Got milk?

[Nomolos]

I'm want to get some perspectives on milk. When I was a globo-gym going person, a surprising amount of my fellow gym rats swore by milk, hailing it as the sweet nectar of recovery and gains. So what do you think the deal is: miracle liquid or dairy industry conspiracy?

[bigm141414]

Nope, no conspiracy. Milk a pretty good way to get extra calories, fat, and protein if you are looking to add bulk. It's got food fats and protein in it (the whole milk kind, not the skim milk watery mess). 

 

Many people trying to bulk and weight mass will try the GOMAD program (Gallon Of Milk A Day) with varying sucess. 

[Gainsdalf the Whey]

It makes baby cows grow into big strong bulls and will do the same to you if you drink enough of it and lift heavy.  It will also add a good amount of fat. One of my best strength gain periods came at a time where I was downing a quart of whole milk with 2 scoops of whey protein (50g protein) mixed in after every workout. I also gained almost 10 lb in 2 months.

[Waldo]

Milk is specially engineered by nature to help you grow bigger.  Humans have not found a better alternative, and heck most "mass gainers" are simply milk protein + sugar in a fancy package, costing more than milk. 

 

Most protein powder is simply flavored powdered dehydrated lactose-free skim milk.

 

Milk is also probably the cheapest source of protein, per gram, that exists.

 

I drink whole when bulking and skim when cutting.  How much depends on the rest of my day, usually 1-4 pints.  It enables you to control your calories with a lot of precision day after day.

[Nomolos]

Milk is specially engineered by nature to help you grow bigger.  Humans have not found a better alternative, and heck most "mass gainers" are simply milk protein + sugar in a fancy package, costing more than milk. 

 

Most protein powder is simply flavored powdered dehydrated lactose-free skim milk.

 

Milk is also probably the cheapest source of protein, per gram, that exists.

 

I drink whole when bulking and skim when cutting.  How much depends on the rest of my day, usually 1-4 pints.  It enables you to control your calories with a lot of precision day after day.

 

Since I'm cutting, how do you think I should implement milk into my diet?

[stevembk]

Remember that whole milk has higher fat (not always a bad thing) and the lesser fat varieties have more sugar. A lot of people here avoid sugar instead of fat.

[marionette]

Milk really is about what it is you are looking to do. I'm a big fan of raw milk, but wouldn't advise it for every day or for the uninitiated (think montezuma without mexico). As with anything it is all about portion. 8oz of whole milk has 8g protein, 8g fat, and 13g sugars - but unless you are like me and drink out of 8 ounce jelly jars your average beverage glass is probably in the 12-16 ounce range so be aware of portions and your own goals.

[Waldo]

Remember that whole milk has higher fat (not always a bad thing) and the lesser fat varieties have more sugar. A lot of people here avoid sugar instead of fat.

 

LOLWUT?

 

Lesser varieties?

More sugar?

 

This post makes no sense.

 

The only difference between whole, 2%, 1%, and skim is the fat content.

[stevembk]

LOLWUT?

 

Lesser varieties?

More sugar?

 

This post makes no sense.

 

The only difference between whole, 2%, 1%, and skim is the fat content.

 

They add sugar to reduced fat milk. skim has more sugar than all the others.

[bigm141414]

They add sugar to reduced fat milk. skim has more sugar than all the others.

 

It is a matter of proportions. Remove the fat and yeah skim milk has more sugar (explained below). They don't ADD sugar to it.  

 

First, the question that was asked, in its original form: Is there more sugar in skim milk? Think of it like this: Put a glass of whole milk on the table; now skim out the fat. Since you have removed a part of the milk, there is not only less fat in the glass, but also less milk overall in the glass. There is still the same amount of sugar in the glass (remember, I didn't tell you to add any sugar).

The same is true in our milk problem. Because the amount of milk has decrease, but the amount of sugar has stayed the same, it becomes proportionally bigger than it had been when there was more milk. If you drink that glass of milk, you will drink the same amount of sugar you would have drunk had you drunk the original glass of whole milk; on the other hand, if you top up the glass with skim milk until it is full again, you will have added a little bit of sugar. However, when dealing with proportions, we have to know what the original proportion is to know just how much we have increased. A quick look over some nutritional labels of whole milk and skim milk tells me that skim milk has about 1.1 times as much sugar (since there is relatively low sugar, this extra 0.1x of sugar is also extremely low - almost insignificant). On the other hand, whole milk has about 1.9 times as many calories as skim milk, and has about 30 times as much fat

TL;DR: 1 cup of skim milk has more sugar than one cup of whole milk because you removed the fat.

[stevembk]

Sorry, thats what I meant. There is more sugar though

[marionette]

Sorry, thats what I meant. There is more sugar though

 

Actually no, there isn't. 

 

8oz skim milk has 8g protein, 0g fat, and 12g sugars (info from http://nutritiondata.self.com/facts/dairy-and-egg-products/77/2)

[PrincessHeather]

 

Also, I only drink raw milk, or organic when I can't get raw. I will not drink conventional milk, it tastes terrible, among other things.