunch with lots of garlic and herbs and olive oil. I aspire to be as cool as this breakfast. Bonus making: a few rows of a bigger pepeppermint-swirl crochet project Drink 4 liters with electrolytes: 2.5/4 Exercise breaks: 1 Meditation breaks: 1 Support tasks: Make a warm nest Fix evening routine timers Bedside snack stash I'm gonna force the fun issue today. I will schedule half an hour of fun into my day. That way, I will know how long it is and everything. ENFORCED FUN. YouTube has been recommending me some podcasts, and reminding me that I'm aiming for a slow transition to therapeutic keto to give it a test. (Apart from my missing pile of forbidden chocolate, those are the basic food cravings I've been getting, so it's probably time.) One of those podcasts is going through hormonal reasons for poor sleep that are caused by not enough fat in the diet (by the liberal fat standards of this corner of dietary wisdom), and I have poor sleep and high stress levels, so I will follow their advice and put bedtime snacks out. I'm not sure what variety yet. (They probably mean, like, butter. How the hell do I keep a stash of butter?) . . . (Answer: In the form of 35% discs of white chocolate, I think. I will devise a recipe. There will be sprinkles. It will be festive. Still sounds a little melty, but the cocoa butter will help. And I have crackers at the moment, so there's that.) Enforced fun. What could possibly go wrong. 3 Quote I felt like I could run forever, like I could smell the wind and feel the grass under my feet, and just run forever. Current Challenge: #24 - Mrs. Cosmopolite Challenge Past: #1, #2, #3, #4, #5, #6, #7, #8, #9, #10, #11a & #11b, #12, #13, #14, #15, #16, #17, #18, #19, #20, #21, #22, #23 Link to comment
sarakingdom Posted January 25 Author Report Share Posted January 25 Lunch for lazy people: Let's say you're in the mood for garlic. Preferably nice roasted garlic, infusing some olive oil with its goodness. Let's say you also have the better part of a wheel of queso fresco that really needs using up. So first you whack on the oven at 375F. Then you slice the chunk of queso fresco in half the flat way and lay it in a glass dish. Chop up a fresh tomato, and slice four large cloves of garlic into large lengthwise slices. You are a peasant. Sprinkle them over the cheese. One meal's worth of garlic. Dig into the fridge, and cube up some leftover cooked chicken breast, if you have it. Sprinkle that into the dish. Find some herbs like oregano. Sprinkle that. Drizzle with some olive oil. Bake until it smells too good to let it bake any longer. Nice with fresh arugula. I need to find a more efficient alternative to running the whole damn oven for my lunch. Maybe I should get a solar cooker. Or a mini oven. Because I need that lunch again. 3 Quote I felt like I could run forever, like I could smell the wind and feel the grass under my feet, and just run forever. Current Challenge: #24 - Mrs. Cosmopolite Challenge Past: #1, #2, #3, #4, #5, #6, #7, #8, #9, #10, #11a & #11b, #12, #13, #14, #15, #16, #17, #18, #19, #20, #21, #22, #23 Link to comment
Tanktimus the Encourager Posted January 25 Report Share Posted January 25 Toaster oven can work if you have small enough dishes Quote Current Challenge "By the Most-Righteous-and-Blessed Beard of Sir Tanktimus the Encourager!" - Jarl Rurik Harrgath Link to comment
sarakingdom Posted January 25 Author Report Share Posted January 25 46 minutes ago, Tanktimus the Encourager said: Toaster oven can work if you have small enough dishes For a second, I read that as "toaster", and wondered if I had any dishes small and vertical enough. 4 Quote I felt like I could run forever, like I could smell the wind and feel the grass under my feet, and just run forever. Current Challenge: #24 - Mrs. Cosmopolite Challenge Past: #1, #2, #3, #4, #5, #6, #7, #8, #9, #10, #11a & #11b, #12, #13, #14, #15, #16, #17, #18, #19, #20, #21, #22, #23 Link to comment
sarakingdom Posted January 25 Author Report Share Posted January 25 I am doing fairly well on my list, but I'm running out of steam and I'm bored. I do have some break stored up, and I have a "don't wanna means tired" rule, but I do want to get one of these done. Then maybe a short exercise break or something. But, ooh, it is snowing. I should go enjoy some snow. 3 Quote I felt like I could run forever, like I could smell the wind and feel the grass under my feet, and just run forever. Current Challenge: #24 - Mrs. Cosmopolite Challenge Past: #1, #2, #3, #4, #5, #6, #7, #8, #9, #10, #11a & #11b, #12, #13, #14, #15, #16, #17, #18, #19, #20, #21, #22, #23 Link to comment
Mistr Posted January 25 Report Share Posted January 25 1 hour ago, Tanktimus the Encourager said: Toaster oven can work if you have small enough dishes I second this suggestion. I bought a fairly large and good quality toaster oven about 15 years ago and have been very happy with it. It is great for reheating things that do poorly in the microwave, like pizza or croissants. You can bake just 4 cookies (from frozen) so that portion control is easy and the cookies are fresh. Timing for baking is not quite the same as a big oven, but it works pretty well. You have been pushing really hard to get work done on not enough sleep. You need tasty food and fun things. Then cuddling up in warm blankets and resting with a cup of hot chocolate. 1 Quote Level 71 Viking paladin My current challenge Battle log Link to comment
sarakingdom Posted January 25 Author Report Share Posted January 25 1 hour ago, sarakingdom said: I am doing fairly well on my list, but I'm running out of steam and I'm bored. I do have some break stored up, and I have a "don't wanna means tired" rule, but I do want to get one of these done. Then maybe a short exercise break or something. I did the one thing, then rested and did some stretching. Needed the stretching, my lower back and upper pelvis were very tight. Still tired. Might take a real nap. There are two more things I want to do, and I'm running out of time, but I am a (tired) fragile flower. 2 Quote I felt like I could run forever, like I could smell the wind and feel the grass under my feet, and just run forever. Current Challenge: #24 - Mrs. Cosmopolite Challenge Past: #1, #2, #3, #4, #5, #6, #7, #8, #9, #10, #11a & #11b, #12, #13, #14, #15, #16, #17, #18, #19, #20, #21, #22, #23 Link to comment
sarakingdom Posted January 26 Author Report Share Posted January 26 This was a surprisingly productive day, both in quantity and in the nature of the projects. If I can get more sleep and replicate this, I will be very pleased. But I do need more sleep and more brain, because this was a real struggle. Still, pretty much everything came together despite that. There's one planning/timing app I've started using again, and I've decided it's not optional. It's not perfect, but nothing else is quite as useful. It's the sweet spot of letting me plan the big picture, focus only on the small picture, and rearrange plans on the fly without losing control of the schedule. Also the philosophy of "I'm just going to do ten minutes and then take a break" for annoying things. That's good. It sounds like it should be inefficient, but it's the fastest way to plow through them. I need to make sure I set aside enough time to plow through some things. I need to get an end of day wrap-up and planning for the next day into my schedule. I think that'd wipe out a major source of focus loss in the morning. I also need more fun, although I'll kinda give today a pass. It had some almost fun. And getting all those big things done was fun. 4 1 Quote I felt like I could run forever, like I could smell the wind and feel the grass under my feet, and just run forever. Current Challenge: #24 - Mrs. Cosmopolite Challenge Past: #1, #2, #3, #4, #5, #6, #7, #8, #9, #10, #11a & #11b, #12, #13, #14, #15, #16, #17, #18, #19, #20, #21, #22, #23 Link to comment
sarakingdom Posted January 26 Author Report Share Posted January 26 Honestly, sleep is hard. I've realized that I want to talk at bedtime, not sleep. Like, it took work to get here! I'm now ready to start unwinding and socialising. Wait, where is everyone? Guys? This is probably why all the yeti swipe left on my Tinslr profile. Wait, do you think yeti sleep in a big pile like kittens? That would be so awesome. And fluffy. 5 Quote I felt like I could run forever, like I could smell the wind and feel the grass under my feet, and just run forever. Current Challenge: #24 - Mrs. Cosmopolite Challenge Past: #1, #2, #3, #4, #5, #6, #7, #8, #9, #10, #11a & #11b, #12, #13, #14, #15, #16, #17, #18, #19, #20, #21, #22, #23 Link to comment
ChrisWithaStick Posted January 28 Report Share Posted January 28 On 1/25/2023 at 2:11 PM, Mistr said: I second this suggestion. I bought a fairly large and good quality toaster oven about 15 years ago and have been very happy with it. It is great for reheating things that do poorly in the microwave, like pizza or croissants. You can bake just 4 cookies (from frozen) so that portion control is easy and the cookies are fresh. Timing for baking is not quite the same as a big oven, but it works pretty well. I've noticed a growing number of toaster ovens that double as air fryers (which are basically high powered convection anyway). That could also be useful. 1 Quote Human | Plays with Sticks | Monkish Leanings | Rangerish Overtones Occasionally Updated Facebook Link to comment
sarakingdom Posted January 28 Author Report Share Posted January 28 I'm doing sort of okay on the challenge, if I ignore the actual goals of my challenge, which, um... that's how it works, right? Set goals, don't do them, win? Anyway, I need to keep working on the fun (and also the sleep and hydration and everything in this challenge), but I have managed a big uptick in productivity and possibly in mood, and those were the secret goals. (Oh god, my challenge is a disaster.) I've taken my baseline measurements for a more focused upcoming fitness challenge. I'm moving into some nutritional territory that's got me shaking my head, but, like, I'm inching towards therapeutic keto. It's basically eat more fat and lower cortisol and sleep like a pro. I am not a sleep pro. 3 Quote I felt like I could run forever, like I could smell the wind and feel the grass under my feet, and just run forever. Current Challenge: #24 - Mrs. Cosmopolite Challenge Past: #1, #2, #3, #4, #5, #6, #7, #8, #9, #10, #11a & #11b, #12, #13, #14, #15, #16, #17, #18, #19, #20, #21, #22, #23 Link to comment
sarakingdom Posted January 29 Author Report Share Posted January 29 I have made a liter of peppermint hot cocoa, which I am going to drink at a leisurely pace, even though it is past my bedtime. It is wintery and festive, and in ridiculously joyful quantities. It is also hydrating and filling my calorie hole, and thus is highly functional. Being able to do that with a stupidly festive quantity of hot cocoa is surely a sign that Russian Ukrainian Santa loves us and wants us to be happy. It also (because it is not just hot cocoa, but bulletproof hot cocoa) makes it hard to deny that I'm not just dabbling in the hard-core end of the keto pool these days. I'm running with the "aim for 80% fat" ketovores. I'm hanging with the "women should eat at least a stick of butter a day for hormone health" crowd. I'm down with the "why are we calculating and prescribing human energy intake with a literal steam engine coal combustion measurement, when that's not even a good metaphor for how humans run their chemical energy system" folks. (Actually, I really am down with them. That's a huge science failure, IMO. 19th century industrial metaphor is a terrible way to run a health policy, let alone actual research and education. Like, it's a Looney Tunes visual cartoon pun of a stoker in the belly engine room, loading coal until steam comes out the ears and Porky tears off down the road, being spread as science. Human bodies do not, in actual fact, burn anything. Steam engine boilers burn calories. Literally that is what a calorie is. Flame is involved in the scientific definition of a calorie, steam production for engines is its intended use application. What fire does to extract thermal energy from a piece of food is unrelated to what the human body does to extract chemical energy from food, unless you're thinking of having an internal wood stove installed. In the 19th century, they didn't always know that industrial metaphors weren't always good scientific models. We should.) This shouldn't weird me put as much as it does, because ketone-producing therapeutic keto, which I wanna try for ADHD, is basically very high fat keto. Same thing, different rhetoric. I've had tons of hints that I respond best to the literal opposite of calorie restriction. I've seen my blood test numbers on strict low carb versus regular diet, and I know this is likely going to be just fine. And yet I'm super weirded out, guys. It's not even that I wasn't aware before this that butter in bulletproof coffee was one of my best strategies to take out my calorie restriction and up my fat ratio for ketone production at the same time. That was the plan. Still. How on earth did I end up having goals like "eat a stick of butter a day", guys? I'm skeptical of this corner of the internet and their "butter is a health food" angle, but I can't deny the bulk of it before that point matches my theoretical and n=1 experimental understanding of what I need to be doing. (And even then, my skepticism is largely a matter of quantity and openness. Pretending I'm not adding several tablespoons of butter to my scrambled eggs based on old English recipes, no problem. Butter is an okay food, certainly. A whole stick of it? Per day? For actual health benefits? I'm capable of turning a lot of conventional wisdom upside down, but you're asking a lot of me here. I only possess four tablespoons of ability to rationalize, it seems. Sigh. Okay. Any therapeutic keto attempt was going to involve ludicrous amounts of some fat source. It was always gonna feel this weird.) Thank god I can hide that stick of butter in a liter of peppermint hot cocoa, and just experience wintery goodness. If I had to stare it down on a plate, I'm not sure who would win. (That is a Santa who drinks his hot buttered tea and goes out to scourge the steppes, guys.) 4 Quote I felt like I could run forever, like I could smell the wind and feel the grass under my feet, and just run forever. Current Challenge: #24 - Mrs. Cosmopolite Challenge Past: #1, #2, #3, #4, #5, #6, #7, #8, #9, #10, #11a & #11b, #12, #13, #14, #15, #16, #17, #18, #19, #20, #21, #22, #23 Link to comment
sarakingdom Posted January 29 Author Report Share Posted January 29 1 hour ago, sarakingdom said: I have made a liter of peppermint hot cocoa, which I am going to drink at a leisurely pace, even though it is past my bedtime. Revised plan: I'll drink one mug at a leisurely pace, and the rest is in the thermos to stay warm till breakfast. This is getting to be like the lemonade tap I deserve. 3 Quote I felt like I could run forever, like I could smell the wind and feel the grass under my feet, and just run forever. Current Challenge: #24 - Mrs. Cosmopolite Challenge Past: #1, #2, #3, #4, #5, #6, #7, #8, #9, #10, #11a & #11b, #12, #13, #14, #15, #16, #17, #18, #19, #20, #21, #22, #23 Link to comment
Harriet Posted January 29 Report Share Posted January 29 9 hours ago, sarakingdom said: It also (because it is not just hot cocoa, but bulletproof hot cocoa) makes it hard to deny that I'm not just dabbling in the hard-core end of the keto pool these days. I'm running with the "aim for 80% fat" ketovores. I'm hanging with the "women should eat at least a stick of butter a day for hormone health" crowd. I'm down with the "why are we calculating and prescribing human energy intake with a literal steam engine coal combustion measurement, when that's not even a good metaphor for how humans run their chemical energy system" folks. I like it 9 hours ago, sarakingdom said: Any therapeutic keto attempt was going to involve ludicrous amounts of some fat source. It was always gonna feel this weird.) It feels less weird if it comes in whole foods, but I know you have trouble planning and executing food, so whatever works. For a short stint, at least. Nothing particularly harmful can accumulate in one to three months, but it would be long enough to see if there are any benefits. Personally I'm thinking I might have to do keto for a couple of months per year from now on. But if it doesn't work, you stop. When there's so much deceit and stupidity in nutrition science and politics, and considerably variability in our needs and reactions to food, self experiments are completely rational. 1 Quote Let cheese and oxen and mead crowd out our secret desires for power and domination - Harriet the Viking Just be bold, fluid and unapologetic, not small, hairy and indecisive - Harriet the Artist You can absorb me! - Harriet the Contextless Guru Link to comment
sarakingdom Posted January 29 Author Report Share Posted January 29 36 minutes ago, Harriet said: It feels less weird if it comes in whole foods, but I know you have trouble planning and executing food, so whatever works. That is all true, but nothing about that sort of fat percentage is going to come from whole foods. There's always gonna be loads of added fat to hit that sort of macro balance. It's like 3-4 grams of fat for every gram of anything else, when most food tops out at 1:1. Even cheese doesn't go much beyond the 1:1 area. The therapeutic keto region is just straight up adding extra fat to food, no way around it. 36 minutes ago, Harriet said: Nothing particularly harmful can accumulate in one to three months, but it would be long enough to see if there are any benefits. Yes, this is absolutely true. I mean, I have my macro targets and they are rationally derived for reasonable mental and physical health reasons, and I am, as you know, on board with both this sort of diet and self-experimentation. And yet I'm still having the "I'm doing what?" reaction when faced with what that means in real butter terms. 3 Quote I felt like I could run forever, like I could smell the wind and feel the grass under my feet, and just run forever. Current Challenge: #24 - Mrs. Cosmopolite Challenge Past: #1, #2, #3, #4, #5, #6, #7, #8, #9, #10, #11a & #11b, #12, #13, #14, #15, #16, #17, #18, #19, #20, #21, #22, #23 Link to comment
Harriet Posted January 29 Report Share Posted January 29 8 minutes ago, sarakingdom said: That is all true, but nothing about that sort of fat percentage is going to come from whole foods. There's always gonna be loads of added fat to hit that sort of macro balance. It's like 3-4 grams of fat for every gram of anything else, when most food tops out at 1:1. Even cheese doesn't go much beyond the 1:1 area. The therapeutic keto region is just straight up adding extra fat to food, no way around it. I may be having an easier time because I have a pound of cream per day. I might need to recalculate if I trial dairy-free--a quick look at my cronometer numbers for today suggests that ground beef is indeed severely butter-deficient. Untrimmed short ribs and pork belly might help, but I guess one wouldn't want to eat those daily. 8 minutes ago, sarakingdom said: Yes, this is absolutely true. I mean, I have my macro targets and they are rationally derived for reasonable mental and physical health reasons, and I am, as you know, on board with both this sort of diet and self-experimentation. And yet I'm still having the "I'm doing what?" reaction when faced with what that means in real butter terms. Understandable. You could write yourself a butter permission slip, sign it, and show it to you every time you raise your eyebrow at your butter intake. You could also look stoically into the distance, say "for science" and proceed with the butter like it's your noble duty. 2 Quote Let cheese and oxen and mead crowd out our secret desires for power and domination - Harriet the Viking Just be bold, fluid and unapologetic, not small, hairy and indecisive - Harriet the Artist You can absorb me! - Harriet the Contextless Guru Link to comment
sarakingdom Posted January 29 Author Report Share Posted January 29 3 hours ago, Harriet said: I may be having an easier time because I have a pound of cream per day. I might need to recalculate if I trial dairy-free--a quick look at my cronometer numbers for today suggests that ground beef is indeed severely butter-deficient. Untrimmed short ribs and pork belly might help, but I guess one wouldn't want to eat those daily. Drinking calories in general bypasses a lot of satiety cues the body has about calories and fats. That's why both 32oz sodas and 300 calorie bulletproof coffees and butter teas are infamously easy to drink (provided you can emulsify the fat into the drink, and don't have an oil slick), while not many people are willing to chow down on a 100 calorie tablespoon of butter. There are huge palatability and satiety issues with eating fat. (This is also why I started hiding a lot of calories in drinks. It's the easiest way, if you're struggling to eat enough.) Pork belly is about 50% fat, I believe. Even if you ate all the fat that rendered off, you wouldn't be on track for an 80% fat target. You'd have to add more than 50% of the weight again in pure fat. (And not eat anything less fatty than pork belly, because the offset would be worse.) Basically, more than 60% fat by weight is where the body starts really noping out on palatability, in my experience. That's like high fat cheese, or bacon with all the fat. It's right on the edge of what's too rich to eat. It's where people start wanting to dilute it with something less fatty (a salad, a cracker, and so on). But if you're hitting a macro target, you don't have many options for diluting it. Water, or maybe a green salad. And then you randomly eat a hamburger which is 35% fat, struggle with the 35%, and look horrified at how much fat you need to offset that to an 80% average. (Cheese helps a little. And pickles. But dear god, 80% is a high target. Therapeutic keto is hard. It's a major rewiring of food palatability instincts. And they put kids on this, man.) (ETA: I need to double check my by weight and by calorie percentages here, but not at at this moment. The pork belly disparity may not be that bad, but it's still low by calorie - sort of 65/35 instead of 80/20. So you still need to add fat to it for an 80% target, but not as much as I said there. You're aiming for 65% fat by weight, I think. It's still kind of a tricky macro split to accomplish, but not quite as horrifying as I thought for a second there.) Cream is very diluted fat. Calorie wise, to make up for my daily deficit if I'm not really trying to eat more, I need to add the equivalent of 227g of butter to what I'm eating now. That'd be like 3 pounds of cream, which... I'm not gonna do. And even that's easier to do than adding fat to bacon. 3 hours ago, Harriet said: Understandable. You could write yourself a butter permission slip, sign it, and show it to you every time you raise your eyebrow at your butter intake. You could also look stoically into the distance, say "for science" and proceed with the butter like it's your noble duty. Many things are solved by looking stoically into the distance, saying "for science", and proceeding like it's your noble duty. 4 Quote I felt like I could run forever, like I could smell the wind and feel the grass under my feet, and just run forever. Current Challenge: #24 - Mrs. Cosmopolite Challenge Past: #1, #2, #3, #4, #5, #6, #7, #8, #9, #10, #11a & #11b, #12, #13, #14, #15, #16, #17, #18, #19, #20, #21, #22, #23 Link to comment
Harriet Posted January 30 Report Share Posted January 30 14 hours ago, sarakingdom said: (ETA: I need to double check my by weight and by calorie percentages here, but not at at this moment. The pork belly disparity may not be that bad, but it's still low by calorie - sort of 65/35 instead of 80/20. So you still need to add fat to it for an 80% target, but not as much as I said there. You're aiming for 65% fat by weight, I think. It's still kind of a tricky macro split to accomplish, but not quite as horrifying as I thought for a second there.) Cream is very diluted fat. Calorie wise, to make up for my daily deficit if I'm not really trying to eat more, I need to add the equivalent of 227g of butter to what I'm eating now. That'd be like 3 pounds of cream, which... I'm not gonna do. And even that's easier to do than adding fat to bacon. Ah, if you're struggling severely with volume and too much satiety, then I can understand. I personally have the opposite problem--lack of satiety, finding dairy fats highly palatable--and haven't had any problem eating 1lb meat, 1lb frozen cream, and extra butter & cheese. About 3000 calories, 75-85% fat each day, when I bothered to count. I would probably struggle if I had to have it all as butter, though, since plain fats will make me nauseous in huge amounts, even though I sometimes do eat plain butter out of the fridge. Yes, very roughly 2g fat to each 1g of protein would give you more than 80% fat by calories, I think, and is recommended by Amber O'Hearn for deeper ketosis, while she says many carnivores have 1:1 for a mildly ketotic diet. 14 hours ago, sarakingdom said: Many things are solved by looking stoically into the distance, saying "for science", and proceeding like it's your noble duty. I'll try applying it to more problems, then. I shall be a scientist. 1 Quote Let cheese and oxen and mead crowd out our secret desires for power and domination - Harriet the Viking Just be bold, fluid and unapologetic, not small, hairy and indecisive - Harriet the Artist You can absorb me! - Harriet the Contextless Guru Link to comment
KB Girl Posted January 30 Report Share Posted January 30 My youngest child (and my eldest did this too when she was younger) will break into the fridge, take out the tub of butter and eat it with her bare hands. Quote KB Quest: becoming a decent kettlebell lifter and an excellent coach 2023 goals tracker; cycling: 1047,7/5000km & reading to my kids: 58/365 days (updated may 1st) my instagram - my gym's instagram Link to comment
sarakingdom Posted January 30 Author Report Share Posted January 30 4 hours ago, Harriet said: Ah, if you're struggling severely with volume and too much satiety, then I can understand. My instinct is to feel basically sated on something like a third to a half of the calories I supposedly need. If I'm really, really mindful of my body, sometimes I can realize I want a little more, but I have to be actively trying to eat more. Occasionally, if I've been eating about enough for a period of time, I'll get actual hunger signals. (Annoyingly, probably in the middle of the night.) But by and large, I don't get many hunger signals. Too much chronic calorie restriction. So I feel full on too little. 4 hours ago, Harriet said: 1lb meat, 1lb frozen cream, and extra butter & cheese. About 3000 calories, 75-85% fat each day, when I bothered to count. You have a lot to heal, so this is probably a good strategy! How long have you been doing this, and how is it going so far? 4 hours ago, Harriet said: I would probably struggle if I had to have it all as butter, though, since plain fats will make me nauseous in huge amounts Even cheese can feel a bit borderline sometimes, and I like cheese. (It's easier as cheese sauce, but then you have a bowl of cheese sauce and a spoon, and, like, that's hard for other reasons.) 5 hours ago, Harriet said: I'll try applying it to more problems, then. I shall be a scientist. /cdn-cgi/mirage/15aa44a120f8df73be9c07a9ea3ec7ca98b17e5908a2c5944b1e17c360ba574c/1280/cdn-cgi/mirage/15aa44a120f8df73be9c07a9ea3ec7ca98b17e5908a2c5944b1e17c360ba574c/1280/https://media4.giphy.com/media/i9qmSfLuXXcXK/200.gif He has not met some of the scientists I've met, I see. 1 Quote I felt like I could run forever, like I could smell the wind and feel the grass under my feet, and just run forever. Current Challenge: #24 - Mrs. Cosmopolite Challenge Past: #1, #2, #3, #4, #5, #6, #7, #8, #9, #10, #11a & #11b, #12, #13, #14, #15, #16, #17, #18, #19, #20, #21, #22, #23 Link to comment
sarakingdom Posted January 30 Author Report Share Posted January 30 1 hour ago, KB Girl said: My youngest child (and my eldest did this too when she was younger) will break into the fridge, take out the tub of butter and eat it with her bare hands. They are only following good, if niche, nutrition advice! Apparently that's very common for kids. I'd imagine if so many do it, they likely need it. Sugar is sort of addictive, so I wouldn't say the same about sugar theft, but if so many kids are stealing pure fat, which is one of the least inherently palatable things ever, there is likely a need of some sort driving it. Not even kids like pure butter enough to eat it recreationally. 1 Quote I felt like I could run forever, like I could smell the wind and feel the grass under my feet, and just run forever. Current Challenge: #24 - Mrs. Cosmopolite Challenge Past: #1, #2, #3, #4, #5, #6, #7, #8, #9, #10, #11a & #11b, #12, #13, #14, #15, #16, #17, #18, #19, #20, #21, #22, #23 Link to comment
Harriet Posted January 30 Report Share Posted January 30 19 minutes ago, sarakingdom said: My instinct is to feel basically sated on something like a third to a half of the calories I supposedly need. Ah. I don't envy you. That sounds quite difficult. 19 minutes ago, sarakingdom said: You have a lot to heal, so this is probably a good strategy! How long have you been doing this, and how is it going so far? Three weeks tomorrow. So far, my mood is extremely stable and calm (if keto was 85% mood stability, carnivore is 95%). My energy has been a little better than usual, but within the range of recent variation. Hunger, cravings, and obsessive food thoughts are completely quiet. My weight is exactly the same as it was, which is perhaps an interesting finding given the higher than usual calories and the fact I have also maintained weight on much lower calories with other diets. No other changes of note. I'm currently completely horribly crashed from an 7+ hour event that was well outside my range (predictable but unavoidable) and I feel physically awful but my mood has not deteriorated as it usually would with a crash. 19 minutes ago, sarakingdom said: Even cheese can feel a bit borderline sometimes, and I like cheese. (It's easier as cheese sauce, but then you have a bowl of cheese sauce and a spoon, and, like, that's hard for other reasons.) One can definitely have too much cheese. And I, too, have found that melting cheese in the microwave helps me to eat more. 19 minutes ago, sarakingdom said: He has not met some of the scientists I've met, I see. Indeed. 1 Quote Let cheese and oxen and mead crowd out our secret desires for power and domination - Harriet the Viking Just be bold, fluid and unapologetic, not small, hairy and indecisive - Harriet the Artist You can absorb me! - Harriet the Contextless Guru Link to comment
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