Mark D Posted May 16, 2016 Report Share Posted May 16, 2016 After way too long out of the gym, partly winter blahs and mostly laziness, I got back to the gym on Saturday. I began a Greyskull program, for now the plan is twice a week, if I feel like I can manage I may go to three times a week. Saturday was bench press and deadlifts, with curls as an accessory (because bro!) Bench press: 45 lb warm up 1x10 65 lb work sets: 5/5/12 Deadlifts: 135 lb 10/5 Curls: 40 lb 10/10/6 For those who aren't familiar with the program,it involves two "main" lifts each day and one optional accessory lift. Unlike most programs, the upper-body lift is done first (the idea being that squats can wear you out enough to affect your presses, but presses aren't likely to affect your squats). For everything but deadlifts you do three sets, two sets of five and one set As-Many-Reps-As-Possible (AMRAP). Deadlifts are done only one set AMRAP (I'll explain what happened next). Weight progression is 5 lbs for squats and deadlifts, 2.5 for presses. On the AMRAP set if you can do between five and ten reps you increase by the normal progression next time. If you can do more than ten you increase by double the amount next time. If you can't do five reps, you deload by 10% (rounded down) next time (when it's assumed you're AMRAP will go up). I started light because it's been a while since I've been under the barbell, I wanted to make sure my form was OK, that's why I also did an extra set of 5 deadlifts. My plan is twice-a-week, Saturday will be bench press and deadlifts, Tuesday or Wednesday will be OHP and squats. It's good to be back! 2 Quote My character: https://www.nerdfitness.com/character/58572/ Current Challenge:http://rebellion.nerdfitness.com/index.php?/topic/83683-mark-d-walks-up-to-a-barbell/ Previous Challenges: 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1 Link to comment
wildross Posted May 16, 2016 Report Share Posted May 16, 2016 Congrats on restarting! Quote Warriors don't count reps and sets. They count tons. My psychologist weighs 45 pounds, has an iron soul and sits on the end of a bar Tally Sheet for 2019 Encouragement for older members: Chronologically Blessed Group; Encouragement for newbie lifters: When we were weaker Link to comment
Mark D Posted May 16, 2016 Author Report Share Posted May 16, 2016 Thanks for the welcome and encouragement. I like to think I learned from my mistakes last time around, so I'm hopefully in a position to get better results this time. Quote My character: https://www.nerdfitness.com/character/58572/ Current Challenge:http://rebellion.nerdfitness.com/index.php?/topic/83683-mark-d-walks-up-to-a-barbell/ Previous Challenges: 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1 Link to comment
SevenofSeven Posted May 18, 2016 Report Share Posted May 18, 2016 Hey, hey, welcome back. Liking the Greyskull idea. Good luck. Quote Wait! What............? Link to comment
Mark D Posted May 18, 2016 Author Report Share Posted May 18, 2016 This morning: OHP: 45 lb 1x10 55 lb 5/5/8 Squats 45 lb 1x10 95 lb 5/5/9 First time doing barbell squats in WAY too long. I want a word with whoever took my legs and replaced them with rubber bands. I felt like I could have done a couple more squats on the last set, but my hip was starting to cramp and I didn't want it to go into a full-blown cramp with a barbell on my back. 2 Quote My character: https://www.nerdfitness.com/character/58572/ Current Challenge:http://rebellion.nerdfitness.com/index.php?/topic/83683-mark-d-walks-up-to-a-barbell/ Previous Challenges: 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1 Link to comment
Mark D Posted May 19, 2016 Author Report Share Posted May 19, 2016 Ufff, DOMS are definitely a thing today.... Quote My character: https://www.nerdfitness.com/character/58572/ Current Challenge:http://rebellion.nerdfitness.com/index.php?/topic/83683-mark-d-walks-up-to-a-barbell/ Previous Challenges: 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1 Link to comment
Duality Posted May 19, 2016 Report Share Posted May 19, 2016 DOMS mean somethings working When ever I go back to the gym after a 2 month+ break, I go 50% weight the first week or two. It helps. Quote It's not 80% diet, 20% exercise, it's 100% diet, 100% exercise. Give it your all. My journey (Date - Total - BF % - LBM) 2012-01-01 - 242 - 35% - 157 2013-12-15 - 172 - 10% - 155 2016-05-01 - 231 - 25% - 173 Link to comment
Mark D Posted May 19, 2016 Author Report Share Posted May 19, 2016 2 minutes ago, Duality said: DOMS mean somethings working When ever I go back to the gym after a 2 month+ break, I go 50% weight the first week or two. It helps. Pretty much what I did, I dropped 100 lbs off my last deadlift work weight, 60 off my squats. I'll work my way back up there. One of the things I like about Greyskull is that I'm not just marking time with the lighter weights, I'm doing more reps so I'm still improving, and as the weight climbs I'll keep getting stronger. I think the big thing for me is to make sure I have enough time to recover, I think that's why I fell flat last time. You can't squat if you're still tired from your last work out. 1 Quote My character: https://www.nerdfitness.com/character/58572/ Current Challenge:http://rebellion.nerdfitness.com/index.php?/topic/83683-mark-d-walks-up-to-a-barbell/ Previous Challenges: 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1 Link to comment
Mark D Posted May 23, 2016 Author Report Share Posted May 23, 2016 Saturday Morning: Bench Press: 45 lb 1x10 65 lb 1x5 70 lb 5/5/10 10 body-weight squats to warm up for the deadlifts Deadlift: 135 lb 1x3 145 lb 10 Felt better afterward this time, not as sore even though after the gym I went home and mowed the lawn. I'll be away next weekend, and the hotel I'll be staying in has a fitness center that advertises "free weights". I'm not expecting much, but maybe I can get something in while I'm there. 1 Quote My character: https://www.nerdfitness.com/character/58572/ Current Challenge:http://rebellion.nerdfitness.com/index.php?/topic/83683-mark-d-walks-up-to-a-barbell/ Previous Challenges: 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1 Link to comment
Mark D Posted May 25, 2016 Author Report Share Posted May 25, 2016 This morning OHP: 45 lb 1x10 57.5 lb 5/5/10 Squats: 45 lb 1x10 100 lb 5/5/10 There seems to be something to this program. Last week, on both OHP and squats, I managed fewer reps on my AMREP set with a lower weight than I did this week, which seems to indicate that I'm getting stronger. Maybe it's too early to tell, but I'll take what I can get. Oh, as for the chimera of 1.25 lb plates, which apparently aren't available anywhere in NJ. I could order them on Amazon, but they're expensive (really? $25 for two plates AND another ten bucks for shipping, when a pair of 2.5 lb plates costs $6 at my local sporting goods store???) I had an old pair of ankle weights, I just set them up for 1.25 lbs each and hang them on the barbell, easy peasy, works fine. I also bought my own 2.5 lb plates, I got seriously tired of wandering around the gym looking for them. 1 Quote My character: https://www.nerdfitness.com/character/58572/ Current Challenge:http://rebellion.nerdfitness.com/index.php?/topic/83683-mark-d-walks-up-to-a-barbell/ Previous Challenges: 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1 Link to comment
Jord Posted May 25, 2016 Report Share Posted May 25, 2016 I don't lift that much so I haven't used clips but I started using them this week and I thought to myself, add enough clips and you could slowly increase in weight! ahaha! Since my weights are so light I did actually wonder how much the metal clips weigh, doesn't really affect me or worry me, it was just a thought. I'm sure you could DIY fractional plates with stuff from the hardware store easily. Quote Jǫrð, Delvian Nomad - Level 12 { Battle Log } Link to comment
Grymm Posted May 25, 2016 Report Share Posted May 25, 2016 http://www.mcmaster.com/#91081a046 Buy 6 washers, cost $12. They will fit on a 2" bar. Having not done this yet, I'm not sure if the 1/8" clearance gives the plates a noticeable rattle. Washers are generally stamped out of a reel of stock. While the thickness lists as variable, in all likelihood the washers you get will be very close in thickness having come from the same reel. If you have a food scale, you can weigh them to verify. At the lightest, they are 0.5# and heaviest 0.75#. 6 washers at 0.625# lets you add 1.25#, 2.5#, or 3.75# to a lift. 8 washers gets you to 5# so 6 is the magic number. Even if they come in at the light end, it's 1, 2, or 3#. If you don't have a scale, you can calculate the weight from the thickness and/or verifying them to be the same thickness would mean equal in weight. This hack courtesy of google. I also buy a lot of hardware from McMaster for work. Quote Intro Challenges: #1, #2, #3, #4, #5 Link to comment
Mark D Posted May 25, 2016 Author Report Share Posted May 25, 2016 Yeah, I considered the washers, but I already HAD the ankle weights and they work fine. The gym has clips which I generally don't use, and don't know what they weigh. Especially for bench press, I want to make sure I can dump the weights if I get pinned (even though I never go to failure on bench, just not worth it). Back to the topic of the 2.5 lb plates, the best I can tell my gym has seven of them, don't ask why it's an odd number, and they always seem to go walkabout. One memorable time I saw a guy curling with six of them on the bar, some people can't math. There's plenty of everything else, from 5's to 100's. Quote My character: https://www.nerdfitness.com/character/58572/ Current Challenge:http://rebellion.nerdfitness.com/index.php?/topic/83683-mark-d-walks-up-to-a-barbell/ Previous Challenges: 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1 Link to comment
Mark D Posted May 26, 2016 Author Report Share Posted May 26, 2016 Well, the DOMS are MUCH less this week than they were last, which I take as a good thing. A few aches, and a nasty bruise on my hip where I skewered myself on the leg press machine (which I've always thought was MUCH too close to the power rack). 1 Quote My character: https://www.nerdfitness.com/character/58572/ Current Challenge:http://rebellion.nerdfitness.com/index.php?/topic/83683-mark-d-walks-up-to-a-barbell/ Previous Challenges: 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1 Link to comment
Emerald_Dragonfly Posted May 26, 2016 Report Share Posted May 26, 2016 My gym has a leg raise station (with a squishy half ball on the back) almost touching the rack. Impossible to both be in use simultaneously. Silly. Quote ~Emerald_Dragonfly Level 13 Warrior Link to comment
Mark D Posted May 26, 2016 Author Report Share Posted May 26, 2016 46 minutes ago, Emerald_Dragonfly said: My gym has a leg raise station (with a squishy half ball on the back) almost touching the rack. Impossible to both be in use simultaneously. Silly. Both can be used, but you can't load plates on the leg press while someone's squatting, unless you want to get bonked with a barbell of course. Quote My character: https://www.nerdfitness.com/character/58572/ Current Challenge:http://rebellion.nerdfitness.com/index.php?/topic/83683-mark-d-walks-up-to-a-barbell/ Previous Challenges: 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1 Link to comment
NatetheStrong Posted May 26, 2016 Report Share Posted May 26, 2016 21 hours ago, Mark D said: There's plenty of everything else, from 5's to 100's. I absolutely love 100 lbs plates, but my current gym doesn't have any. When I was in college the gym had four of them, but they were used to weigh down the basketball hoops and strictly off limits for weightlifting! Quote Nate the Strong Warforged Paladin Level 8 | STR-33 | DEX-11 | STA-18 | CON-14 | WIS-17 | CHA-14 535/365/610:1510 243/243/166/277:685 'He who conquers himself is mightier than he who conquers a city.''Blessed be the LORD, my rock, who trains my hands for war, and my fingers for battle;' Link to comment
Mark D Posted May 26, 2016 Author Report Share Posted May 26, 2016 39 minutes ago, NatetheStrong said: I absolutely love 100 lbs plates, but my current gym doesn't have any. When I was in college the gym had four of them, but they were used to weigh down the basketball hoops and strictly off limits for weightlifting! The 100's have two apparent uses at my gym: 1) The leg press machines 2) Being racked on top of the 2.5, 5 or 10 lb plates so you have to move it to get what you need. There's a special Hell for people who do this, the one reserved for child molesters and people who talk in theaters. 3 Quote My character: https://www.nerdfitness.com/character/58572/ Current Challenge:http://rebellion.nerdfitness.com/index.php?/topic/83683-mark-d-walks-up-to-a-barbell/ Previous Challenges: 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1 Link to comment
Mark D Posted May 30, 2016 Author Report Share Posted May 30, 2016 My wife and I are away for the weekend, so I hit the hotel fitness center Sunday morning. It had dumb bells and that abomination in the eyes of all that is Holy, the Smith Machine. I decided to try deadlifts in the Smith. Dumb bell bench press 20 lb (each) as warm-up. 1*10 30 lb each hand 5/5/12 Deadlift in the Smith 135 lb 1*5 155 lb 1*5 I HATE Smith Machines!!! Next time I'll just do goblet squats. hi 1 Quote My character: https://www.nerdfitness.com/character/58572/ Current Challenge:http://rebellion.nerdfitness.com/index.php?/topic/83683-mark-d-walks-up-to-a-barbell/ Previous Challenges: 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1 Link to comment
Emerald_Dragonfly Posted May 31, 2016 Report Share Posted May 31, 2016 Nice job lifting in the hotel, though! Quote ~Emerald_Dragonfly Level 13 Warrior Link to comment
Mark D Posted June 1, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 1, 2016 On 5/30/2016 at 8:33 PM, Emerald_Dragonfly said: Nice job lifting in the hotel, though! Thanks! This "fitness center" wasn't as bad as some I've seen, it had a cable machine, the aforementioned abomination known as the Smith Machine, and dumb bells up to 50 lbs. Along with a couple benches, and the obligatory cardio machines. The thing I JUST DON'T GET about the Smith Machine is the bar path, it's not straight up-and-down, it's angled. So for squatting, bench-pressing or deadlifting the bar isn't moving in a natural path. For deadlifting, for instance, depending on which side of the bar I stood (and I tried both) the bar would lose contact with my legs and move away from my body, or push against me and push me backward. Have I mentioned that I HATE Smith Machines???? Quote My character: https://www.nerdfitness.com/character/58572/ Current Challenge:http://rebellion.nerdfitness.com/index.php?/topic/83683-mark-d-walks-up-to-a-barbell/ Previous Challenges: 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1 Link to comment
Mark D Posted June 6, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 6, 2016 Saturday morning, last session of this challenge: BP: 45 lb 1x10 72.5 lb 5/5/12 10 body weight squats to warm up for deadlifts Deadlift 135 lb 1x5 150 lb 1x10 Observations: Greyskull seems to be working for me. Last bench press session on my third set I managed 10 reps at 70 lbs, this time I managed 12 at 72.5. I'm not as blasted as I was, I think two lifts each day is enough. I'm considering trying three days a week until the weights get heavier, two days of OHP/Squats and one of BP/DL. Get the squat weights up a bit. I just don't want to wipe myself out like I did last time. As soon as the next challenge forum goes up I'll add my next challenge. 1 Quote My character: https://www.nerdfitness.com/character/58572/ Current Challenge:http://rebellion.nerdfitness.com/index.php?/topic/83683-mark-d-walks-up-to-a-barbell/ Previous Challenges: 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1 Link to comment
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