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Hi guys,

            So I'm planning on starting the 'Starting Strength' weight plan soon, but I was wondering on whether I should add ab exercises in there too?

I'm currently try to cut my body fat, so can't actually see abs at the moment, just want to know whether it's worth it, or just to stick to the program?

 

Cheers,

            Layla 

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"Doing abs" only helps to strengthen them and does exactly nothing to make them show through a blanket of fat. Billions of dollars have been made on the ideal that it can work, and every cent of it has been an utter waste. Cutting fat comes down to diet, and diet alone.

 

Now if you are buckling in the hole or rounding your lower back off the floor then absolutely do a little supplemental ab work. If those things aren't happening then get the bar on your back and enjoy the ride.

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Note also that the abs get a workout by helping to stabilize the torso (aka "their actual job") while squatting, pressing, etc. Nobody ever squatted heavy without developing a strong core along the way. Later on you can decide if you need/want additional work specifically targeted there, but to start with you can pretty much just do compound lifts and let abdominal strength sort itself out.

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^This

 

I forgot to mention that part

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lol yea, I was going to add that too. Take a deep breath, push against your abs and squat heavy. Direct core work isn't necessary until way later, or maybe ever.

 

Direct core work is probably best suited to the bodyweight enthusiasts. To squat, OHP etc, your abs are fine.

 

With that said, if you want to do some planks, it's not going to hurt you.

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Agree with what the others have said.  I stopped doing abs about a year ago, started lifting heavy Squats, DLs, OHPs, and Bench, and I know my core is stronger now then it's ever been.  

Exactly my situation, except it has been more than a year, and yet my situp score for my fitness test is consistently at or near maximum.

 

However, heavy squat walkouts are giving me abDOMinalS, and make my work sets feel lighter.  I'm squatting about 245 now, and doing walkouts at 315, just to hold for a 5-count and rerack.

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However, heavy squat walkouts are giving me abDOMinalS, and make my work sets feel lighter. I'm squatting about 245 now, and doing walkouts at 315, just to hold for a 5-count and rerack.

Sorry to hijack, but I was doing walkouts as well. No where near that weight but it mentally helped having 45 lbs more on my back, feeling that weight then dropping to my work weight

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I'm pretty anti crunch but turkish get ups are the best ab exercise I've ever done. My core was never stronger than when I did those. Of course in addition to the other stuff mentioned. If you do them with a heavy weight they are hard as shit.

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Turkish get ups are pretty much the ultimate full body movement. You heavily weight those things and they'll whoop you from shoulders to knees.

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Haha so definitely tried my first 10 TGUs and yea it's a completely new, unexpected strain on the muscles used. I think I might try to incorporate them in more.

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I can't agree more with the squats, deadlifts and Turkish get ups. Ab exercises are generally a waste of time. The only one I do is the plank(or bridge, whichever you call it), and that's it when I'm bored and completed all the other exercises and still have time.

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