Warriors General Chat Thread

[Gainsdalf the Whey]

Say what now? 

 

I still don't agree with the last h in "Hahahah"

[katscratch]

Say what now? 

 

Hehe, wasn't the post I was referring to  Even better, you were quoted so you'd have to use your magic admin wand

[Morrigainz]

Hehe, wasn't the post I was referring to  Even better, you were quoted so you'd have to use your magic admin wand

Yeah. Was pretty glaring

[bigm141414]

I still don't agree with the last h in "Hahahah"

 

I don't like leaving the hard A sound at the end of my laughs. 

 

Hehe, wasn't the post I was referring to  Even better, you were quoted so you'd have to use your magic admin wand

 

 

Yeah. Was pretty glaring

 

 

Don't know what you are talking about...

 

 

*...walks away whistling nonchalantly.....*

[katscratch]

[gomezkun]

How I imagine our bro-down the first time Seth and I meet IRL.

 

 

I don't know why I loved this scene so much - but I did. It shall be the meetings of all meetings.

 

My ultimate goal is to be able to cosplay Major Armstrong :-D

 

Nice! Pics or it didn't happen

 

One of my favorites from last time, which has been book marked for future need, is "Eat All Teh Things"

 

 

Gotta bulk up

[orcwarrior]

Hey, a little respect! That last gif is from my family's last Thanksgiving! Looks like Aunt Edna....

[Gainsdalf the Whey]

Samr stuff and keep the power cleans. If you want more back work add chins. I'd honestly just stay with SS and do it for 5x5 if you need the volume, but it's sort of a step backward for building strength.

Sent from my iPhone- please forgive length and autocorrects (yes, I'm blaming it on the phone).

[bigm141414]

If you have a particular weakness in horizontal pulling then BB rows are the way to go. They also help balance out the bench pressing much more so than OHP. (OHP and pullups are a better opposite than OHP and bench). 

[wesb1898]

I think StrongLifts does BB Rows because there is less technique to learn.  Just my guess.

 

And, Hi Warriors.  Been thinking of making the hop from the Rangers for a while, and I finally took the plunge.  Glad to be here with the lifting and eating crowd.

[Gainsdalf the Whey]

If you have a particular weakness in horizontal pulling then BB rows are the way to go. They also help balance out the bench pressing much more so than OHP. (OHP and pullups are a better opposite than OHP and bench).

OHP isn't meant to be the opposite movement of the bench, it's supposed to be a compliment like power cleans are to deadlifts. The powercleans or rows, whichever they are, develop the musculature that opposes the bench press movement. You might wanna add rows anyway as that horizontal pulling isn't covered much in SS.

Switch to higher volume is at the advice of a powerlifting-focused trainer, whom I respect knows his stuff. I've been stalling a lot with progress (or it feels like it), and he thinks more volume would help.

I don't have any particular deadlift weaknesses, though I reckon my grip could be a bit better, and my upper back rounds a bit on heavy lifts (like 1RM or at the end of a high rep set). After looking at my form for a while, the trainer reckoned my form was fine (well, some slight changes to feet position/grip), and the problem with my back rounding wasn't showing up, and can probably be put down to simply not being strong enough! *lol*

He's not a fan of power cleans, but neither did he recommend an alternative. I don't really know why SS loves powercleans and SL loves rows - thought some people might like to weigh in and enlighten me?

Oh, I think you should try to increase volume as looking at one thing that might help, yes, but not by adding more sets across like that. In order to accomplish all the reps in 5x5 vs 3x5, you have to work out at a lower intensity such as 5x5x135 instead of 3x5x145. women especially respond better to higher intensities than men do, so you don't want to reduce that. What I would suggest instead would be to stick to 3x5 and keep the intensity up then add either 3x10 at a lower weight (such as squats at 3x5x145 then 3x10x95, all numbers arbitrary) to up the volume or add in a 3x8-10 assistance movement, such as doing 3x5 squats followed by 3x8 good mornings.

Personally, what I did after I started stalling on 3x5 was Bill Starr's 5x5 through using Madcow and had crazy gains in the first few months of this year. It's a weekly periodization where you work up to 1 heavy set of 5, which lets you go heavier (higher intensity) than 3x5 since you don't have to save anything for later sets. The program I used is HERE if you wanna take a look.

The reason SS loves power cleans is because it's a fast, powerful movement that is more applicable to athleticism. SL loves rows because they are a very simple, easy to learn exercise that hits the back well.

[bigm141414]

I think StrongLifts does BB Rows because there is less technique to learn.  Just my guess.

 

And, Hi Warriors.  Been thinking of making the hop from the Rangers for a while, and I finally took the plunge.  Glad to be here with the lifting and eating crowd.

 

Nope that is spot on. The power clean is a difficult movement to learn given its explosive nature and high rate of bar speed. It takes time to learn correctly on your own, more so than the other powerlifts.

 

 

And welcome wes! Been waiting for you to make the jump for a while. 

 

 

*...hands wes his Warrior badge and complimentary bucket o' bacon....*

[wesb1898]

Hooray!  Bucket o' bacon!

[weirdquark]

I'm switching from 3x5 (Starting Strength) to 5x5 (Stronglifts). Opinions on possibly changing from powercleans to either barbell rows or more deadlifts, for workout A? (Workout B is deadlifts.)

 

Anyone doing Stronglifts want to share what their warmup is like?

 

I was only doing 5x5 with squats and I've been 'over warming up' lately, which means working up to a heavy single (not trying for a 1RM, so keeping it lighter than that and just doing something heavier than my work weight) before doing my work sets. Makes the work sets feel lighter and I get a little extra intensity work in. I've been doing similar things with bench and OHP, though the working up to the heavy single counts more as the actual lifting with 3x5 as 'back-off' sets for bench and 3x10 back-off sets for OHP. No real reason to do one back off set as fives and the other as tens; it's a hard call as to whether less volume at higher weights or more volume at lower ones is more helpful and probably depends on the goals.

[Choronodon]

I'm switching from 3x5 (Starting Strength) to 5x5 (Stronglifts). Opinions on possibly changing from powercleans to either barbell rows or more deadlifts, for workout A? (Workout B is deadlifts.)

 

Anyone doing Stronglifts want to share what their warmup is like?

 

I'm doing a routine kinda derived from both SS & SL:

 

Squats 5x5

OHP 5x5 (or) BP 5x5

DL 1x5

 

My warmup is usually http://www.nerdfitness.com/blog/2012/01/09/warm-up/, and for warmup sets I do something roughly like:

 

Squats

1x5 @ bar

1x5 @ 65

1x5 @ 85

1x5 @ 95

5x5 @ 110 (work weight)

 

BP & OHP are the same, I try for 3 - 4 warmup sets before my work weight

 

DL is the only one I don't warm up yet, I just do the 1x5 at whatever weight I'm up to. My plan is to start DL warmups sometime after I move beyond 135lb.

 

Hope all that is useful!

[SpecialSundae]

HEYYY!!

 

I'm back, my back's back, my form has been ripped to shreds and I've got a lot to work on.

 

My warm-up's pretty similar to Chronodon's, although I do some silly cardio stuff with Your Shape, kneeling clap push-ups and burpees instead of the NF warm-up. 

 

Trying to work out my goals for this time 'round. I should have started thinking about them before!

 

Thinking more strength, once a week Ashtanga yoga, a calorie goal (basically, not letting my calories drop too low because that totally screws me... if I'm under 1500 for two or more days I really feel it) and a positivity goal (find at least one positive achievement per week and write about it - even if it has to be deeply anonymised for the boards).

[Choronodon]

Burpees... *shudders* teh 3vil

[SpecialSundae]

Burpees... *shudders* teh 3vil

 

They're from the devil, but I'm still trying to do them more. 

[Barbarossa]

I'm switching from 3x5 (Starting Strength) to 5x5 (Stronglifts). Opinions on possibly changing from powercleans to either barbell rows or more deadlifts, for workout A? (Workout B is deadlifts.)

 

Anyone doing Stronglifts want to share what their warmup is like?

 

More of each move:  I do 5x70%, 5x80%, 5x90%, then the work sets.

[This is Seth]

Uhh, I'll tell you what my warm ups were for my Texas Method cycles... I haven't done SS or SL in a while, but I was still doing either 3x5 or 5x5 on my volume days for TM. 

 

2x5 @ the bar

1x5 @ 40%

1x3 @ 60%

1x3 @ 80%

5x5 @ 100%

[Brometheus]

Burpees... *shudders* teh 3vil

 

*nods*

 

What's worse is I was at crossfit regionals [as a spectator] today and they were doing burpee MUSCLE UPS. TEH 3VIL. 

[Gainsdalf the Whey]

Squat warm ups for me are something like:

135x10x2

225x8

275x5

315x5

Then sets of 3 in 30-50 lb jumps to my working sets.

Sent from my iPhone- please forgive length and autocorrects (yes, I'm blaming it on the phone).

[Endor]

And welcome wes! Been waiting for you to make the jump for a while. 

 

*...hands wes his Warrior badge and complimentary bucket o' bacon....*

 

Hi folks, I'm also joining you for this challenge as I've recently started lifting.

 

I'm following the Rebel Strength Guide at the moment, 3 weeks in. Also got SS to read as one of my challenge goals. I'm a complete beginner at lifting and have a lot to learn so I'll be keeping an eye on a few threads and asking some questions

 

If there's any spare bacon going it would do nicely for curing this hideous Sunday morning hangover.....

[PrincessHeather]

Burpees... *shudders* teh 3vil

They're from the devil, but I'm still trying to do them more. 

 

My crossfit coach's new favorite thing for warm ups is to turn on a song where certain words are repeated often and make us jog until the word is said and then drop and do a burpee. This wasn't so bad for Kelly Clarkson's "Stronger" but it was brutal with "Roxanne" by The Police.

[Rob__]

My crossfit coach's new favorite thing for warm ups is to turn on a song where certain words are repeated often and make us jog until the word is said and then drop and do a burpee. This wasn't so bad for Kelly Clarkson's "Stronger" but it was brutal with "Roxanne" by The Police.

 

The Roxanne Burpee game would probably be just as much death as the Roxanne drinking game...