Sam Ashen Flashback February

[Urgan]

Must.  Not.  Troll.  Article.  Must.  Not.  Troll.  Article.

 

 

Um.  Whut?

 

Try doing real squats and not the ones we keep seeing in MFP Blogs, with 30 to 50 times body weight in volume - and then tell me what a recommended serving of spaghetti is as an example.

 

 

They're missing two words, there, "Recommended serving FOR YOU"...these things assume we should all have the same needs and should never clear 2000 calories ever. Or something. Thus their argument is invalid. 

 

I just generally get an idea of how much I eat, measurements + lifts tell me what it does for my body, ergo I achieve a target macro. So in screwy, tangential way they kinda sorta almost had a point there. But not quite. 

[Trewest]

They're missing two words, there, "Recommended serving FOR YOU"...these things assume we should all have the same needs and should never clear 2000 calories ever. Or something. Thus their argument is invalid. 

 

I just generally get an idea of how much I eat, measurements + lifts tell me what it does for my body, ergo I achieve a target macro. So in screwy, tangential way they kinda sorta almost had a point there. But not quite. 

[Urgan]

 

They coulda just posted this gif in that article and probably gotten closer to some facts....

[Sam Ashen]

Since I find so much entertainment (and controversy) value in trying to calculate calories, I am still thinking

 

(for Squats)

2 x Total Reps

+Volume, measured in 20 kg / 45 pound plates

 

based on my size and proportions.  Based on my recent work, MFP is not as far off as I would like to think.  However, the recent work has been a lot of single reps and double reps with a lot of rest in between.

 

Recovery / increased metabolism should be a separate adjustment.

 

Still working on MFP calibration in a separate spreadsheet.

[Rurik Harrgath]

Try doing real squats and not the ones we keep seeing in MFP Blogs, with 30 to 50 times body weight in volume - and then tell me what a recommended serving of spaghetti is as an example.

(for Squats)

2 x Total Reps

+Volume, measured in 20 kg / 45 pound plates

 

based on my size and proportions.  Based on my recent work, MFP is not as far off as I would like to think.  However, the recent work has been a lot of single reps and double reps with a lot of rest in between.

 

Recovery / increased metabolism should be a separate adjustment.

 

Still working on MFP calibration in a separate spreadsheet.

 

I'm celebrating a Sam Ashen kind of day.  Heading for 3000 calories, tons of volume in Back Squats already logged today.

 

That said, apparently Squats & Spaghetti isn't a thing like Donuts & Deadlifts is. 

[Emerald_Dragonfly]

That said, apparently Squats & Spaghetti isn't a thing like Donuts & Deadlifts is. 

 

I'm pretty sure that Sam could make it a thing. 

[Sam Ashen]

That said, apparently Squats & Spaghetti isn't a thing like Donuts & Deadlifts is. 

 

Squats & Spaghetti sounds quite a bit healthier than Deadlifts & Donuts.

 

And that most certainly sounds quite a bit healthier than Bench & Bee Dubbs.  

[Urgan]

I'm more of a fan of Bench and BBQ, myself...

[Bullroarer Took]

Must.  Not.  Troll.  Article.  Must.  Not.  Troll.  Article.

 

 

Um.  Whut?

 

Try doing real squats and not the ones we keep seeing in MFP Blogs, with 30 to 50 times body weight in volume - and then tell me what a recommended serving of spaghetti is as an example.

 

 

Im gonna buck the trend here and say I agree with the article that MFP is good for knowing what a serving size is.  Most folks have no idea the calorie or the macro content or what a serving size is to know what they are eating. Now, that's not by any stretch of the imagination to say I would eat one "serving" of spaghetti and sauce but it is important for me to know how many servings I am eating.  I'm typically eating 2-3 servings of eat or fish per meal but I think it's good to know what that actually is.  

[Tanktimus the Encourager]

Im gonna buck the trend here and say I agree with the article that MFP is good for knowing what a serving size is.  Most folks have no idea the calorie or the macro content or what a serving size is to know what they are eating. Now, that's not by any stretch of the imagination to say I would eat one "serving" of spaghetti and sauce but it is important for me to know how many servings I am eating.  I'm typically eating 2-3 servings of eat or fish per meal but I think it's good to know what that actually is.  

No, no, no, on Sam's threads we mindlessly mock MFP and praise Sam for his Trolling thereof.

[Sam Ashen]

Im gonna buck the trend here and say I agree with the article that MFP is good for knowing what a serving size is.  Most folks have no idea the calorie or the macro content or what a serving size is to know what they are eating. Now, that's not by any stretch of the imagination to say I would eat one "serving" of spaghetti and sauce but it is important for me to know how many servings I am eating.  I'm typically eating 2-3 servings of eat or fish per meal but I think it's good to know what that actually is.  

 

This is a fair point, so here:

 

 

It says, "14 Chips."  So I counted out 14.  I even cherry picked as well as I can to get 14 decently sized ones, not broken chips.  Here is what I got:

 

 

So the hypothesis I would draw is if I dip my hand in there and grabbed and handful, that would be one serving.  A bag of chips like that I should be able to dip my hand in there ten times and get nearly all of them.  So the theory I am trying to go by is for large containers of snack foods, a reasonable "serving" size is one handful.

 

I get your point.  Making the effort to track yields the educational value of what a serving size is because it is very likely you took the time to read the nutrition label to find out what a serving size is.  In the USA there is another bonus:  They tell you how many servings there are per container!  In Canada, they do not.  Maybe it is because metric units are easier to figure out.  

 

The point I am trying to troll is how pitifully small a "recommended serving size" is.  So when I make spaghetti for myself, it is 4 servings of spaghetti noodles, 4 servings of ground beef, and 4 servings of spaghetti sauce.  It might be amusing to cook up a single serving of each and take a picture and post it.

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Core and Conditioning Work and Lunges today.

 

Score for Today:

2764 Calories

312 Carbs

107 Fat

154 Protein

 

+0.2 Overall

[Bullroarer Took]

 

 

The point I am trying to troll is how pitifully small a "recommended serving size" is.  So when I make spaghetti for myself, it is 4 servings of spaghetti noodles, 4 servings of ground beef, and 4 servings of spaghetti sauce.  It might be amusing to cook up a single serving of each and take a picture and post it.

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Which to me this is the key why it does have value.  Folks who say I had a spaghetti and so that should be 500 calories as a serving of noodles and sauce but really ate 1500.

 

2000 calorie diet is a round number and really appropriate for smallish post menopausal women.  If I was accurately measuring a 2000 calorie diet is probably a pretty steep cut for me even as a small framed mid 30s short dude.

 

Oh, and when I am being really anal, I won't count 14 chips, I will weigh out the 28 grams. 

[Jaymul]

Serving size is an interesting one. When cutting I do actually try and stick to recommended serving sizes because it makes carb management easier but it's eye-opening when you realise that a typical restaurant portion of pasta is about 5 times the recommended serving size!

 

On calories, I found that 2000 calories a day ran me into the ground in about 2 months, even with two big carb refeeds. 

[Sam Ashen]

Made chili last night and left it in the fridge.  Forgot to put it in the crock pot this morning.  

 

Guess what I am doing lunch hour?

[miss_marissa]

Made chili last night and left it in the fridge. Forgot to put it in the crock pot this morning.

Guess what I am doing lunch hour?

Ugh! That's the worst!

[msuroo]

Eating a whole crock full of cold chili? I mean, that's what I'd do ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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[Sam Ashen]

Eating a whole crock full of cold chili? I mean, that's what I'd do ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

 

Ugh! That's the worst!

 

Taken out of context, but that says it.

 

I like cold chili, but not uncooked chili.  Wait.  I have not tried it.  The beef is mostly cooked.  Mostly.  

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Most articles showing up on FB are stupid.  Just.  Stupid.  However I read an interesting article on Stack about Ladder Drills.  They were claiming they hare heavily promoted, but have no transfer to speed and agility.  By speed, they mean how fast can you get from Point A to Point B and they used the 40 yard (36.56 meter) dash as the standard and they say it is based on how much force can be applied to the ground in each stride.  They say it is best trained by training unilateral and bilateral strength and power and heavy Ladder Drill training will teach a short stride and no applied strength and power.  The same argument applies to agility.  (Think Shuttle Run.)  Apply force to ground to change Velocity.

 

It was such an interesting article I actually scribbled notes.  In general, I considered Ladder Drills to be for Footwork coordination and the transfer would be to something like boxing where I want the footwork to match the handwork and I don't want to find myself facing my opponent with the legs crossed and the hips in no position to be aimed at the opponent.

 

Tools and applications.  

[Rookiebeotch]

All other less important matters aside, I at least hope that there are no beans in that chili. They don't belong there.

[Sam Ashen]

All other less important matters aside, I at least hope that there are no beans in that chili. They don't belong there.

Eat your beans.  They make you fart.

[Tanktimus the Encourager]

All other less important matters aside, I at least hope that there are no beans in that chili. They don't belong there.

Beans I can tolerate. I have actually heard the phrase "and I added some corn for color" in reference to chili before. It made my heart hurt.

[msuroo]

None of that bothers me.

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[Rookiebeotch]

I think victory is mine today. Lunch:

COSTCO FOOD COURT'S

Pizzas

Slice Combo Pizza

8x

5432 calories 22736

Nutrients %DV 1

Total Fat 232g 357%

Sat. Fat 96g 480%

Trans Fat 4g

Cholesterol 520mg 173%

Sodium 12320mg 513%

Total Carbs. 576g 192%

Dietary Fiber 32g 128%

Sugars 64g

Protein 288g

Calcium 4000mg

Plus a quarter Cheesecake. Should be around 6k.

[miss_marissa]

I think victory is mine today. Lunch:

Plus a quarter Cheesecake. Should be around 6k.

Oh dang! Throw that in the mfpvp!

[Tanktimus the Encourager]

I think victory is mine today. Lunch:

Plus a quarter Cheesecake. Should be around 6k.

[Sam Ashen]

Met a powerlifting bro today.  He was doing 3x3x208.6 kg looking like he was going for 10 reps.  I talked to him briefly.  He says his max is 260 kg.  He was also pretty mad when the "Crossfit" class showed up to start taking over the platforms.  They left signs saying the platforms are reserved 6pm Monday and Thursday, which is fine.  But today was Tuesday.  He said something about how "they won't be keeping members like that."

 

Squats:

1x10x20.4 kg empty bar

1x10x61.2 kg

1x5x83.9 kg

 

Clean and Jerk:

1x5x42.6 kg

1x5x60.8 kg

 

Jerks:

1x3x60.8 kg

1x3x69.8 kg

3x3x78.9 kg - A little too heavy for the technique.

 

Overhead Press:

5x5x51.7 kg

 

Negative Nancy: (modified)

4 Rounds of:

15x29 kg Overhead Squats

walk to treadmills

400m run

walk back to platforms

 

The positive I will draw is actually getting through a set of 15 Overhead Squats.  The drawback is the form compromise that shows up in the form of breathing.

 

Score for Today:

3382 Calories

342 Carbs

145 Fat

193 Protein

 

+6.4 Overall

 

Tomorrow I will try to remember to take a picture of my PB sandwich to see if I do, in fact, slop a quarter cup of PB or if I have been lying to MFP for the better part of a year.