Raev Posted May 29, 2014 Report Share Posted May 29, 2014 There is no major crisis nor confusion on my part to this one. I've taken up doing some direct core work and lower back accessories to assist in improving my major lifts and I started wondering what others do for direct core work. That's all. Quote level 4 Gnoll warrior STR 6|DEX 5|STA 4|CON 5|WIS 5|CHA 2 Building a better Raev, part 1. Goal: working set of 350# squat, 235# bench, 370# deadlift, 15% or lower BF% Fix slight pelvic tilt, reinforce lower back to help disc issue Link to comment
El Exorcisto Posted May 29, 2014 Report Share Posted May 29, 2014 I do roman chair sit-ups, cable crunches, side bends, suitcase holds, and hanging leg raises for ab work. I do banded hypers for erector work. Quote My training log Spoiler 2016 Hudson Valley Strongman presents Lift for Autism (USS), April 16th Contest report 2015 Hudson Valley Strongman presents Lift for Autism (NAS), April 18th Contest report Eighth Annual Vis Vires Outdoor Strongman Competition (Unsanctioned), August 1st Contest report "What's the difference between an injury that you train around and an injury that you train through?" "A trip to the hospital" Link to comment
Chris-Tien Jinn Posted May 29, 2014 Report Share Posted May 29, 2014 Reverse crunches, and knee raises in the captain's chair or hanging. Quote Some kind of Jedi ..... We are better than we know, if we can be made to see it, [then] for the rest of our lives, we'll be unwilling to settle for less. Past Challenges: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35. 36, 37, 38, 39, 40, 41, 42, 43, 44, 45, 46, 47, 48 Link to comment
Kvothe Gainskiller Posted May 29, 2014 Report Share Posted May 29, 2014 are awesome. Dragon Flags are also a pretty standard thing for me. However, the bulk of my core work involves gymnastics(ish, I'm no gymnast), loaded carries, and other things that I don't consider "direct," despite their making my core more fatigued than anything else. Quote I translate things into Latin. Send me a pm.| Human Flag | | One-arm Chinup | | 20 Bar Muscle-ups | | 225 Press | | 365lb Front Squat | | 515lb Deadlift | | Freestanding HSPU | | Gain 15lb | Battle LogIt's the questions we can't answer that teach us the most. They teach us how to think. If you give a man an answer, all he gains is a little fact. But give him a question and he'll look for his own answers.Anyone can love a thing because. That's as easy as putting a penny in your pocket. But to love something despite. To know the flaws and love them too. That is rare and pure and perfect.We understand how dangerous a mask can be. We all become what we pretend to be. - Patrick RothfussGain 15lbs 42%42% Link to comment
Vintage Posted May 30, 2014 Report Share Posted May 30, 2014 Lever progressions (both on rings and things like dragon flags), strict toes to bar and skin the cats, weighted carries (suitcase, farmers, and overhead). Hollow holds/rocks and arch holds/rocks are regular parts of my warm ups. I started noticing major weaknesses in my core that had become the limiting factor in my squats, so I regularly started doing heavy front-rack work. carries, step ups and lunges with kettlebells held in front rack are killer. Quote Link to comment
I-Jo Posted May 30, 2014 Report Share Posted May 30, 2014 hanging leg raisesL sitsrussian twistspallof pressAll push ups are elevated- I do a fair bit of spider push upsDown ward dog work as well (leg up/down/cross)various yoga inspired moves/workouts. I do ball roll outs- like the pike- but I roll all the way back to I'm on my knees- make it a combo type dealI do hollow holds occasionally- but I find them boring. the bellydancing helps LOL Quote Link to comment
adam_richard Posted May 31, 2014 Report Share Posted May 31, 2014 During the week I will mix in weighted planks, landmine oblique twists, and hanging leg raises. My core work still needs improving, though. Quote Link to comment
Jaymul Posted May 31, 2014 Report Share Posted May 31, 2014 Abs: weighted plank, barbell rollout, weighted glute-ham bench situps, cable ab crunch, weighted decline sit-up, hanging leg raise, russian twists Back: Romanian deadlift, good morning, weighted hyperextensions, banded reverse hyperextension, glute ham raise Quote Battle Log Current Challenge - Jaymul competes and keeps things ticking over Instagram Link to comment
161803398874989 Posted May 31, 2014 Report Share Posted May 31, 2014 One thing: compression work. Basically hamstring stretch followed by 10s seated leg lift. Repeat 4-5 times. Quote Quare? Quod vita mea non tua est. You can call me Phi, Numbers, Sixteen or just plain 161803398874989. Link to comment
TheCrimsonFist Posted June 2, 2014 Report Share Posted June 2, 2014 Torture twists, decline sit-ups, and vacuums are my go-to, but I also like to throw in some leg raises whenever I'm doing work on the pull-up bar or dip bars. Working on the dragon flag, but still a ways off from being proficient at it. Quote They told me I could be anything when I grow up, so I became a superhero. Handbook for Applied Superheroics:Ch 1 | Ch 2 | Ch 3 | Ch 4 Link to comment
Waldo Posted June 3, 2014 Report Share Posted June 3, 2014 One thing: compression work. Basically hamstring stretch followed by 10s seated leg lift. Repeat 4-5 times. Seriously, this is a beast mode ab workout. I hold it a bit longer, about 20 sec, but the same exercise. Also do hollow holds and supermans. I do a ton of indirect/kind of direct core work though. L-sits, front lever progression, back lever, one arm wall handstands, straddle L, middle split hold. Quote currently cutting battle log challenges: 18,17,16,15,14,13,12,11,10,9,8,7,6,5,4,3,2,1 don't panic! Link to comment
The Most Loathed Posted June 3, 2014 Report Share Posted June 3, 2014 Heavy SquatsNo seriously ok, ok, I also do toes to rings, tons of kettlebell clean and jerk too, pilates, yoga, TRX workouts, 2-hands-anyhow and TRX workouts. all that crap has helped in injury prevention but I can't claim that any of it helps with the big lifts in the way the doing more big lifts does. Quote Barbarian of the Battle Logs Battle Log Link to comment
Waldo Posted June 3, 2014 Report Share Posted June 3, 2014 Heavy Squats No seriously A lot of people eventually come to the conclusion that this is faulty thinking as without direct core work chances are eventually a lack of core strength will be your squatting weak point. Quote currently cutting battle log challenges: 18,17,16,15,14,13,12,11,10,9,8,7,6,5,4,3,2,1 don't panic! Link to comment
The Most Loathed Posted June 3, 2014 Report Share Posted June 3, 2014 Which style squat are you using? That makes a pretty big difference on you supplemental exercises, which is really what you seem to mean to be asking about. Quote Barbarian of the Battle Logs Battle Log Link to comment
Hermione Gainser Posted June 3, 2014 Report Share Posted June 3, 2014 A lot of people eventually come to the conclusion that this is faulty thinking as without direct core work chances are eventually a lack of core strength will be your squatting weak point. Agreed, more or less. Doing direct core work has done nothing but improve my lifts. ****Core work: back extensionsplank variationsleg liftshanging knee liftsab wheelreverse planksrandom yoga stuffwhatever they make me do at the end of kickboxingeta: those pike things on the ball, too Quote "I'm just going to remember to not eat like an asshole most of the time" - MoC three words I can sum up everything I've learned about life: one must squat.- Brobert Frost Half-Elf Warrior | Current Challenge New Battle Log | Old Battle Log Special thanks to AkLulu for drawing my awesome avatar! Link to comment
I-Jo Posted June 7, 2014 Report Share Posted June 7, 2014 Which style squat are you using? That makes a pretty big difference on you supplemental exercises, which is really what you seem to mean to be asking about.Waldo does body weight work- last I heard it was shrimp squats LOL but I know he's extremely proficient at pistol squats as well. I would agree with him though- I have very strong abs- and I laid off doing ab work for a while- and it was a mistake. The other issue with this mentality is that you can have strong abs- and not know how to fire them to brace properly- doing more ab work- will only help with that. There is no good reason to NOT do abs... but beltless front squats certainly are a nice addition to the "works abs more" group LOL Quote Link to comment
Kaylya Posted June 7, 2014 Report Share Posted June 7, 2014 Yoga class! Which generally involves planks, boat pose, bridges, and other things. Plus extra planks & prone jacknife on ball on my weight days. Quote "None of us can choose to be perfect, but all of us can choose to be better." - Lou Schuler, New Rules of Lifting for Women Link to comment
Waldo Posted June 10, 2014 Report Share Posted June 10, 2014 Waldo does body weight work- last I heard it was shrimp squats LOL but I know he's extremely proficient at pistol squats as well. I would agree with him though- I have very strong abs- and I laid off doing ab work for a while- and it was a mistake. The other issue with this mentality is that you can have strong abs- and not know how to fire them to brace properly- doing more ab work- will only help with that. There is no good reason to NOT do abs... but beltless front squats certainly are a nice addition to the "works abs more" group LOL Yeah, I was quoting more general terms for barbell folks. I've "hung around" enough barbell folks that I have a pretty good idea of how stuff works. Core will never be a limiting factor for BW/DB squats (unless you count the flexors as core work). The idea that squats is all the core work you need isn't entirely true for most people. Likewise squats alone don't hold a candle to what can be achieved with high level direct core work. Quote currently cutting battle log challenges: 18,17,16,15,14,13,12,11,10,9,8,7,6,5,4,3,2,1 don't panic! Link to comment
Vintage Posted June 10, 2014 Report Share Posted June 10, 2014 The whole "just focus on the big lifts and they'll work your core sufficiently" is great advice for the true beginner who is clinging to the idea that half of their workouts should be made up of 23 different crunch variations and such. In that case, the goal is to get them to simplify and focus. Plus beginners don't have to worry as much about targeting their weak points because they're nothing but weak points. Over time this stops being true, and many lifters find that they need to do some additional core work just like lifters find that they need to do extra glute work or grip work. 1 Quote Link to comment
I-Jo Posted June 11, 2014 Report Share Posted June 11, 2014 Yeah, I was quoting more general terms for barbell folks. I've "hung around" enough barbell folks that I have a pretty good idea of how stuff works. Core will never be a limiting factor for BW/DB squats (unless you count the flexors as core work).The idea that squats is all the core work you need isn't entirely true for most people.Likewise squats alone don't hold a candle to what can be achieved with high level direct core work.no question. I love that you always are willing to include that in your advice- here and MFP. it's nice to know you know both sides. I honestly for me was surprised- despite all my dance- and the fact if I flex its' no question a firm surface of abs- that's my weak point on squats- that and I really was not having a better idea of how to properly brace- both of which can/were solved with more direct core work. Quote Link to comment
Q_est Posted June 11, 2014 Report Share Posted June 11, 2014 Aleknas were recommended by my trainer (AKA Tommys): http://youtu.be/Topg2nyBlSI But I should do more. Right now my core challenge is to get all the way through the Roxanne workout and then see what else I can add in. Quote Link to comment
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