Morrigainz Posted June 30, 2014 Report Share Posted June 30, 2014 Okay. So. I can feel my right leg caving in when it gets hard, and I can manage to push it back out but I can't stop it from happening. Also pretty sure something wonky is going on with my back because it feels a little owie. Although these were MUCH improved from 2 weeks ago. Not sure how much the video shows. (This was set 2 of 3). Quote Level ? Half-Dwarf/Half-Amazon Warrior STR:21.25 STA:15 DEX: 10.95 CON: 14 WIS:15.5 CHA:17 SWOLE BUCKS: 1 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 Link to comment
wildross Posted June 30, 2014 Report Share Posted June 30, 2014 You have the bar really far up your neck which leads to being more upright than most. Have you tried with the bar further down your shoulders, or is this compensation for the back issue? Sent from my SM-P905V using Tapatalk Quote Warriors don't count reps and sets. They count tons. My psychologist weighs 45 pounds, has an iron soul and sits on the end of a bar Tally Sheet for 2019 Encouragement for older members: Chronologically Blessed Group; Encouragement for newbie lifters: When we were weaker Link to comment
Morrigainz Posted July 1, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 1, 2014 I experimented with low bar squat and could never get comfortable with it. With HBBS, I have a meat shelf upon which I can rest my barbarella, and it seems to be mostly ok. 1 Quote Level ? Half-Dwarf/Half-Amazon Warrior STR:21.25 STA:15 DEX: 10.95 CON: 14 WIS:15.5 CHA:17 SWOLE BUCKS: 1 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 Link to comment
jdanger Posted July 1, 2014 Report Share Posted July 1, 2014 Bar position looks ok, movement looks ok overall just a little stiff. If you're doing mobility really hammer hip ER and IR (people often forget to do this). I'd also try moving the stance in a bit. Hard on the video but I think you're probably too wide. If you can't hit depth with a more narrow stance the answer is the same: mobility. Well, mobility and goblet squats.. and pause squats. During mobilization I'd also work on a little less toe angle which, more than anything, makes it easier not to valgus. So squat warmup: if you can sit in a decent bottom position cold I'd start with the barbell ankle stretch for a couple minutes then work into some pause squats with just the bar. Then do some reps slowly increasing the speed (but still pausing in the bottom for a short time, ~1-2s) and get some blood flowing. Think two sets of eight to ten. Then do your hip mobility work. After that do a few sets of goblet squats again focusing on hanging out in the bottom. Then go back to the barbell and see how your bottom position feels and start working up. Sounds like a lot of work but it is definitely worth it and once you find out what works and get used to the flow you can do all this in 5-10 minutes. Quote Eat. Sleep. High bar squat. | Strength is a skill, refine it. Follow my Weightlifting team's antics: Instagram | Facebook | Youtube Looking for a strength program? Check out The Danger Method and remember to do your damn abs Link to comment
Morrigainz Posted July 1, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 1, 2014 FANTASTIC. Yay. Thank you so much. I can do all these things. My stance is definitely wide - it seems to get wider when the weight gets heavy - so I'll work on that. And maybe throw some more front squats in there I can totally hang out in the bottom for some amount of time. At least a minute, so we're good there. I will work on these! And maybe even work on them on non-squat day. You think that will take care of the knee caving issue? Quote Level ? Half-Dwarf/Half-Amazon Warrior STR:21.25 STA:15 DEX: 10.95 CON: 14 WIS:15.5 CHA:17 SWOLE BUCKS: 1 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 Link to comment
jdanger Posted July 1, 2014 Report Share Posted July 1, 2014 It will definitely help. Once all that feels good and you're hitting depth with the new stance if it's still a problem you can do some more tricks to sort it out. Normally once you're comfortable through the whole range and actively think about keeping the knees out it works out if you're using reasonable weight. Quote Eat. Sleep. High bar squat. | Strength is a skill, refine it. Follow my Weightlifting team's antics: Instagram | Facebook | Youtube Looking for a strength program? Check out The Danger Method and remember to do your damn abs Link to comment
Rooks Posted July 1, 2014 Report Share Posted July 1, 2014 Would it be worthwhile to get try and angle your feet a bit more towards the front? I know I find that when my toes are pointed too far outwards, my knees tend to not track outward how I like. Quote Link to comment
Morrigainz Posted July 1, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 1, 2014 Yup I think so. I've never found a stance that's perfect for me, and I think it's because my stance seems to naturally get wider as the weight gets heavier. So I will def try all these things. Yayyy advice. 1 Quote Level ? Half-Dwarf/Half-Amazon Warrior STR:21.25 STA:15 DEX: 10.95 CON: 14 WIS:15.5 CHA:17 SWOLE BUCKS: 1 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 Link to comment
jdanger Posted July 1, 2014 Report Share Posted July 1, 2014 Absolutely. I wrote that in during the context of mobilization above but should have made it more clear. The goal is to move the stance in and get into a more forward toe position. Generally we start down this road by mobilizing in these positions even if our working squats aren't quite there. If someone is close to the target they can generally integrate the change within a few sessions. It does require a bit more hip and ankle mobility so some cranking is often required. And I missed Mir's question about non squat days. Yes. Squat mobility all the days. At least until it's no longer a second thought. 1 Quote Eat. Sleep. High bar squat. | Strength is a skill, refine it. Follow my Weightlifting team's antics: Instagram | Facebook | Youtube Looking for a strength program? Check out The Danger Method and remember to do your damn abs Link to comment
jdanger Posted July 1, 2014 Report Share Posted July 1, 2014 Double post! Quote Eat. Sleep. High bar squat. | Strength is a skill, refine it. Follow my Weightlifting team's antics: Instagram | Facebook | Youtube Looking for a strength program? Check out The Danger Method and remember to do your damn abs Link to comment
jdanger Posted July 1, 2014 Report Share Posted July 1, 2014 Triple post! 1 Quote Eat. Sleep. High bar squat. | Strength is a skill, refine it. Follow my Weightlifting team's antics: Instagram | Facebook | Youtube Looking for a strength program? Check out The Danger Method and remember to do your damn abs Link to comment
Strawberry Squatcake Posted July 1, 2014 Report Share Posted July 1, 2014 Triple post! HAHAH! This stuff all applies to me, too (SFAM!), especially the feeling of being "stiff." And not in a good way. I'll also be applying these to some of my non-squat days (which is most days these days, so now there's a purpose!). Look a two-for-one! Quote Shape-Shifting Ginger Current Battle Log 2" washers for smaller weight increases Link to comment
Hermione Gainser Posted July 3, 2014 Report Share Posted July 3, 2014 I don't have anything relevant to add. I just wanted to say: dem quadz Quote "I'm just going to remember to not eat like an asshole most of the time" - MoC three words I can sum up everything I've learned about life: one must squat.- Brobert Frost Half-Elf Warrior | Current Challenge New Battle Log | Old Battle Log Special thanks to AkLulu for drawing my awesome avatar! Link to comment
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