New UK Recriut Saying Hi

[ROOCHOP]

Hi

My name is Rich, im a 36 year old house husband from Oxford, England. After being made redundant due to the wonderful economic times, I took over the reigns at home. An absolute blessing.

I have been able to work on my families fitness and nutrition and we have all made big improvements because of it, we are at a stage where we have learned a great deal about what is right and wrong in training and the good, the bad and the ugly in nutrition. This of course led us to our new home, with our new brothers and sisters at NF.

Thank you for being there for us and here's to us all taking over the world and making it an even greater place to be.

Rich

[Deeper Blue]

Hi Rich,

I'm a new UK'er too and there actually seem to be a fair few of us about recently.

Well done for all the improvements you've made so far and good luck with whatever you have planned next

D.B.

[ROOCHOP]

Cheers D.B.

[LittleK]

Hi,

I am also new to the site, and from the UK. I was introduced to NF by Roochop as I am his wife!

I am training at the gym between 5 to 6 times a week before I go to work (which means my day starts at 5.15am ), but progress is slower than I would like to see due to Gall Bladder surgery 10 year ago and having a child. BUT I WILL GET THERE!!!

Thanks for reading, and if you have had Gall Bladder surgery I would really liker to hear from you

K

[Timmy M]

i was wondering about the awful coincidence of two people just joining up from the same town lol welcome one and all and good luck with your lives

[ROOCHOP]

No cheating that way, big nerd is watching

[m00se]

Welcome welcome welcome. Hooray for the UK growing in numbers on here

if you have had Gall Bladder surgery I would really liker to hear from you

I haven't had gall bladder surgery but I just took a specialty registrar general surgery job so I'm DOING a lot of it at the moment any questions?

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[Gem1304]

I'm loving the fact there's a few of us from the UK! I'm in High Wycombe so not far from Oxford and only joined here the other day. Seriously, the info on here and the help on hand is really great! Welcome and enjoy

[SpongeBob]

It's a uk take over!!!

Oxford Is a lovely part of the country, better than say Scunthorpe.

Welcome to the site and great to have you here

[ROOCHOP]

Welcome welcome welcome. Hooray for the UK growing in numbers on here

I haven't had gall bladder surgery but I just took a specialty registrar general surgery job so I'm DOING a lot of it at the moment any questions?

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Cheers moose, im sure there will be a few as the info and support is limited. Namely diet at this point. We were told low fat by a diet specialist, which we are now being told is wrong as this will cause acid build up. We can find definitive answers though.

All help most welcome

Thanks again

Rich

[ROOCHOP]

C'mon the Thames Valley

[ROOCHOP]

It's a uk take over!!!

Oxford Is a lovely part of the country, better than say Scunthorpe.

Welcome to the site and great to have you here

Its nice to visit shall we say

[Timmy M]

It's a uk take over!!!

Oxford Is a lovely part of the country, better than say Scunthorpe.

Welcome to the site and great to have you here

you are, of course, correct

P.S. WHERE HAVE YOU BEEN MISTER!

[m00se]

Cheers moose, im sure there will be a few as the info and support is limited. Namely diet at this point. We were told low fat by a diet specialist, which we are now being told is wrong as this will cause acid build up. We can find definitive answers though.

All help most welcome

Thanks again

Rich

There is evidence that eating a low-fat diet before you have a cholecystectomy (if you have gallstones and pain) is beneficial for symptom relief because it decreases the amount the gallbladder squeezes against the stones inside it and therefore decreases pain and reduces the likelihood that a stone might pop out and cause common bile duct obstruction or pancreatitis or other horrible badnesses.

There's no evidence that you should eat a low-fat diet after a cholecystectomy because, for obvious reasons, the gallbladder can't contract any more (because it's in a bin). Most people in the short-term post-op will have a bit of difficulty digesting fats but after a few weeks the liver regulates fat digestion much more efficiently, and you're able to eat a normal diet.

The short version: Don't bother eating a low fat diet after your gallbladder surgery, unless it was only done a couple of weeks ago. In your case, eat what you like (within reason )

[ROOCHOP]

There is evidence that eating a low-fat diet before you have a cholecystectomy (if you have gallstones and pain) is beneficial for symptom relief because it decreases the amount the gallbladder squeezes against the stones inside it and therefore decreases pain and reduces the likelihood that a stone might pop out and cause common bile duct obstruction or pancreatitis or other horrible badnesses.

There's no evidence that you should eat a low-fat diet after a cholecystectomy because, for obvious reasons, the gallbladder can't contract any more (because it's in a bin). Most people in the short-term post-op will have a bit of difficulty digesting fats but after a few weeks the liver regulates fat digestion much more efficiently, and you're able to eat a normal diet.

The short version: Don't bother eating a low fat diet after your gallbladder surgery, unless it was only done a couple of weeks ago. In your case, eat what you like (within reason )

Thanks Moose

The situation is that my wife has steadily gained and held weight since (depressing for her) and no amount of correct eating (conventionally) nor exercise has helped, recently we have had success with a low fat diet consisting of 2 shakes a day (protein) plus several small sittings of chicken veg and either pasta or rice, that said the progress has been slow.

We have removed the pasta and rice this week to move towards paleo as the low fat was attributing to many issues, dizziness, nausea, lack of concentration, tiredness etc as the fats were not clearing acids out of the stomach.

Do you think the paleo will help or is this too much fat to handle?

It has been a battle for about a decade now, she has eaten right and trained for the last 2 years, while the training has been a learning curve, you would expect to see her weight to move more than a few pounds (this is not the muscle vs fat scenario either) most of the excess is carried in her midriff and as you can is very demotivating for her

Thanks again

[m00se]

Sure.

Following 'correct eating (conventionally)' doesn't work for the same reason it doesn't work for almost everybody: conventional wisdom is wrong. The low-fat diet you speak of has probably only worked because, by the look of it, it contains very few calories. Conventional diets of all sorts, including those usually prescribed by doctors, consists of high carbohydrate percentages and low fat percentages. It doesn't work because... well, if you've read about paleo and why it works then you know this much. I'm one of a tiny minority in my profession who tell people to eat diets that go against conventional wisdom (with some exceptions: e.g. as I say, eating low fat when you have gallstones WILL help with your symptoms, for example), because carbohydrate overload will make you fat faster than anything on earth. I still get met with incredulous looks when my colleagues hear what I recommend to patients, and then more of the same looks when patients come back thin Low fat diets for a long time will generally make you feel awful (because fat is so important for almost everything your body does).

Paleo (or at least primal, I can't hack paleo: I miss my milk too much!) is, broadly speaking, a good idea for almost everybody. If she eats clean, simple, whole foods, avoids (where possible) anything with an ingredients list, the words 'partially', 'processed', 'modified' and 'hydrogenated' like the plague, eats plenty of fat, and very little carbohydrate, coupled with a decent amount of exercise (no excuses!) - preferably lifting heavy things, but whatever works for her - and at a sensible (~500kcal/day) calorie deficit, and she will watch the fat melt away.

Things to lose straight away:

Pasta

Bread and bread products

Rice

Other carbs should follow in line with a paleolithic or primal diet.

[ROOCHOP]

Sure.

Following 'correct eating (conventionally)' doesn't work for the same reason it doesn't work for almost everybody: conventional wisdom is wrong. The low-fat diet you speak of has probably only worked because, by the look of it, it contains very few calories. Conventional diets of all sorts, including those usually prescribed by doctors, consists of high carbohydrate percentages and low fat percentages. It doesn't work because... well, if you've read about paleo and why it works then you know this much. I'm one of a tiny minority in my profession who tell people to eat diets that go against conventional wisdom (with some exceptions: e.g. as I say, eating low fat when you have gallstones WILL help with your symptoms, for example), because carbohydrate overload will make you fat faster than anything on earth. I still get met with incredulous looks when my colleagues hear what I recommend to patients, and then more of the same looks when patients come back thin Low fat diets for a long time will generally make you feel awful (because fat is so important for almost everything your body does).

Paleo (or at least primal, I can't hack paleo: I miss my milk too much!) is, broadly speaking, a good idea for almost everybody. If she eats clean, simple, whole foods, avoids (where possible) anything with an ingredients list, the words 'partially', 'processed', 'modified' and 'hydrogenated' like the plague, eats plenty of fat, and very little carbohydrate, coupled with a decent amount of exercise (no excuses!) - preferably lifting heavy things, but whatever works for her - and at a sensible (~500kcal/day) calorie deficit, and she will watch the fat melt away.

Things to lose straight away:

Pasta

Bread and bread products

Rice

Other carbs should follow in line with a paleolithic or primal diet.

Moose your my hero

The exercise i can vouch for, she works hard.

The one question I have about what you wrote is, what is the 500kcal/day calorie deficit mean?

Cheers

[ROOCHOP]

Realised that was a stupid question, how do you determine what 500 deficit should be?

[SpongeBob]

Yo Timmy, lets just say i have been going through a tough time, but things are looking up, will start a blog thingy soon and lay it all out. how you been keeping?

Roochop, i just noticed your signature, i actually got the reference lol, gave me a nice grin.

[JoeBlade]

Realised that was a stupid question, how do you determine what 500 deficit should be?

you can try it out with sites like http://calorieneedscalculator.com/ but keep in mind that these are at best guesses. they give a nice area to aim for though.

for me this worked (I calculated, dropped 500 and am dropping about a pound a week). it's essential to count your calorie intake. if you don't lose weight after 2 / 3 weeks then drop another 100 calories on your intake or so. if you're dropping too fast then up your intake a bit. I've read here and there that <1500 is not very healthy especially if you're active.

I use fatsecret.com for my counting (you can see i've been a bit bad recently: http://www.fatsecret.com/member/JosephBlade), but on NF I think some people are using other sites. (forgot the names or i'd plug them here as well) . I recommend shopping around for a bit until you find one that works.

again, the caloric needs as well as the calorie tracking are educated guesses so don't expect to get it right in the first few weeks but use them as a benchmark and adjust your diet accordingly.

[ROOCHOP]

Roochop, i just noticed your signature, i actually got the reference lol, gave me a nice grin.

;-)

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[ROOCHOP]

Cheers Joe thanks for the advice

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[LittleK]

Thanks everyone for all your help. Especially m00se. I don't have any other questions at the moment that haven't already covered, but it is a massive relief to know that Roochop has done a brilliant job of getting me on the right path