Snakes continuing journey to be a novahot decker

[drunkensnake]

Hello again! This is my second challenge in my continuing (or it may seem never-ending) quest to be shaped less like a potato. As a Cube (software developer for non shodowrunny people) I am sedentary at work, and since I love to code, and do it at home (working on a website and a videogame, and other projects that seem interesting, as well as gaming) I am largely sedentary there as well so I spread, talk about the battle of the bulge, but..to business!

 

MAIN QUEST

 

 Get under 200 pounds and following that, I'd like to actually put on some muscle and look better just in general (sure my wife would appreciate this)

 

SUPPORTING QUESTS

 

- Strength train 3x a week, I actually ran across this heavily modified version of the 300 challenge for more....n00b1s# exercisers like myself, I can post if anyone is interested

               Hit 3 main lifts 3x a week, can be done with bodyweight at home, push pull and leg, i.e. b/w rows pushups b/w squats,(STR-5)

- Cardio training 3x 2x a week alternate with strength training but aim for 3 if I hit 3 more often than not...I may buy myself the light up Iron Man Arc reactor shirt because it is awesome,  HIIT seems way better to me, I have a terrible attention span and get bored running or biking, plus a good HIIT session is only 10-30 min MAX yay for efficiency!! (END-3 DEX-2 [since it will improve sprint ability])

-Consciously continue improving my diet try to limit myself to 2 starches a day MAX (CON - 3)

 

LIFE QUEST

 

Get my website up! I have the framework I want sketched out, I just need to code it up and deploy it, I'm paying for hosting I should use it (CHA - 2)

Get my website started! I have the framework I want sketched out, I just need to code it up and deploy it. Get the Index page and one of the 2 blogs started (it's a fairly large website, one blog is for little research projects I do like how humanity would fair against real vampires, and the other is just for general nerdy observations like what I learned about life from comic books) and start on my dev diary about the game I'm making when normal people should sleep (I never get what I would actually called tired, I just stay up until I'm like "Meh I guess I'll go lay down, I could probably sleep if I tried" bugs the shit outta my wife)  I'm paying for hosting I should use it (CHA - 2)

 

MOTIVATION

 

Much like Louis C.K., I look at my body and think "yuck" I'm sure my wife feels the same and I would like to fix that, plus...I jiggle when I brush my teeth...it isn't attractive. We are throwing a pool party for my daughter's birthday this year, I want to make the other mom's jealous of my wife...vanity!

 

BACKGROUND

 

I'm 5'10" and i weigh around 212, it's actually down from 220 (at the end of the last challenge I was 209...but slacked off for a couple weeks for shame on me) plus I'm a horrible physical specimen. If anyone else watches Revolution (great show) you know about Aaron, who is the worst guy to be in an apocalypse, out of shape, his skills are all now useless, and he can't fight...I don't want to be Aaron..I need to at least be in good enough shape to help defend the township (Able township hee hee...too bad it isn't as good for HIIT as I was hoping it might be)

[Teros]

just enjoy the doughnut....

 

Hey, vanity is important too. As long as you're working towards the best version of yourself.

 

What was your workout previous to the start of the challenge?  If you were working out 0-1 times a week and now you're attempting 6 times a week, your body will not be able to handle it after about 2 weeks.  Trust me, I've seen 100 threads where this happens and it's happened to myself.  It's better off to tackle diet mostly, and do slow incremental exercise changes.

 

If you were working out 4+ times a week previous to this challenge, then 6x a week is doable. If less, I'd strongly advise toning it down a bit.

 

I personally do a sledgehammer workout 2-3 times a week and that's been enough to drop 4 pants sizes in the past few months.  Diet is 80% of the battle. Exercise is 20%.

[sylph]

In on this.

HIIT can be brutally efficient if you do it right. You can also burn yourself out right quick if you aren't careful. It's fun to find the right balance.

And I imagine you're right that Zombies Run wouldn't be too good for that style of training... you can't hear the zombie horde if you're using most of your attention to breathe!

When's your daughter's birthday?

[drunkensnake]

When's your daughter's birthday?

End of May, so I'm thinking 3 challenges off :-p

[drunkensnake]

Hey, vanity is important too. As long as you're working towards the best version of yourself.

 

What was your workout previous to the start of the challenge?  If you were working out 0-1 times a week and now you're attempting 6 times a week, your body will not be able to handle it after about 2 weeks.  Trust me, I've seen 100 threads where this happens and it's happened to myself.  It's better off to tackle diet mostly, and do slow incremental exercise changes.

 

If you were working out 4+ times a week previous to this challenge, then 6x a week is doable. If less, I'd strongly advise toning it down a bit.

 

I personally do a sledgehammer workout 2-3 times a week and that's been enough to drop 4 pants sizes in the past few months.  Diet is 80% of the battle. Exercise is 20%.

I was doing 6 before but my cardio was primarily endurance based 30-45 minutes on the bike, that's where my big change is going to be, as long as I have something keeping me accountable (Like the wonderful fellow nerds here) then I don't really have a problem, it's when no one is watching me that I slack off lol

[Teros]

well if you're interested, I made an accountability group:

http://rebellion.nerdfitness.com/index.php?/topic/42038-rpg-fanatics-guild-new-year/

[TennisGeek]

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MOTIVATION

 

Much like Louis C.K., I look at my body and think "yuck" I'm sure my wife feels the same and I would like to fix that, plus...I jiggle when I brush my teeth...it isn't attractive. We are throwing a pool party for my daughter's birthday this year, I want to make the other mom's jealous of my wife...vanity!

 

BACKGROUND

 

I'm 5'10" and i weigh around 212, it's actually down from 220 (at the end of the last challenge I was 209...but slacked off for a couple weeks for shame on me) plus I'm a horrible physical specimen. If anyone else watches Revolution (great show) you know about Aaron, who is the worst guy to be in an apocalypse, out of shape, his skills are all now useless, and he can't fight...I don't want to be Aaron..I need to at least be in good enough shape to help defend the township (Able township hee hee...too bad it isn't as good for HIIT as I was hoping it might be)

 

I'm 5' 9" and used to be 200ish.

I was 188 last May. I went down to 165 in 4 months, so I lost 1.5lb/week pace after discovering low carb/paleo.

I lost much faster than calorie counting. (calories are not created equal at all.)

I'm pretty active, but I was pretty active at 200lbs as well. As terosx says, it's food.

 

And, mind you, I started writing software before you are born. I'm over 50 so you may be able to lose even faster if you correct food.

You have plenty time to get ready for the pool party. Good luck, man.

[Jill Beat]

 

 as long as I have something keeping me accountable (Like the wonderful fellow nerds here) then I don't really have a problem, it's when no one is watching me that I slack off lol

 

*Noted* Set harassment level to "annoying youngest sibling" mode....

[drunkensnake]

I'm 5' 9" and used to be 200ish.

I was 188 last May. I went down to 165 in 4 months, so I lost 1.5lb/week pace after discovering low carb/paleo.

I lost much faster than calorie counting. (calories are not created equal at all.)

 

And, mind you, I started writing software before you are born. I'm over 50 so you may be able to lose even faster if you correct food.

You have plenty time to get ready for the pool party. Good luck, man.

TennisGeek I would love to be able to go full paleo or something similar but my family isn't interested in any diet like that, I can go low carb because hey, I do all the cooking lol so I get to decide what we are eating! :-p

 

 

 

*Noted* Set harassment level to "annoying youngest sibling" mode....

or those teenagers that use everything wrong bang the plates talk loudly about stupid things 

also...annoying youngest sibling is just about the level of harassment I need to really stay on track, especially diet wise lol after all I am the man who took a spicy chicken sandwich and layered it between 2 bacon cheeseburgers, and used grilled cheese sandwiches for bread, and put chili and cheese on chicken strips...what I'm saying is that I've made some really crappy food choices in my life (but there were soooooo delicious) LOL I'm a born fatty 

[Jill Beat]

TennisGeek I would love to be able to go full paleo or something similar but my family isn't interested in any diet like that, I can go low carb because hey, I do all the cooking lol so I get to decide what we are eating! :-p

 

or those teenagers that use everything wrong bang the plates talk loudly about stupid things 

also...annoying youngest sibling is just about the level of harassment I need to really stay on track, especially diet wise lol after all I am the man who took a spicy chicken sandwich and layered it between 2 bacon cheeseburgers, and used grilled cheese sandwiches for bread, and put chili and cheese on chicken strips...what I'm saying is that I've made some really crappy food choices in my life (but there were soooooo delicious) LOL I'm a born fatty 

 

That's perfect that you do all the cooking! Yay for small wins! I live alone and do a big cooking day once a week - I'm blogging all my recipes on my DIY blog and will be posting it in my thread on Fridays.  Feel free to check it out.

 

I know what you mean about terrible choices.  I cannot resist Hawkins cheezies http://www.cheezies.com/index3.htm (it's a Canadian thing).  I WILL eat the entire bag without sharing.  If you try to steal them, you're taking your chances... lol  I laughed as I read that page "Hawkins Cheezies® is synonymous with wholesome goodness. Natural ingredients and real aged cheddar cheese" REALLY? They're fried in oil bits of corn with neon orange cheese stuff on them....there's no way those are good for you.  lol  I also have a weakness for sugar.  Like eat a bag of cookies and a slurpie and maybe some pixie stix. lol

[drunkensnake]

how similar are these cheezies to cheetos? cuz I'll eat me some cheetos, a lot of cheetos, too many cheetos, that's why I no longer buy cheetos, cheezy poofs, cheese puffs or cheese balls lol

[Teros]

utz cheeseballs and target brand cheezeballs are awesome. I also used to eat those smiley face cheetos.  I actually had a box of REAL cheesy poofs from southpark and they were ok.

[Jill Beat]

They're not really similar to cheetos at all.  They don't have that light airy poof to them, but instead they're tight and compact giving you a very satisfying crunch.  If they weren't terrible for you I would mail you some! lol  Awww man, I need to stop thinking about these! 

[TennisGeek]

TennisGeek I would love to be able to go full paleo or something similar but my family isn't interested in any diet like that, I can go low carb because hey, I do all the cooking lol so I get to decide what we are eating! :-p

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I cook my food too. And, I have a teenage daughter.

In family situation, you need a compromise. 

Worst thing you can do to your family is to push anything negative about food.

Promoting balance in positive fashion is the way to go, or else your kid may suffer food issue.

It's a very touch subject, esp. for girls.

 

If kids are healthy, I don't think you need to change much.

OTOH, ADHD and many of so called recent "epidemic" in younger children are often traced to too much carbs, like sugar frosted cereals for breakfast, chips, crackers for snack, etc.

So, feed bacon and eggs with home fries along with some bread with real butter for breakfast.

It's work. But, that's what every family did one or two generations ago, when ADHD and child obesity wasn't known.

You are the role model of healthy eating. Making healthy food available constantly is your mission.

 

In my case, it's moving very slowly but you cannot expect overnight success. OTOH, like my daughter's case, after I lost 30lbs, she is kind of noticing what I eat. That's good enough for me right now.

[Teros]

 

 

In my case, it's moving very slowly but you cannot expect overnight success. OTOH, like my daughter's case, after I lost 30lbs, she is kind of noticing what I eat. That's good enough for me right now.

 

I think it boils down to that. Give them the option to have something not paleo on the side, but lead by example and they will turn around.  My mom was distraught starting the whole 30.  She's done 3 days now and realizes it's not that crazy and difficult to do.  She told me, "you had confidence in me when I had none in myself so now I can do this".  Made me feel good.

[drunkensnake]

I think it boils down to that. Give them the option to have something not paleo on the side, but lead by example and they will turn around.  My mom was distraught starting the whole 30.  She's done 3 days now and realizes it's not that crazy and difficult to do.  She told me, "you had confidence in me when I had none in myself so now I can do this".  Made me feel good.

I might end up doing something like that, but my wife is on board so the only ones I really have to worry about are my brother in law and my daughter, and if today is any indication...I cannot resist chicken nuggets..I'm getting back into the groove of eating healthy but I think I need to detox myself or something because whenever I start to go pretty good I get some ridiculous cravings for absolute shit food the last week or so, like ice cream yesterday when I ate pretty good most of the day, or cake today, or the chicken nuggets we warmed up for my daughter because we knew she wouldn't eat what I made for me and the wife, I dunno, it wasn't this hard last challenge....

[Teros]

nuggets you say? I used to as well. nuggets and mac&cheese were my staples as a kid.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FEMbWn6ClxM

[drunkensnake]

So the mini-quest is to re-evaluate and modify a goal, I don't really want to do my fitness goals because I had no problems with them in the last challenge (that would be kinda wussing out since they are *basically* the same huh?) I wanted to think about my dietary goal, and maybe try to find a way to get more stick to-it-iveness in there, but then I saw my life goal and I realized 2 things:

1.) this is the first time I'm doing anything substantial with the the jquery library

and

2.) everything else I do is in C++ or C#, and I'm teaching myself php as I go coding this website.

Once I thought about this I realized that the old engineers problem crops up, I am probably greatly overestimating my ability to pick up and quickly apply these techniques and technologies to a productive work-flow, especially a custom website with a dev diary, game demos (my own naturally b/c Unity is the shit), and 2 blogs. As such I am scaling back my goal for this particular little venture, rather than go for a full site launch, I want to get my main page up, one blog started and at least one post in my dev diary about learning Unity...I think that is a good scale back

[drunkensnake]

so updated life quest:

LIFE QUEST

 

Get my website started! I have the framework I want sketched out, I just need to code it up and deploy it. Get the Index page and one of the 2 blogs started (it's a fairly large website, one blog is for little research projects I do like how humanity would fair against real vampires, and the other is just for general nerdy observations like what I learned about life from comic books) and start on my dev diary about the game I'm making when normal people should sleep (I never get what I would actually called tired, I just stay up until I'm like "Meh I guess I'll go lay down, I could probably sleep if I tried" bugs the shit outta my wife)  I'm paying for hosting I should use it (CHA - 2)

[Kim Taura]

 

- Strength train 3x a week, I actually ran across this heavily modified version of the 300 challenge for more....n00b1s# exercisers like myself, I can post if anyone is interested (STR-5)

- Cardio training 3x a week alternate with strength training,  HIIT seems way better to me, I have a terrible attention span and get bored running or biking, plus a good HIIT session is only 10-30 min MAX yay for efficiency!! (END-3 DEX-2 [since it will improve sprint ability])

 

So, what is your back up plan if you can't make it to the gym? I would start looking at that so that you have a low Willpower backup plan in mind for those long days or -5*F days.

 

As for the family, try Paleo on a Budget's site. Her husband isn't paleo so that might help in paleo recipe modification. When I watch my nephew and nieces, I make paleo food and then add rice or pasta. It works for the kids. Or, there are paleo family website. The book Eat Like a Dinosaur has family friendly receipes. Just some thoughts.

[drunkensnake]

They're not really similar to cheetos at all.  They don't have that light airy poof to them, but instead they're tight and compact giving you a very satisfying crunch.  If they weren't terrible for you I would mail you some! lol  Awww man, I need to stop thinking about these! 

they sound....really good actually lol

 

So, what is your back up plan if you can't make it to the gym? I would start looking at that so that you have a low Willpower backup plan in mind for those long days or -5*F days.

 

As for the family, try Paleo on a Budget's site. Her husband isn't paleo so that might help in paleo recipe modification. When I watch my nephew and nieces, I make paleo food and then add rice or pasta. It works for the kids. Or, there are paleo family website. The book Eat Like a Dinosaur has family friendly receipes. Just some thoughts.

I've actually been looking at the beginner bodyweight one for excercising in the home, It's actually really good, but instead of jug rows I do inverted bodyweight rows, I don't necessarily have a set plan for strength training (although I do have a weight routine I like), I just need to make myself do it (and even that isn't that hard...I like lifting heavy things lol), although I should look at that cardio goal and see if I can loosen that up to maybe not necessarily being a HIIT session, but to just moving really ( I did steady state last challenge) and thanks for the great reference site! Just the adding rice or pasta is a great tip for my family since I make a lot of stir fry style foods anyway!

[Countess D'If]

Taking a good look at what I cook, there is always some kind of starch at supper - potato, rice, pasta. It's hard to imagine just summarily removing these because that's what a balanced meal looks like, in my brain.

[drunkensnake]

Taking a good look at what I cook, there is always some kind of starch at supper - potato, rice, pasta. It's hard to imagine just summarily removing these because that's what a balanced meal looks like, in my brain.

I know right? who eats stir fry without rice? or steak without potatoes? (although steamed broccoli with garlic salt pairs amazingly with potatoes) I was wielded out the first time I tried stirfry without the rice, I thought I was going to end up eating a ton more...but somehow I didn't...still woulda been better with rice lol

 

Now. I really must stop using the NF boards to avoid work....

[drunkensnake]

DECIDED!!

- Cardio training 3x a week alternate with strength training,  HIIT seems way better to me, I have a terrible attention span and get bored running or biking, plus a good HIIT session is only 10-30 min MAX yay for efficiency!! (END-3 DEX-2 [since it will improve sprint ability])

 

I will also change this goal to the following:

​-Some form of cardio training AT LEAST 2x a week, preferably 3, and preferably HIIT but even just walking or steady state on the bike will be fine (cardio bums me out sometimes) 

[Miyuki]

subbed!

- paying for domain and hosting and not using it - check

- have bucket loads of ideas but not finishing (code wise)- check

- must have challenge and find cardio for an hour too tedious - check

 

- HIIT training  - FULL ON! - got 7min app or any tabata to push the limit

- strength training - yeah! minimal time, maximum effort and MAX rewards!

- getting in shape for a pool party? - lol! - check!

 

Seems like we're on the same page, Im going to be watching your progress and  bug you for the site!!

Dont think you could have a bigger motivator than 2 people  you love!

Go for it! Get moving and at rest... code

Good luck!