[TimovieMan]

TimovieMan respawns in 2023 - Part I: Move It!

 

 

 

It's a new year, and I'm in need of another respawn.

Let me summarize the history:

 

I weighed 112 kgs in September 2018, started working on that, signed up here, lost 20 kgs by February 2019.

Remained at 92 kgs until September 2019, at which point I got a "second drive" and lost another 4 kgs by December.

When Corona hit in 2020, it all went to hell. I had lost 24 kgs and reached a weight of 88 kgs. Corona made me regain 18 kgs in about a year.

April 2021: respawn time. In the period between April and June, I lost 9 kgs again, from 106 to 97. And then I faltered again.

Repeat in 2022: regained 9 kgs, respawned in April, lost the 9 kgs again, then faltered again.

 

So now I'm respawning yet again. The damage is a bit less this time, only 5 kgs gained since June. So I'm at 102 kgs.

 

 

 

The big goal: get the weight under 90 kgs again.

 

How will I lose the weight? By doing what I know works for me. Just being a bit more strict about it again.

That means intermittent fasting.

But for now, I'm content just tracking things again. Ballpark the calories in, look at the Fitbit for calories spent, any deficit is good enough for now.

 

The real goal now? Get moving again!

I've been faltering for a while and need to gain momentum again. Do something, anything. Even if it's just a set of burpees and a 30-second plank.

 

Get moving now. The rest will follow later.

 

 

 

Week 0: 

Track things again. Calories in & out, amount of activity.

Try to get a set of burpees and a plank in every day. Don't sweat it if you miss one, just don't miss two in a row!

 

Week 1:

Add a full bodyweight workout in there. Just the one.

 

Week 2:

Get the daily step count up. 4 days of 8000+ steps is not enough. Try to get 60.000+ for the week.

 

Week 3:

Try to get a second full bodyweight workout in there.

 

Week 4:

Get the daily step count up. Try to get 70.000+ for the week.

 

Week 5:

No additions this week, just keep at it.

 

Small steps... 😇

 

 

 

Possibly.

 

I'm currently suffering from a tennis elbow.

I'm seeing a physiotherapist for it, but it hasn't really improved yet, and I have daily stretching exercises to do. I do them, that's not the issue. The issue is that I don't know how my elbow is going to hold up during exercising. I haven't really been doing anything since my elbow started acting up (late November), so I just don't know.

I will need to adjust my workout accordingly...

 

 

But for now?

 

Let's do this!

 

[Elastigirl]

Welcome back!

[TimovieMan]

For those that were following me a few years ago, there's a "tradition" in my threads that I want to keep up: posting music.

 

In one of my last posts on the forums here, back in 2021, I was talking about Lord of the Lost and their then-new single 'Priest'. Turns out that the album they released that year, 'Judas', became pretty much my favourite album of all time. A double concept album about Judas Iscariot, it feels like one giant rock metal opera, with recurring themes, a lot of theatricality mixing metal with other genres and even Gregorian chanting at times, a lot of catchy choruses, and thoughtful lyrics describing the many theories about Judas (including the one where Jesus Himself asked Judas to betray Him, and Judas being the one "true" disciple). The album is imho a masterpiece.
But that's not important right now.

Lord of the Lost have been one of my favourite bands in recent years, so of course I wanted to see them live. But since they don't perform in Belgium, my closest options were Köln in Germany, Arnhem in Holland, and Paris, France. All about a three hour drive away.

But Arnhem is pretty much "in the middle of nowhere" for me, and I didn't want to go to Köln since the band is from Germany and while I do speak a little German, I wouldn't get all the song bindings. So I opted for Paris (which was also the easiest to reach by train for me), where the band would be speaking in English in-between songs.

So I went to Paris for just one night. Took the train to Lille (which is just 20 km away), and then a TGV to Paris, just for a single concert.

And then a stay at a cheap hotel, and returning home the next day.

And. It. Was. Glorious!

Excellent gig, so of course, now I'll be waiting for them to come to Belgium for a change... 😁

 

Anyway, one of the bands that opened for Lord of the Lost in Paris, was Nachtblut, also Germans. I prepared for the gig by checking out their set lists so I would know which songs they'd play. I had never heard of Nachtblut before, but as soon as I listened to what would be their opening song that night, I was hooked. That song was a thing of beauty, and my German was just good enough to let out a solid chuckle at the lyrics, the first time I heard this:

 

 

  

15 minutes ago, Elastigirl said:

Welcome back!

Thanks!

[Wild Wolf]

16 hours ago, TimovieMan said:

 

+5 points to referencing Tenacious D  

 

You got this!! I'll do my best to keep you accountable as we both respawn and transition into AWESOMENESS!

 

 

Wolf

[Shello]

Welcome back!  I like the gradual build up of goals.  

[TimovieMan]

4 hours ago, Wild Wolf said:

+5 points to referencing Tenacious D  

 

You got this!! I'll do my best to keep you accountable as we both respawn and transition into AWESOMENESS!

Thanks!

And who doesn't love the D? 🤘

 

4 hours ago, Shello said:

Welcome back!  I like the gradual build up of goals.  

Thank you!!!

 

 

 

Let the tracking begin:

Calories in are rough ballpark figures, always rounded up.
Calories spent, steps, sleep are what my Fitbit says. That means ALL calories spent (even those for simply keeping me alive), and sleep is actual sleep (not just the time spent in bed).

 

 

Monday, February 6th

 

Nutrition:

Intermittent fasting: no

Calories in: +/- 3500

Calories spent: 3365

 

Movement:

Worked from home

Walked to the physiotherapist's: +/- 5000 steps I wouldn't have gotten otherwise

Steps: 9368

Training: none

 

Health care:

Blood pressure meds: taken

Elbow care: physiotherapist session

Sleep: 7h 09m

 

 

Spent so long making my respawn post that I got in bed super late and didn't do any training. No calorie deficit either. "Meh" day, but maybe it's not a bad thing that I'm not sprinting out the gate like a madman? 😇

 

 

The song for today is by young Belgian band Meltheads. It's a track  they released last year that put them on the map, at least locally. It's their only song in Dutch (the rest of their output is in English). It seems like a protest against fake news, and they definitely come across as modern-day “angry young men”. I immediately took a liking to the song...

 

 

[RES]

I'm loving this gradual buildup plan! Following along for goals and music  

[TimovieMan]

19 hours ago, RES said:

I'm loving this gradual buildup plan! Following along for goals and music  

Thanks!

 

 

 

Tracking:

 

Tuesday, February 7th

 

Nutrition:

Intermittent fasting: no

Calories in: +/- 3000

Calories spent: 3745

 

Movement:

Biking to work and back, half hour walk during lunch break, short walk during daughter's piano lesson

Steps: 14.410

Training: 10 burpees, 48s planking

 

Health care:

Blood pressure meds: taken

Elbow care: iced & stretched

Sleep: 4h 14m

 

 

 

My "All-time top 2000" project is still ongoing. I'm at the N at the moment, and I came across this. I'm not sure if this song is a discovery or a rediscovery. I know for certain that my dad had Neil Young's "Harvest" album when I was a kid, but honestly, I really only knew Heart of Gold.

Anyhow, this started playing as the first song I alphabetically came across in Neil Young's selection on my list. It grabbed me immediately. When the first chorus came, the song intensified and Neil Young had me hooked, but then the London Philharmonic Orchestra joined in with the strings and I was completely blown away. Despite the seemingly sexist track title, there's a loneliness that emanates from the song and a fear of getting heartbroken again. This is Neil Young at his absolute best, imo.

 

 

[Salinger]

Harvest Moon is such a great album. 

 

Do you like Deja Vu by  Crosby, Stills, Nash & Young?

 

The other week i got it on vinyl. SO GOOD. Almost Cut My Hair is one of my fave songs ever. 

[TimovieMan]

6 hours ago, Salinger said:

Do you like Deja Vu by  Crosby, Stills, Nash & Young?

 

The other week i got it on vinyl. SO GOOD. Almost Cut My Hair is one of my fave songs ever. 

 

When David Crosby passed away last month, someone showed me this acoustic solo version of Almost Cut My Hair:

 

 

Extremely powerful version. Man, how he could sing.

 

I may be a bit partial to (and best acquainted with the works of) Neil Young, but all four are/were a talented bunch in any iteration, whether it was Stills & Young (Buffalo Springfield), Crosby, Stills & Nash, or Crosby, Stills, Nash & Young.

[TimovieMan]

Tracking:

 

Wednesday, February 8th

 

Nutrition:

Intermittent fasting: no

Calories in: +/- 3100

Calories spent: 3734

 

Movement:

Half day working from home, half day personal driver for the kids.

More steps than usual on Wednesday since my son accompanied me during grocery shopping and he wanted to push the trolley. Now my steps actually counted. 😅

Short walk during my kids' football and swimming practice

Steps: 13.480

Training: none*

 

Health care:

Blood pressure meds: taken

Elbow care: iced & stretched

Sleep: 6h 06m

 

 

* I do my small "burpees and planking" workout just before going to bed. I fell asleep on the couch and slept through my 23:45 workout alarm. When I woke up, I just went to bed. I figured that as long as I don't miss two in a row, sleep is more important than training. Especially since I know the culprit:

Quote

Tuesday, February 7th

Sleep: 4h 14m

 

 

 

 

 

A couple of months ago, The Smashing Pumpkins dropped a MASSIVE new single.

I *want* to say that my first reaction upon hearing it was "damn, these guys still rock!".

Unfortunately, my actual first reaction was "wait, didn't they disband 20 years ago when Billy Corgan formed Zwan?!?"

Not only did I find out that they had reformed, but this song was the prelude to their sixth studio album since reforming...

Out of touch, much?

 

 

That riff is just EPIC!

 

The video also made me realize that Billy Corgan is a LOT taller than I took him for. 1m90, apparently.

[TimovieMan]

 

Every time I respawn, just the fact that I get myself going again quickly snowballs into doing far more than I originally had envisioned.

I'm 4 days into my respawn, and I've already added two past challenges back into the mix:

- Walking to Mordor and Back Again

- DailyDare - NF Edition

 

OK, walking to Mordor is really just a tracking exercise where I log all the distances that my Fitbit tagged as actual activity (so all 10+ minute walks, not just ALL steps). But I'm restarting from Hobbiton (otherwise my OCD would have me add all the logs for the previous two years as well), and I even modified the 2022 spreadsheet for this year and started the thread in the Adventure Parties and PVP Challenges forum, simply because a 2023 thread didn't exist yet.
And I'm adding the DailyDare exercise - if my left elbow permits it - to my small daily workout (which is otherwise just a single burpee AMRAP and a single plank hold ALAP).

 

Even though this entire challenge is just to get me moving again, with no mention of a diet, I'm already noticing I'm getting back into my 16/8 intermittent fasting mindset. I'm working from home today, and while that generally means I'll fail the 16/8 schedule, I'm making a conscious effort to have it succeed. This despite the food being practically within reach.

 

I'm not adjusting the challenge, though.  I'm still keeping the actual goals small, since this is mainly about restarting my habits, and I don't want "poorer" days to bring me down because I failed to do something that I'm not *really* focussing on yet. The goals remain the same. There are just going to be days where I do bonus stuff. 🙂

 

It *may* impact a later challenge, though. 😇

 

[TimovieMan]

Tracking:

 

Thursday, February 9th

 

Nutrition:

Intermittent fasting: yes, 23 hours!!!

Calories in: +/- 2700

Calories spent: 3686

 

Movement:

Biking to work and back, half hour walk during lunch break

Steps: 9.420

Training: 10 burpees, 1m00s plank hold, 40 plank arm raises (DailyDare - 20 left, 20 right)

 

Health care:

Blood pressure meds: taken

Elbow care: iced & stretched

Sleep: 7h 56m

 

 

 

Wanted to go for a half hour walk during my son's football practice as well, but the missus took him to practice, and I got cooking duty instead.

 

 

Shortly after the kids had gone to bed, I was in the bathroom shaving/trimming before taking a shower. Suddenly my daughter came in to go to the toilet, but she was crying.

Apparently some classmates had said some things about her online, while they were playing a game on Roblox earlier (and she was now processing that).

The thing is: my daughter is 9 and she has inherited the unholy combination of my autism spectrum disorder and the missus' high sensitivity. We're taking her to a psychologist every other week to combat her low self-esteem and negative thoughts, but we've still got a long way to go.

She frequently goes on a downward spiral of negativity and then gets stuck in that thinking. To give an example: she likes to draw (and is really good at it), but she can make a drawing, be dissatisfied with one small part of that drawing, and then try to get her own dissatisfaction confirmed by someone else. So she'll show her drawing to all her classmates with the leading question "this is ugly, isn't it?", until one of her classmates doesn't think things through and agrees with her. She'll then take that ONE confirmation as proof that the drawing is indeed ugly and get herself stuck in that low self-worth thinking, and she'll actively look for further confirmation of her own perceived worthlessness. If she then sees two classmates sharing a joke and laughing, she'll immediately assume they were gossiping about her and laughing at her and bring herself down even further.

So if she's crying because some classmates said something about her online, it's kind of hard to know if they actually were gossiping about her, or if she willfully misinterpreted something to bring herself down. It's a minefield to navigate.

 

But as she was crying, I managed to comfort her and calm her down by stating how easy it is to misinterpret something that's written online, how easy it is for her to misinterpret what others said, but also how easy it is for others to misinterpret what she said - which can then spark a reaction that leads to actual arguments. I was giving exaggerated examples to get her attention, and it worked.

Somehow Duracell / Energizer bunnies came into the conversation a bit later, and that lead to some shenanigans about things that get seriously overpowered simply by getting a fresh set of batteries. I managed to get her laughing again, before sending her back to bed.

 

I'm not sure if any of the things I actually said to her were actually helpful for her in the long run, but in the space of ten minutes, I got her to stop crying, calm down and laughing.

If anything, it certainly felt like good parenting. And that made me feel good about myself, so there's that. 🙂

 

 

 

 

So for the song of the day, I'd like to pick something that brings attention to mental health issues.

Back in October, Godsmack was performing in Brussels, and since I love those guys but never saw them live before, I got tickets and then quickly had to catch up on not one but two studio albums they released that I hadn’t heard before. I kinda stopped tracking them after the kids were born...
One of those albums contained a ballad that was rather powerful. They played it as the first encore at the gig even, with a long intro by frontman Sully Erna who talked about the band’s Scars Foundation to help raise awareness of mental health issues. It made for a goosebumps moment.

And it's a really good song too!

 

 

[RES]

One of my favorite songs 

[Ziraiah]

I'm peeking in to say hi! I agree with all the others here: I love those gradual goals you have. It's way easier to build up slowly, than start from 200% and burn out really fast. It's not sustainable in the long run. (I know, I've been there #perfectionist)

 

Good job with the difficult situation with your daughter. I don't have kids, but sounds like you have a very understanding and kind approach. I respect that.

[TimovieMan]

Tracking:

 

Friday, February 10th

 

Nutrition:

Intermittent fasting: yes, 19 hours

Calories in: +/- 2900

Calories spent: 2969

 

Movement:

Worked from home

Walked to the physiotherapist's: 4000+ steps I wouldn't have gotten otherwise

Steps: 6596

Training: none

 

Health care:

Blood pressure meds: taken

Elbow care: physiotherapy session, iced & stretched

Sleep: 4h 11m

 

 

Sleep was even worse than Tuesday, although it didn't feel like it. Sure, I got in bed late, but that's par for the course and it wasn't nowhere near as late as on Monday night.

Took me a good long while to fall asleep, though. Probably had too much coffee at work Thursday. That's becoming more and more of an issue these last few years. That didn't happen when I was younger - I could down an entire pot of coffee and go right to bed, falling asleep within seconds. Not any more...

 

Brother-in-law came over in the evening, as he does every week. By the time he left, that poor night's sleep caught up with me, so I forwent the training and went to bed instead. Had to get up early on Saturday anyway for my son's football match...

 

 

 

 

Here's a song I've loved since I was a teenager, it's 'Diane' by Therapy?:

 

I only found out last week that this is not in fact Therapy?'s song, but is actually a cover. The original is by punk band Hüsker Dü, from the early '80s. I had no idea...

This is the original:

 

I still prefer Therapy?'s version, though. 😇

The strings are hauntingly effective...

[Snarkyfishguts]

It was good parenting. It's hard when your kid is suffering and it sounds like you successfully gave her some peace. Hope your son's football match goes well today!

[Salinger]

You are an amazing dad xx

[TimovieMan]

20 hours ago, RES said:

One of my favorite songs 

The song's indeed amazing.

My favourite Godsmack song is still Re-Align, though. 😇🤘

 

10 hours ago, Ziraiah said:

I'm peeking in to say hi! I agree with all the others here: I love those gradual goals you have. It's way easier to build up slowly, than start from 200% and burn out really fast. It's not sustainable in the long run. (I know, I've been there #perfectionist)

 

Good job with the difficult situation with your daughter. I don't have kids, but sounds like you have a very understanding and kind approach. I respect that.

Thanks, and welcome!

 

Most of the time I'm the stern parent in the household, and my daughter usually goes to Mrs. MovieMan for things like this - much to my chagrin since I want her to talk to me about everything too. It's good to know that she still does sometimes...

 

1 hour ago, Snarkyfishguts said:

It was good parenting. It's hard when your kid is suffering and it sounds like you successfully gave her some peace. Hope your son's football match goes well today!

Football match went very well. Won 4-20. It's U8 football, so matches are 5v5. My son's the goalie (for half the match or 3/4) usually. Only conceded 1 when in goal. 🙂

 

1 hour ago, Salinger said:

You are an amazing dad xx

Thanks!

 

The hard part is that it's so difficult to differentiate between what actually happened and what she thinks happened. I know that she believes what she says, and I want to take her words at face value, but I can't. So I always have to question her to assess the context, but I don't want her to feel like I don't believe what she says...

[TimovieMan]

Tracking:

 

Saturday, February 11th

 

Nutrition:

Intermittent fasting: no

Calories in: +/- 3300

Calories spent: 3188

 

Movement:

Nothing dedicated, but not *too* shabby either.

Steps: 6827

Training: 6 burpees*, 1m00s plank hold, 20 calf raises (DailyDare), 60s  pacer steps (DailyDare)

 

Health care:

Blood pressure meds: taken

Elbow care: iced & stretched

Sleep: 6h 48m

 

 

* did the training at 3 in the afternoon. Since I'm an evening person, that's theoretically when my energy is pretty much at its lowest, which I assume is why the burpees went so poorly. Only managed 6, and it's both the push-ups and the jumping that started failing, so not just one single part of it.

But I did it anyway, and I did two DailyDare exercises, so meh. I moved!

[Ziraiah]

Done is always better than trying to be perfect and getting nothing done. So yay, for you! You did it anyways, despite the low energy. 🙌

[shaar]

Agreed that any bit of movement is good movement and is great for habit building! You did the thing, damnit!

 

Following for support and also to enjoy the music posting~

[TimovieMan]

6 hours ago, Ziraiah said:

Done is always better than trying to be perfect and getting nothing done. So yay, for you! You did it anyways, despite the low energy. 🙌

That's pretty much my mindset for the challenge: TRY to do it every day, but as long as I don't miss two in a row, I don't really care how many I miss. And I definitely don't care how well it goes. The requirement is: doing the thing! 🙂

 

That's my main issue: I know what I have to do, it's just the "actually doing it" part that tends to go wrong, which is why I need some accountability here, because it quickly goes awry without that.

I've actually been wanting to respawn since last August, but kept postponing. When did I get going with the respawn? When I came back to the forums last week...

 

6 hours ago, shaar said:

Agreed that any bit of movement is good movement and is great for habit building! You did the thing, damnit!

 

Following for support and also to enjoy the music posting~

Thanks!!!

 

 

 

I hadn't used the "smart" scale we have at home in a while. Perfect time to get a "starting point" to compare to:

 

Weekly weigh-in

 

Weight: 102.2 kg

Body fat: 24.9%

Visceral fat: 10.5%

 

Blood pressure: 144/975

 

 

Weight is what I expected: in the vicinity of 102. Body fat and visceral fat are actually quite ok for that weight, I had expected worse.

Blood pressure is higher than I expected, especially since I've been more consistent with my meds these last weeks than I have *ever* been...

 

 

 

 

I caught part of a documentary on TV about Motown a few days ago. Interesting stuff. I particularly like the following anecdote:

Martha Reeves (of Martha Reeves and the Vandellas fame), was working at Motown Records as a secretary. One day, they were recording with session musicians and without a singer. But apparently, union rules back in those days required recording studios to have live vocalists present, so purely instrumental recording was not allowed. And of course they had a surprise inspection by the union, so they quickly needed a singer. The secretary, who had some singing experience and had actually auditioned with Motown but got hired as a secretary instead of as a singer, saw her moment and said "I'll do it!". She promptly did so well that they immediately gave her a band to work with... 🙂

 

Anyway, I'm not the biggest fan of R&B and consequently I'm not that well versed in it. So in the same category as yesterday, "that was a cover?!?", there's this song I grew up with as a kid. I was 4 years old when Live Aid happened in 1985, so while I don't have any memories of the event itself, I do know the music from that time. And I grew up with a dad who was a fan of Queen, Led Zeppelin, Pink Floyd, The Rolling Stones, The Who and David Bowie (among many others), so naturally I knew damn well who Mick Jagger & David Bowie were:

 

What I didn't know - and to my dismay only found out a short while ago - was that this song is in fact a cover. The Bowie & Jagger version is the one I’ve always known, but for some reason I never heard any of the other versions (since Van Halen, The Kinks and The Mamas and the Papas also had a cover of this earlier than Bowie & Jagger). The original, however, is by Martha Reeves & The Vandellas from 1964. Which kind of made that Motown anecdote even more poignant. 😅

Here's the original:

 

Fun tidbit about the original: it was written by the drummer of the Vandellas. Someone who went solo later and had quite the career... No-one other than... Marvin Gaye!!!

Let's just say I dropped my jaw when I found out...

[RES]

I was considerably older than you in '85 and I also was unaware that was a cover! 

[TimovieMan]

While Valentine's Day is only tomorrow, we celebrated it yesterday, because Tuesdays where we both have to work and my daughter has piano lesson are kinda hard for celebrations.

 

I got us a deluxe breakfast (with some extra things for the kids), but since that meant bread rolls and cold cuts, croissants, chocolate rolls, raisin rolls, orange juice, chocolate milk, coffee, yoghurt, smoothies, etc. that also meant MASSIVE calorie intake and ZERO fucks given.

While it's hard to gauge just how many calories I took in yesterday (because we visited some friends in the afternoon, and of course there was cake), it's pretty safe to say it was a lot.

My best guess is at 4500 for the day. No idea if that's an over- or underestimation, or spot on. But it's the number I'm going for.

 

I also got the missus some new earrings. And she got me a PS4 game. 😅

 

I'm always wary when she buys a video game without my knowledge, because I know a lot of games, and I know which I'll like and which I won't, and which are practically shovelware and which are most likely qualitive. She doesn't.

But for once, she totally nailed the gift, because the game was on my radar. She got me this:

 

I basically went:

Followed by:

 

 

 

Tracking for the day:

 

Sunday, February 12th

 

Nutrition:

Intermittent fasting: no

Calories in: +/- 4500

Calories spent: 2856

 

Movement:

None, apart from the late-night mini-workout

Steps: 2914 - typical Sunday

Training: 10 burpees, 1m10s plank hold, 40 prone reverse flies (DailyDare)

 

Health care:

Blood pressure meds: taken

Elbow care: iced & stretched*

Sleep: 6h 28m

 

 

* This was the first day where it felt that my elbow was improving. The physiotherapy works! 🙂

 

 

 

 

Weekly summary

 

Nutrition:

Intermittent fasting: 2x

Calories in: +/- 23.000

Calories spent: 24.032

 

Movement:

Walk to Mordor: 9,6 miles - past the first slopes of Green Hill Country, lights of Hobbiton no longer visible

Steps: 63.015

Training: 4 mini-workouts, 4x DailyDare, didn't miss two in a row

 

Health care:

Blood pressure meds: taken every day

Elbow care: iced & stretched every day

Average sleep: 6h 07m

 

I am very ok with this for week zero.

 

 

 

 

Since I've done "that was a cover?!?" the past two days, why not add another one of those in the mix?

I've known the following song by Belgian band Yevgueni since they released their debut album in 2005. I love this song, but only found out a few months ago that it's not originally theirs. It's a translated cover of a Suzanne Vega song, and I only found out because my favourite radio station played the original and it didn't take me very long to recognize the similarities and go "The Yevgueni song was a cover?!?".

 

Yevgueni did "In deze stad" (translated: "In This City") in 2005:

 

Suzanne Vega had "In Liverpool" back in 1992:

 

The thing is: this wasn’t the first time the band Yevgueni made me go “that was a cover?!?”. I’ve known their song “Zo donker” (tr.: "So Dark") since 2007 but only found out a couple of years ago that it was a cover of “I See a Darkness” by Bonnie Prince Billy - a song that also had a great version done by Johnny Cash...

 

  

3 hours ago, RES said:

I was considerably older than you in '85 and I also was unaware that was a cover! 

To quote Socrates: all I know is that I know nothing… 😁