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Kanjigirl, Still Clawing Her Way Toward the First Marathon


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I may need help with this...

 

My first marathon is on January 12. I've been training (first Higdon, then switched to Galloway) since July. But I'm off my schedule badly because of (1) the flu from October 17-22 and (2) a sprained ankle on October 24. 

 

Main Quest:

 

Get back on track with long runs. I've poured myself into this marathon for months, and I want to get there in reasonably good shape to have the best chance of finishing. Alive. And comfortable enough to enjoy my hard-earned vacation at Disney World, which will be my reward.

 

Goal #1:

 

Be very, very careful.

 

No stepping off leaf-covered sidewalks. No illnesses. No running/walking on icy mornings. Get a flu shot tomorrow. Stay away from coughing people.

 

Goal #2:

 

Maximize my mid-week short runs and rest time. Easy, fun runs during the week. 

 

I know that rest is more important than the actual running. I'll be more conscious of what I do with those rest days and include yoga and walking on the off days to keep moving, gently.

 

Goal #3:

 

A little more cross-training. One pool run or one spin bike session each week in addition to the three runs - also, 1-2 strength training sessions at the gym or at home per week. I've been doing this sporadically but need to make it a habit.

 

Side Quest: 

 

Hit 160. I'm at 166.6 today.

 

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Bonus round: If something else happens (strep throat, a broken toe, etc.) I want to have the good graces and sense to downgrade to the half marathon and run it happily without feeling like I failed. I can't control viruses and bacteria and every little risk related to running no matter how much I try...

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Hi Kanjigirl!  Glad to see you back!  So sorry to hear about your ankle.  I ended up sitting out my Half due to a similar injury (I was supposed to have run it last night :neglected: ).  I'm glad you have time to get on track after your injury, though.  Be careful out there!

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Oh - that sucks. I'm sorry. Is it something that will improve quickly? Do you plan to shoot for another half soon?

 

And are you doing the new challenge so I can follow you?

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I was out of running for two weeks due to stepping off my front porch and rolling my right ankle to the ground in the leaves on Oct. 24, after having the flu the weekend before. Don't get me wrong, I'm overjoyed it was only two weeks, but I'm off my schedule now.

 

Today I did a 6-miler, the longest run I've had since October 5. It was hard, much harder than I expected. Usually six-milers are pretty fun and comfortable now, and faster than I felt like I could stand today. My ankle's feeling pretty stable, but I do get some tweaking sharp pains occasionally when I'm just standing around. My stupid plantar fasciitis is about as bad as it ever was too, but that I can take as I'm used to it.

 

Still wearing the ankle boot until my physical therapist says to take it off. It's not wonderful, but it does the job and is reasonably comfy.

 

Still doing all my icing and stretching and foot/ankle/calf strengtheners very religiously. And I didn't lay off the two weeks I missed, I ran in the pool and did the spin bike very carefully with the ankle boot on.

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I’m trying to figure out if I can get in enough long runs between now and my taper to make this marathon happen... I think I might, as long as nothing else happens to me. The chart below shows my runs (blue) vs. the plan runs (red). You can see my calf strain around week 7, the flu on week 16 and the ankle starting on week 17. I'm a bundle of problems... The nodes in green are what I think I can do from now to the race.

 

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Oh - that sucks. I'm sorry. Is it something that will improve quickly? Do you plan to shoot for another half soon?

 

And are you doing the new challenge so I can follow you?

My orthopedic specialist says it is "post-tibial tendon dysfunction", basically an overuse injury from running with flat feet.  I did several weeks of physical therapy and wore an air cast for a month, without any major improvement.  I can do everyday stuff just fine, but he says I'll probably never run again.  :nonchalance:   I don't know if I buy that, but I'm taking my fitness in another direction for now, anyway.  Life is pretty crazy right now with new job, possible move, holidays, etc.  So, I'm hanging out with the monks guild, focusing on diet this challenge with some yoga/stretching/flexibility work thrown in when I can.  I'll probably ultimately move over to the assassins, since I'm leaning toward gymnastic type workouts.  I just like hanging out with the monks better, because it's a smaller guild and I have friends there.  The assassins guild is huge, and I think I would get lost in the shuffle.

 

As to your revised plan, I haven't run anything longer than a 15K ever, so I don't really know what it takes to run a marathon.  bgvanbur runs crazy distances, though, so he might be a good resource to ask if you visit his thread.  Nevermind.  I went to find you the link and saw you have been there already....

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Hmm, not sure about the diagnosis, but I have pretty flat feet that were hurt by trying out a series of shoes that didn't support them well (I was told this is how I got the plantar fasciitis). More supportive shoes helped, but going off in a new direction is sometimes the best thing to do. Good luck with the monks!

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It's interesting, but going barefoot cured my plantar fascitis and my knee pain, but doc suspects it worsened the tendon dysfunction.  He recommended (reeeeeeally expensive) custom inserts if I wanted to attempt running again at all.  I dunno.  I really loved the barefoot/minimalist shoe thing.  Maybe I can split the difference with a zero-drop, some support shoe or something.  Or maybe I tried to push too much too soon with the barefoot mileage.  I'm sure I'll attempt running again sometime, but I'm putting it aside for now.

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I went ahead and moved this from the previous challenge to the current challenge, seemed like it might get along better there. Good luck with the marathon training!

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I went ahead and moved this from the previous challenge to the current challenge, seemed like it might get along better there. Good luck with the marathon training!

 

Oops. Thanks!

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Did this yoga workout this afternoon, plus some lunges and side lunges (as prescribed by the physical therapist) for the ankle.

 

Not very sore at all from yesterday (but my shoulders and arms are still sore from the boxing session on Saturday). Tomorrow is a 30-minute run, then I have a few hours of meetings scheduled. Joy.

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Good luck, that is an awfully steep cliff to climb in the training runs.  Listen to your body very carefully through December.  Those long runs get exponentially more difficult, not linearly.  I don't want to be a downer, but the realist in me is speaking up.  If you push too hard to make up those distances and your body doesn't cooperate, you won't even be able to do the half with some over-use or stress injury.  I am not saying it is unattainable, but remember that ache/burn you recover from, stab and pop you stop.  I pushed through a marathon and a half iron-man this year with a torn meniscus.  A.) it hurt (alot), B.) it is making the recovery that much harder.  Remember there is always next year.  That said, go give er hell and run a 26.2!

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Good luck, that is an awfully steep cliff to climb in the training runs.  Listen to your body very carefully through December.  Those long runs get exponentially more difficult, not linearly.  I don't want to be a downer, but the realist in me is speaking up.  If you push too hard to make up those distances and your body doesn't cooperate, you won't even be able to do the half with some over-use or stress injury.  I am not saying it is unattainable, but remember that ache/burn you recover from, stab and pop you stop.  I pushed through a marathon and a half iron-man this year with a torn meniscus.  A.) it hurt (alot), B.) it is making the recovery that much harder.  Remember there is always next year.  That said, go give er hell and run a 26.2!

 

I know it's a steep cliff. I'm going to take it one run at a time, see how the 12-miler goes this weekend. Worst-case scenario, I downgrade and do the half on Jan. 11. I'm not opposed to that if I have to go that way. And the half would be so easy this time...

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This morning I actually got up before the snooze alarm went off twice (!) and got dressed to go run in the 29F fog. It was really foggy, very pretty on the Spring Creek Trail today. 

 

I did 30 minutes at tempo-ish pace (around 12:00), 2.5 miles. My cadence was a little slow at 162, generally it's about 165 now. But it was okay, the ankle and heel felt okay.

 

However, the heel is sore now because I was either in meetings or driving all day just sitting around. I'll be hitting the golf ball for the foot shortly and will do some foam-rolling and Stick tonight while we watch TV.

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I love cold weather runs.  (Hate running in summer).  Your cold, foggy run sounds AWESOME.

 

It was very pretty out there - I only saw one other runner. Usually there are quite a few at that time of morning.

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I saw the physical therapist again, he told me to try my half-hour run tomorrow on the treadmill without the ankle boot. Yay! I hope it goes well... I get to run from zombies before work :)

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Missed that run, my right foot was still pretty sore. On Saturday I was in Denver for a conference from 8:30 to 5:30 but did go for a nice walk during lunch. My foot was feeling better, so this morning I decided to go for the 12-mile long run on the treadmill at the gym.

 

I took the ankle boot just in case but I didn't need it, the ankle seemed nice and stable, and the foot didn't hurt. I took 2 Gu with me (and had one before leaving the house). 

 

It wasn't easy but I did it in 2:32, walking every 7th minute. I had the treadmill speed down at 4.6 so I could do a short quick stride, but it was still a little faster than I would normally do a long run, 12:42 average pace (should be about 13:15). I felt pretty comfortable, but my heel (plantar fasciitis left foot) started hurting more about halfway through.

 

After I finished the heel was throbbing, I did the golf ball and a lot of stretching of the calf and it's a bit better. Ibuprofen too. 

 

The ankle felt okay during the run. When I was doing stretches and reached to grab it to do a quad stretch, it hurt - a lot. It's still very tender to touch in certain spots even though it feels normally stable. I'll be icing it again tonight.

 

Happy to have done this long run after a month of missing them, but I'm not confident about the marathon now. I really need like 4 more long runs but I only have time to fit two in...

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The pressure goes *poof* !

 

This has been a day of interesting emotional swings... this morning I heard back from RunDisney that they don't allow transfers to other races, period.

 

That actually made me cry a bit, after all this work since June... I was given the choice of deferring to next year or running the marathon even though I knew I have no chance to finish. I called my husband and he told me to not do anything rash and to calm down.

 

So I wrote them back about our vacation plan, the fact that this was my first marathon, etc. Two hours later I got another email from them: since we had booked our week-long trip through them at the same time I registered for the race they decided to grant an exception and move me to the half.

 

So so happy!

 

The pressure is off. I'm feeling bad about missing the big race, but I can do one later in the year. Now I can concentrate my remaining training time on shorter runs (14 miles will be the longest and I've already gone further than that), less pounding, and finishing the half in a respectable time. Whew.

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Oh, I hope you feel better soon ...

 

Just reminds me, from what I heard it's better not to mix ibuprofen and sports drinks in a long run, this can be dangerous ...

 

http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2013/aug/30/brighton-marathon-runner-reaction-supplements

 

Thanks for the link, that's good to know... I don't take ibuprofen during any races, and I mix water and sports drinks or alternate them to avoid the over-hydration issue that's becoming more widely known.

 

http://www.newyorkmarathon.org/preventing-hyponatremia-by-maintaining-proper-electrolytes-levels-and-avoiding-over-hydration-or-under-hydration

 

But I'll start making sure I don't take it within 6-8 hours after either.

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