JessFit Posted October 8, 2013 Report Share Posted October 8, 2013 But I'm an asshole (and majored in philosophy).Dying! That's too perfect! Hahaha I dated a philosopher once and it was simultaniously the best and wrost realtionship that I've ever had. I'm officially fond of you Warrior, Ravenclaw, book lover, history nerd, Red Sonja wannabe Current Challenge Battle Log Link to comment
AverageJoe Posted October 8, 2013 Report Share Posted October 8, 2013 I too am displeased with the bedside manner of most doctors. My Doc uses BMI like it's his bible and proceeds to tell me that all I have to do is take a leisurely ride on a stationary bike for 15 minutes 3x a week and the weight will melt off. Because that's what he does and he's 6 ft and maybe 160lbs soaking wet. No it couldn't be that my genetic makeup makes me DIFFERENT that I don't fit into his cookie cut diagnoses?!? Nope couldn't be that.I feel for you but don't let him get to you. Half/Ogre, Ranger Level 0STR: 0, Dex: 0, STA: 0, Con: 0, WIS: 0, CHA: 0 Link to comment
ravnos Posted October 8, 2013 Report Share Posted October 8, 2013 Dying! That's too perfect! Hahaha I dated a philosopher once and it was simultaniously the best and wrost realtionship that I've ever had. I'm officially fond of you Hahahaha thanks. I'm a special breed too, my focus is on Plato and 20th Century Continental Existentialism, so I'm oh so very broken.All of my relationships have simultaneously been the best and worst... I think I'm the connecting piece there. I too am displeased with the bedside manner of most doctors. My Doc uses BMI like it's his bible and proceeds to tell me that all I have to do is take a leisurely ride on a stationary bike for 15 minutes 3x a week and the weight will melt off. Because that's what he does and he's 6 ft and maybe 160lbs soaking wet. No it couldn't be that my genetic makeup makes me DIFFERENT that I don't fit into his cookie cut diagnoses?!? Nope couldn't be that.I feel for you but don't let him get to you. The last doctor I went to (10 years ago or so) was like that. I started explaining genetic body types and how I'm an mesomorph and he wasn't and he looked confused. Hence why I didn't go back. Level 5 Viking Berserker Str: 10 | Dex: 10 | Stam: 8 | Con: 15 | Wis: 18 | Cha: 12 Battle Log || Current Challenge Log Fitocracy | My Fitness Pal | Runkeeper Twitter | Xbox Live: ravnos13 | PSN: CrawlingChaos13 Nintendo ID | Steam ID | Battle.net: ravnos#1547 Link to comment
Teros Posted October 8, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 8, 2013 Thanks for all the words. I was really upset last night. Today is day 31- So it's offficially my cheat day. I have a few things I plan on eating today, but at the current rate (explained in a sec) I might not even finish the day. My Plan was this:Cheat Breakfast- some eggs + hash, and try 3 of my favorite cookies Early brunch thingy- a small ham and cheese calzone and a yellow cake roll. Lunch- some chinese Dinner- a pizza. ----So it's 10 am right now. I went to whole foods and got the eggs with hash, and the 3 cookies, and I also picked up the calzone and yellow cake roll--- Ate the eggs, didn't like the hash.Ate the cookies- I HATED ALL OF THEM. My precious black +white cookie was GROSS.Ate the calzone- It was gross too. It was very uh....dense? It was thick in my mouth, like I had paste in my mouth or something. The ham in it was good. I felt that sugar ache in the back of my jaw when I was eating it. It was sweet? It just felt really weird. I didn't like it. Had 1 bite of the yellow cake roll. The chocolate frosting on it felt slimey and the jimmys felt like ants. I made a face to my g/f. "This isn't chocolate, is it?" It doesn't taste like chocolate. I swear to god. I have no idea WHAT this is, but it's not a cake roll. ------ 15 minutes later-------I hurt. My eyes are throbbing out of my head. I have a slight headache, and my stomach hurts. I feel extrememly tired even though I got a good night's sleep. Holy %@#*, is this was 'normal' food does to me now? I feel like I need to finish today and document it for others and for my future self when I think take-out is a good idea. I can't beleive I feel this aweful after some eggs+hash, 3 cookies, and a tiny calzone. I used to eat like 3 times that on cheat meals. I already feel like I'm done with today. I want to sleep and then pretend this morning never happened. I will post more as the day progresses. I seriously don't think that's chocolate. I think I hate chocolate now and I used to be a candy fiend that could eat en entire bag of kit-kats in 1 sitting. Link to comment
JessFit Posted October 8, 2013 Report Share Posted October 8, 2013 Crazy how our bodies adjust when we give them what they need. Good luck with the cheat day, don't make yourself feel too terrible! Warrior, Ravenclaw, book lover, history nerd, Red Sonja wannabe Current Challenge Battle Log Link to comment
Jonesy Posted October 8, 2013 Report Share Posted October 8, 2013 That is why I'm a little scared for day 31. I have it all planned out on what I will eat in my reintroduction phase but I really don't want to feel like crap or know that my favorite meals are gross now. Good luck experimenting with the rest of your food. Fitocracy GoodReads MyFitnessPal Spoiler Previous Challenges: 2020: 1.20 - 2019: 1.19 l 2.19 2018: 1.18 l 2.18 l 3.18 l 4.18 l 5.18 l 6.18 l 7.18 2017: 1.17 I 2.17 I 3.17 I 4.17 I 5.17 l 6.17 l 7.17 l 8.17 I 9.17 l 10.17 2016: 1.16 l 2.16 l DA v.1 l DA v.2 I DA v.2 Reloaded I DA v.3 I DA v.4 I 8.16 I 9.16 I DA v.5 I 11.16 2012: 1 2013: 2 l 3 l 4 l 5 l 6 l 7 l 8 2014: 9 l 10 l Not Done Yet l Time to Conquer l Conquering HFC for Life! Link to comment
wstallone Posted October 8, 2013 Report Share Posted October 8, 2013 Ok I am sure someone has said this already but Muscle weighs more than fat. I took on the same approach as you I stopped using my weight as a reference on how well i was doing and Started using body measurements and how I feel. Keep it up man Level 2: Half-Orc AdventurerSTR 4 | DEX 3 | STA 2 | CON 2 | WIS 2 | CHA 3"If everyone has a Demon in them, then mine loves dead-lifts." Who am I? wstalloneWho is helping me? Meet the RPG Fanatics!Current Challenge: Challenge 2: The Circus of Circuits Link to comment
Swampling Posted October 8, 2013 Report Share Posted October 8, 2013 I have never done a complete detox as in Whole30, but I have drastically reduced the amounts of sugar and processed foods. After a couple of weeks I noticed something similar: most of the candy now just tastes yucky, purely chemical. I can't eat most of the chocolate anymore, I feel most comfortable with cocoa contents of somewhere between 60% and 75%, and don't like the additives, even vanilla aroma now tastes kind of strange. Hobbit Challenges: 14 | 13 | 12 | 11 | 10 | 9 | 8 | 7 | 6 | 5 | 4 | 3 | 2 | 1My shiny new "battle" log - probably more of a plodding-along log, but hey, it's mine! Link to comment
Teros Posted October 8, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 8, 2013 2:30. I haven't had anything else. I just don't feel good still. This is rubbish. I'm ditching the chinese as much as I've craved it the past couple weeks. G/f and I MAY get a pizza but we'll see. eggs, hash, small calzone, and 3 cookies should NOT have this much of an effect for this long. I just wanna play as my thrower without feeling like I'm full of cement. Link to comment
Tateman Posted October 8, 2013 Report Share Posted October 8, 2013 It might have been too much too quick. I was ok with good quality pizza that I had in Reno. I haven't tried anything like the Little Caesars here. They were not that good when I was eating "normal" stuff I haven't tried cake yet. for my birthday I might have some though. Tateland.com, Instagram, Fitbit Link to comment
Teros Posted October 9, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 9, 2013 Pizza is the worst food in the world. I have banished it from this realm. Going to bed early. I think I'm restarting whole 30 tomorrow. Ughhhhhhh Link to comment
Mad Hatter Posted October 9, 2013 Report Share Posted October 9, 2013 A bit late to the party, but YAAY you did it! It seems like you've been adding a few too many things at once though... In pizza you could have several culprits, maybe instead of trying and then banishing everything at once you could do some digging to see whether you might have a gluten or lactose intolerance? Link to comment
GingaNinja Posted October 9, 2013 Report Share Posted October 9, 2013 I agree with Mad Hatter and Tateman. They say you need to give the reintroduction the same attention as The Whole 30 because then you can identify what it is that is setting you off with bad reactions. Maybe just do a whole 7/14 and try again with re-introduction protocol? Be More Ninja Current Challenge Instagram Link to comment
Teros Posted October 9, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 9, 2013 I'll eventually reintroduce legumes, some cheese, and some breadcrumbs. Besides that, I think I'd rather just stick 99% to the whole 30 as possible. I had a banana lara bar this morning and I felt a huge difference. The results and how I feel just can't be ignored. I WILL be banishing pizza from the realm. I'd rather have a horrible experience and never want it again instead of easing it back into my diet. It shouldn't be there and it's gross. I want some cheese on my eggs, my butterbean chicken soup, and some fried chicken strips with mushrooms in the near future. Besides that; I'm really going to stick with the whole 30. I think I'm going to do a cheat day on the monthly holidays. So next 'cheat' will be on halloween, where I'll have some of my homemade cookies (candy corn fudge drops, butterscotch bats, coconut date rolls, pumpkin apple softies). Next will be xmas, then new years, valentine's day etc. Link to comment
Teros Posted October 9, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 9, 2013 Mini Challenge #4 is up so... * Decide on 3 healthy recipes you can cook with ingredients found in your cupboard, that take minimal effort to cook (when you're "too tired" or there's "nothing in the fridge")* Some low calorie frozen meals you can cache for emergencies, that actually look kinda tasty (when you're too sick to cook, or you hear pizza calling your name)* A backup fitness plan of bodyweight exercises (for when it's raining/snowing/cold/the kids have been puking all day and you couldn't get to the gym)* 2 healthy long-life handbag/desk drawer snacks to have on standby (so there's an option other than chips or soda when you have a snack attack)* Ask a friend to be someone you can call to talk to about fitness problems (when you're about to emotionally crumble, or need support in your goals)* Install a computer program that locks you out of net browsing for a certain period of time (so you don't get distracted when you need to focus on work or important tasks)* Prepping clothes for working out/gardening/jogging the night before (so there's no "I can't find my stuff" delays the next day)* Removing binge-tempting foods from the house (so it's an effort to snack, instead of easy)* Purchase (or cook) a sauce or dressing that you can use a tbsp. of to jazz up boring vegetables (condiments are our friends) For this challenge, pick at least one weak point you think you might need to address, so you're prepared for when things get tough, and make a plan to help you get through it. If you're totally stuck, then post your most problematic challenge or possible challenge to you achieving your goals, and ask others for help in ways to face it better through advance preparation. (You can do that in this thread, or in your own challenge thread) Reward: +1 WIS (when you've posted your preparation plan in this thread) -The only things in my cupboard are a few whole 30 items, and that's all I've ben eating for about a month. I don't think there really is any type of backup plan that can be had.-same-Backup fitness plan is the one I do at home since I've made a home gym with a warhammer, tractor tire, sand jugs, etc. If I can't walk 15 feet to my room, there's a problem.-Backup snack has been lara bar or cashews, raisins, and prunes. Check.-talking about fitness problems. That's what I do on here and I think I've got it all under control. This site is the best, and has the best people.-computer program- This, idk. Maybe?-I don't have a big living space. All my clothes and shoes are right next to my bed. Nothing like that is ever lost. I even have a bowl for my wallet, keys, ds, cell phone, comb, etc.-all binging foods were removed before the whole 30. There's literally nothing to tempt me here.-sauce to jazz up food. If I KNEW of such a thing on the whole 30, I would have bought it by now. I don't think I can do this one. so... I guess I'm totally stuck. My one weak point is probably procrastination for doing my stretches. I always think that they don't help me (although they DO) and so I put it off constantly. I tried to do stretching last challenge just ONCE a week and I was barely able to do so. So, I guess I'll ask you guys about that. How do I stop procrastinating with stretching? Link to comment
ravnos Posted October 9, 2013 Report Share Posted October 9, 2013 Mini Challenge #4 is up so... -The only things in my cupboard are a few whole 30 items, and that's all I've ben eating for about a month. I don't think there really is any type of backup plan that can be had.-same-Backup fitness plan is the one I do at home since I've made a home gym with a warhammer, tractor tire, sand jugs, etc. If I can't walk 15 feet to my room, there's a problem.-Backup snack has been lara bar or cashews, raisins, and prunes. Check.-talking about fitness problems. That's what I do on here and I think I've got it all under control. This site is the best, and has the best people.-computer program- This, idk. Maybe?-I don't have a big living space. All my clothes and shoes are right next to my bed. Nothing like that is ever lost. I even have a bowl for my wallet, keys, ds, cell phone, comb, etc.-all binging foods were removed before the whole 30. There's literally nothing to tempt me here.-sauce to jazz up food. If I KNEW of such a thing on the whole 30, I would have bought it by now. I don't think I can do this one. so... I guess I'm totally stuck. My one weak point is probably procrastination for doing my stretches. I always think that they don't help me (although they DO) and so I put it off constantly. I tried to do stretching last challenge just ONCE a week and I was barely able to do so. So, I guess I'll ask you guys about that. How do I stop procrastinating with stretching? Find a few basic stretches that go full body and set them like you would your workout routine. Then, just do them after every work out, or every day if you prefer. Think of it LIKE working out. Level 5 Viking Berserker Str: 10 | Dex: 10 | Stam: 8 | Con: 15 | Wis: 18 | Cha: 12 Battle Log || Current Challenge Log Fitocracy | My Fitness Pal | Runkeeper Twitter | Xbox Live: ravnos13 | PSN: CrawlingChaos13 Nintendo ID | Steam ID | Battle.net: ravnos#1547 Link to comment
Elastigirl Posted October 10, 2013 Report Share Posted October 10, 2013 Just found your thread. I did sledgehammer training all last spring and summer. Now I do some other stuff, but I still bring out the sledgehammer sometimes, cause I love it. Today I did the shovelglove circuit combine with some Kettlebell swings for 10 min of torture/fun. One thing that is awesome is that it is just as much of a workout as it was last summer, because now I have more intensity with my swing and just hold the hammer lower on the handle. I have nicknamed mine Gradthar's Hammer http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJ3_u3lxr7c Wisdom 22.5 Dexterity 13 Charisma 15 Strength 21 Constitution-13 "Love the Lord your God with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your strength, and with all your mind' Luke 10; 27 Link to comment
Teros Posted October 10, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 10, 2013 what weight hammer did you use? Link to comment
Mad Hatter Posted October 10, 2013 Report Share Posted October 10, 2013 -sauce to jazz up food. If I KNEW of such a thing on the whole 30, I would have bought it by now. I don't think I can do this one. I'm sure you'll struggle with buying stuff but what about making your own? At the top of my head you could make chutneys, salsas and pico de gallo, vinaigrettes, Mediterranean style tomato based sauces, pesto, gravy (though you might have to find a compliant thickener)... Loads of things. Link to comment
Elastigirl Posted October 10, 2013 Report Share Posted October 10, 2013 what weight hammer did you use?hmmm, not remembering. The littlest one they have- I think just 10 lbs? I thought I'd get a bigger one, but so far, this one is a good size. I hold it down lower, so I have less leverage than when I first started. And I think I have more of a swing now. Wisdom 22.5 Dexterity 13 Charisma 15 Strength 21 Constitution-13 "Love the Lord your God with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your strength, and with all your mind' Luke 10; 27 Link to comment
GingaNinja Posted October 10, 2013 Report Share Posted October 10, 2013 I'll eventually reintroduce legumes, some cheese, and some breadcrumbs. Besides that, I think I'd rather just stick 99% to the whole 30 as possible. I had a banana lara bar this morning and I felt a huge difference. The results and how I feel just can't be ignored. I WILL be banishing pizza from the realm. I'd rather have a horrible experience and never want it again instead of easing it back into my diet. It shouldn't be there and it's gross. I want some cheese on my eggs, my butterbean chicken soup, and some fried chicken strips with mushrooms in the near future. Besides that; I'm really going to stick with the whole 30. I think I'm going to do a cheat day on the monthly holidays. So next 'cheat' will be on halloween, where I'll have some of my homemade cookies (candy corn fudge drops, butterscotch bats, coconut date rolls, pumpkin apple softies). Next will be xmas, then new years, valentine's day etc. Sounds good, I didn't meant to re-introduce them permanently I think it's good to stick as Whole30 as possible into you bump into something down the road you want to indulge in. Rather like they say in the book reintroducing things one at a time to see how each effects you then further down the road it you know what is going to trigger a bad reaction! Sorry to hear about your pizza experience but glad to hear you are feeling pumped to carry on and banish it. I never really had any bad reactions to food post Whole 30, well physically, I am sure they still stressed my body. I notice I can taste the sugar in things more and oats make me pretty bloated. Be More Ninja Current Challenge Instagram Link to comment
otter905 Posted October 10, 2013 Report Share Posted October 10, 2013 Just a thought, I found after my Whole 30 that "restaurant" pizza made me feel sick, but I buy a thin crust frozen pizza that doesn't bother me. The "restaurant" pizza I buy is a thick crust. So while I fully support you banishing pizza from the realm,it might be worh a try the next time you are willing to kill for a slice of pizza. My self-worth, beauty, strength, and overall awesomeness is not defined by numbers. 12STR 13.75CON 5STA 12WIS 14CHA 6DEX 1 fire flowerCurrent Challenge #8 #7 #6 #5 Unofficial #4 #3 #2 "It's only impossible if you stop to think about it first." -The Pirate Captian Link to comment
Teros Posted October 10, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 10, 2013 hmmm, not remembering. The littlest one they have- I think just 10 lbs? I thought I'd get a bigger one, but so far, this one is a good size. I hold it down lower, so I have less leverage than when I first started. And I think I have more of a swing now. I changed the leverage as well, but as I also kept doing more reps- I wasn't feeling any type of burn. I was using a 10 pound sledgehammer (lowest weight) but I decided to hunt around for the highest weight sledgehammer. It turns out that no hardware store (checked 10 of them) carrys more than 14 pounds. Then when I went online, they sell 20 pound ones but only construction workers are able to weild them effectivly. So.... I bought one and now it's my Warhammer. Massive difference. When I do reps, I actually feel my abs insinctivly tightening to help swing the hammer. At the top of my head you could make chutneys, salsas and pico de gallo, vinaigrettes, Mediterranean style tomato based sauces, pesto, gravy (though you might have to find a compliant thickener)... Loads of things. Yeah, I'm not very food savy but I guess I would try doing something like that. Dressing is pretty easy so I should try making my own. Just a thought, I found after my Whole 30 that "restaurant" pizza made me feel sick, but I buy a thin crust frozen pizza that doesn't bother me. The "restaurant" pizza I buy is a thick crust. So while I fully support you banishing pizza from the realm,it might be worh a try the next time you are willing to kill for a slice of pizza. Sorry to hear about your pizza experience but glad to hear you are feeling pumped to carry on and banish it. I never really had any bad reactions to food post Whole 30, well physically, I am sure they still stressed my body. I notice I can taste the sugar in things more and oats make me pretty bloated. Yeah, when I banish something it's because it was so gross that I never should want it again. In all honesty, 'never' means about a year or so. I banished lemon barbs and hot weinies, burger king, mcdonalds, and wendys about 4 months ago- still have no intention of eating them again. I'd rather have a horrible experience and link that with certain foods so I don't crave them. It works. Kind of like how people have thier kids get drunk and then hate alcohol when they're young. They use conditioning to equate alcohol=the side effects. Same type of idea here. Link to comment
Teros Posted October 10, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 10, 2013 Find a few basic stretches that go full body and set them like you would your workout routine. Then, just do them after every work out, or every day if you prefer. Think of it LIKE working out.That's my problem. I know I should stretch after my workout, but I'm so dead tired that the last thing on my mind is to lay on the ground and do different stretches. Link to comment
Jonesy Posted October 10, 2013 Report Share Posted October 10, 2013 I think you are thinking too much with the stretching. To me, stretching is a cool down, bring down my heart rate, calm myself, to relax a little, it's not another workout. A good way to get stretching in is to add 5 mins to your workout for stretches. Do whatever you feel like you need to do, they don't have to be complicated. When I get done with my workout, I set my phone alarm for 5 mins, then I stretch areas that I know need stretching. My stretches are different every time. I think the key to stretching for you is finding what motivates you to get it in. Good Luck Fitocracy GoodReads MyFitnessPal Spoiler Previous Challenges: 2020: 1.20 - 2019: 1.19 l 2.19 2018: 1.18 l 2.18 l 3.18 l 4.18 l 5.18 l 6.18 l 7.18 2017: 1.17 I 2.17 I 3.17 I 4.17 I 5.17 l 6.17 l 7.17 l 8.17 I 9.17 l 10.17 2016: 1.16 l 2.16 l DA v.1 l DA v.2 I DA v.2 Reloaded I DA v.3 I DA v.4 I 8.16 I 9.16 I DA v.5 I 11.16 2012: 1 2013: 2 l 3 l 4 l 5 l 6 l 7 l 8 2014: 9 l 10 l Not Done Yet l Time to Conquer l Conquering HFC for Life! Link to comment
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