Wolverine Posted July 17, 2013 Report Share Posted July 17, 2013 Now, how the hell do we calculate ab work??? I'm going with 50% of bodyweight. Too much you think? Wolverine Level X Mutant Link to comment
Croman Red Posted July 17, 2013 Author Report Share Posted July 17, 2013 I can see two ways to measure ab work. First, duration of sustained hold. 5 minutes of hollow body, that kind of thing. Second, sheer reps. You could also figure in the weight of your upper body for stuff like crunches (probably the same number as for push ups), but really? 1000 crunches speaks for itself. Turning it into poundage is both unnecessary and complicated. Save that for the easy stuff; exercises that involve iron. But if you're determined, from your photos, I would guess that your upper body accounts for about 40-45% of your body weight. Legs are dense with muscle mass. The upper body has a lot of hollow organs and comparatively small muscle groups to compare with the glutes, thighs, and calves. Unless you're a popsicle man, and then all bets are off. Cro Magnon Assassin "Hold my beer and watch this..." Link to comment
Wolverine Posted July 17, 2013 Report Share Posted July 17, 2013 I can see two ways to measure ab work. First, duration of sustained hold. 5 minutes of hollow body, that kind of thing. Second, sheer reps. You could also figure in the weight of your upper body for stuff like crunches (probably the same number as for push ups), but really? 1000 crunches speaks for itself. Turning it into poundage is both unnecessary and complicated. Save that for the easy stuff; exercises that involve iron. But if you're determined, from your photos, I would guess that your upper body accounts for about 40-45% of your body weight. Legs are dense with muscle mass. The upper body has a lot of hollow organs and comparatively small muscle groups to compare with the glutes, thighs, and calves. Unless you're a popsicle man, and then all bets are off. Since a lot of my work is without iron, I'm gonna make the extra effort to figure out the bodyweight stuff. If I were just tracking the iron I'd be leaving A LOT out. 40% it is! Wolverine Level X Mutant Link to comment
Croman Red Posted July 17, 2013 Author Report Share Posted July 17, 2013 Do a plank on your shoulders and your heels. Have your shoulders on the scale and have your wife read the measurement. Call that your crunch, sit up, whatever, weight. If you're doing dragon flags, go with 85% of your body weight. Your a smart guy, don't go with BS guestimations when you can narrow it down more. Your killing me with this!!! Cro Magnon Assassin "Hold my beer and watch this..." Link to comment
Wolverine Posted July 17, 2013 Report Share Posted July 17, 2013 Why plank from heel to shoulders? I wonder if I could rig a fish scale to measure the dragon flags? Wolverine Level X Mutant Link to comment
Croman Red Posted July 17, 2013 Author Report Share Posted July 17, 2013 Try a dragon flag with your shoulders on the scale. The fish scales would work for a negative... Cro Magnon Assassin "Hold my beer and watch this..." Link to comment
BlackWidowEowyn Posted July 18, 2013 Report Share Posted July 18, 2013 this is why keeping track of things drives me right over the edge GAHHHHHHH!! too many maths! BlackWidowEowynLvl 6 Hobbit Assassin"Obstacles can't stop you, problems can't stop you. Most of all, other people can't stop you. Only you can stop you. " – J. Gitomer"A vision of a champion is someone who is bent over drenched in sweat, at the point of exhaustion, when no one else is watching. "– Anson DorranceMy kick in the Pants, #1, #2, #3, #4, #5@missmajachere Link to comment
Wolverine Posted July 18, 2013 Report Share Posted July 18, 2013 this is why keeping track of things drives me right over the edge GAHHHHHHH!! too many maths! You think I should account for the fan being on or off? The breeze might affect the scale... Wolverine Level X Mutant Link to comment
Croman Red Posted July 18, 2013 Author Report Share Posted July 18, 2013 18 July 2013, Day 13 Joint Rotations 15 minStretch 20 min Dragon Flags 10 Weighted Crunches DL 10 10 kg = 550.00TR DL 10 x 2, 89 kg = 9790.00 Squats DL 10 89 kg = 4895.00 Shrugs DL 10 49 kg = 2695.00NGIB DL 10 39 kg = 2145.00 TPD DL 10 30kg = 1650.00 STP DL 10 14 kg = 550.00 Tons today 24.55Total kg 22,275.00 Lbs this week 247,657.96Total Lbs 49,107.96 Tons this week 123.82 Lbs/Min 892.87 Notes:55 minutes today.Felt the strong urge to whittle things down today in an effort to find the essentials. A bit off target on total tonnage, but clearly a more efficient set of exercises. Felt much better. Snatches are more of a skill, and many of the ditched exercises seemed redundant. The new ones seemed necessary for balance. Burpees just suck. Trying to find the sweet spot between working hard and working smart. Hard is easy, smart is not. Along with this will be some new experiments with rest days. Yesterday's seemed helpful. Cro Magnon Assassin "Hold my beer and watch this..." Link to comment
Croman Red Posted July 18, 2013 Author Report Share Posted July 18, 2013 You think I should account for the fan being on or off? The breeze might affect the scale... As I understand it, the air flow might reduce energy expended by you, but the weight is still the same. The lift provided by the fan is a freebie. Unless you can clock the wind speed. Then you might be able to calculate the degree of lift. I suppose the angle of the fan to your body would also be a consideration. To actually figure out the details you would probably have to get with Waldo, he's full of esoteric knowledge, right? And maybe BWE...she seems to dig this kind of problem:) Cro Magnon Assassin "Hold my beer and watch this..." Link to comment
Croman Red Posted July 18, 2013 Author Report Share Posted July 18, 2013 Why plank from heel to shoulders? I wonder if I could rig a fish scale to measure the dragon flags? Why a plank from heel to shoulders?1. I was thinking it would be more accurate than a shoulder-butt plank weight.2. I get a kick out of suggesting stupid/crazy ideas to you to see if you'll run with them:) Cro Magnon Assassin "Hold my beer and watch this..." Link to comment
BlackWidowEowyn Posted July 18, 2013 Report Share Posted July 18, 2013 *walks away shaking head mumbling*nuts with their numbers I wash my hands of this madnessNow if you would just be sensible and come do burpees with me.... BlackWidowEowynLvl 6 Hobbit Assassin"Obstacles can't stop you, problems can't stop you. Most of all, other people can't stop you. Only you can stop you. " – J. Gitomer"A vision of a champion is someone who is bent over drenched in sweat, at the point of exhaustion, when no one else is watching. "– Anson DorranceMy kick in the Pants, #1, #2, #3, #4, #5@missmajachere Link to comment
Croman Red Posted July 19, 2013 Author Report Share Posted July 19, 2013 19 July 2013, Day 14 Joint Rotations 15 minStretch 27 min Dragon Flags 10 Weighted Crunches, 10 kg x 10 reps + 10 sec hold x 20 sets = 2000 kgTR DL 89 kg x 10 reps + 10 sec hold x 20 sets = 17,800 kg Squats 89 kg x 10 reps + 10 sec hold x 20 sets 89 = 17,800 kg Shrugs 69 kg x 10 reps + 10 sec hold x 10 sets = 6900 kg NGIB 39 kg x 10 reps + 10 sec hold x 10 sets = 3900 kg TPD 35 kg x 10 reps + 10 sec hold x 10 sets = 3500 kg STP 16 kg x 10 reps + 10 sec hold x 10 sets = 1600 kg DBC 5 kg x 10 reps + so sec hold x 10 sets = 500 kg Tons today 60.07 Total kg 54,500 Lbs this week 367,207.58Total Lbs 120151.93 Tons this week 183.60 Lbs/Min 1560.41 Notes: 77 minutes today. Interesting results. Don't think I worked that much harder than yesterday, but I did work smarter. Changing the ladders to consecutive sets of 10 reps is more efficient (easier to do the math too!), and doubling up on the high value exercises like calf raises and squats really ups the poundage moved and minimizes time lost changing weights and configuring the rack. Starting to get noticeably thicker. Still need to burn a lot of fat off the waist. A work in progress. Cro Magnon Assassin "Hold my beer and watch this..." Link to comment
Croman Red Posted July 20, 2013 Author Report Share Posted July 20, 2013 *walks away shaking head mumbling*nuts with their numbers I wash my hands of this madnessNow if you would just be sensible and come do burpees with me.... People who do burpees are way more serious about their fitness than I am. Cro Magnon Assassin "Hold my beer and watch this..." Link to comment
Croman Red Posted July 21, 2013 Author Report Share Posted July 21, 2013 20 July 2013, Day 15; rest day 21 July 2013, Day 16 Joint Rotations 20 minStretch 22 min Dragon Flags 10 Weighted Crunches, 10 kg x 10 reps + 10 sec hold x 30 sets = 3000 kgTR DL 109 kg x 10 reps + 10 sec hold x 10 sets = 10,900 kg; 89 kg x 10 reps + 10 sec hold x 20 sets = 17,800 kgSquats 89 kg x 10 reps + 10 sec hold x 20 sets = 17,800 kg; 69 kg x 10 reps + 10 sec hold x 10 sets = 6,900 kgShrugs 89 kg x 10 reps + 10 sec hold x 10 sets = 8,900 kg; 69 kg x 10 reps + 10 sec hold x 10 sets = 6,900 kg; 49 kg x 10 reps + 10 sec hold x 10 sets = 4,900 kg NGIB 39 kg x 10 reps + 10 sec hold x 10 sets x = 3,900 kg TPD 35 kg x 10 reps + 10 sec hold x 10 sets = 3,500 kg STP 16 kg x 10 reps + 10 sec hold x 10 sets = 1,600 kg DBC 5 kg x 10 reps + 10 sec hold x 10 sets = 500 kg Total kg today 83,600Total lbs today 184,306.45lbs this week 184,306.45Tons today 92.15Tons this week 92.15 Lbs/Min 2047.84 Notes:90 minutes tonight. Still increasing the efficiency of my routine, which is improving my performance numbers-wise. Hard to say where that leaves off and adaptation begins. Just finished "Ultramarathon Man" by Dean Karnazes. This guy makes me look like a pillar of sanity. Very inspiring, and on point about what's going on in an ultra's head. Cro Magnon Assassin "Hold my beer and watch this..." Link to comment
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