lucky fire dragon Posted July 17, 2016 Report Share Posted July 17, 2016 Lucky fire dragon has no plan After many ambitious challenges, some successful, some not so much, I am at a point where I don't have any plan and don't even feel like one - very unusual, but let's bear with it and see where the tides might take me, I'm confident it'll be a good place as long as I keep my head up For those who don't know me yet, I'm a 40 year old mother of three, working part time as healing practitioner and spiritual coach. I love pole dancing and have worked myself up to Level 2+ (which is still beginners but posh enough to look impressive to non-polers ), have dabbled a bit in aerial hoop and very basic gymnastic rings exercises, love singing and travelling, which I'm going to get to do in the second half of this challenge, travel that is, with my dear family to our lovely family in beautiful South Africa. Pole dance has hit a summer low in my motivation right now, which I decided is okay, but being lazy while munching all the yummies on our holiday won't be okay, so I'll have to do something, even it's not totally structured through and aiming for specific things. So here is my no-plan-plan for the coming 4 weeks 1. Get some clue I'm pulling myself towards myself and will actually count my calorie intake for the two weeks that I am still here in all detail with my fitbit app. I have no clue right now how much I take in, so how will I know what I need to burn in order for it to be balanced? Right, gotta get a clue Will report total of each day here for accountability. So far I won't judge or aim for a maximum, just tracking to know my present habits. 2. Burn some, no matter how I'll start with setting my goal at burning 2000 kcal / day and might have to adapt in the coming weeks, depending what point 1 will show... It doesn't matter how I do it as long as by midnight 2000 kcal are burned up. It's like the shopaholic girl wondering about money - either she has to spend less or make more, spending less doesn't work for her, so she opts for making more. I don't feel like limiting myself too much during holiday and family fun times, so I'll just have to burn some more let's hope I'm better at it than she is at making money Ideas to draw from for all the burns: - walking - hooping - running - rope skipping - yoga - pole dance - pilates - darebee or other workouts -... (to be extended) 3. Get clearer This is threefold: I want to keep my meditations going in the mornings which will be easy during the first two weeks as I am doing them together with some clients of mine via webinar (isn't technology awesome ) but I'd like to keep it going afterwards on my own as well. Writing diary to my Larger Self counts as well as that gets me into a happy, constructive and calm state just the same. The other parts are physical: I want to pick up some eye training again. Had a book on it a while ago, but it had too few real exercises for my taste so I got myself this great book on the Bates method by Nathan Oxenfeld "Give up your glasses for good" and since then it is lying there and simply doesn't move into my knowledge by osmosis, I might have to actually read it I don't even wear glasses, but do have a slight short sightedness that worsens when I stare at screens too long, read too much or get tired. So I'd like to catch it before I really need glasses, plus I think life would be a lot brighter with clear focus... AND I want to spot all the pretty birds and antelopes in South Africa So I'll read 15 min / day in this book and/or do exercises from it And last but not least: hydration! So helpful and yet when I don't track it I don't do it. 2 Liters of water will do for most days, sometimes I could do with more, but if I do those 2 every day I'll call it a yay For easy tracking meditation 0/28 eye training 0/28 2liters of water 0/28 Oh, and it would be awesome to take part in the mini again, of course Oh, oh, AND I will keep my improved work habits up and tackle the tougher things early on with the Monkey Tamers United again. To be absolutely recommended!! So let the games begin... Best of success everyone, let's have some FUN 6 Quote Level 18 Wood-Elf Assassin battle log: counting the good things current challenge: something, nothing, all the things previous challenges: 25, 24, 23, 22, 21, 20, 19, 18, 17, 16, 15, 14, 13, 12, 11, 10, 9, 8, 7, 6, 5, 4, 3, 2, 1 How cool is it that the same God who created mountains and oceans and galaxies looked at you and thought the world needed one of you, too Link to comment
Lightning Posted July 18, 2016 Report Share Posted July 18, 2016 That came together nicely. 2 Quote Level 23 Assassin Current Challenge "Nothing is true; everything is permitted" Link to comment
lucky fire dragon Posted July 18, 2016 Author Report Share Posted July 18, 2016 2 hours ago, Lightning said: That came together nicely. it did, didn't it Quote Level 18 Wood-Elf Assassin battle log: counting the good things current challenge: something, nothing, all the things previous challenges: 25, 24, 23, 22, 21, 20, 19, 18, 17, 16, 15, 14, 13, 12, 11, 10, 9, 8, 7, 6, 5, 4, 3, 2, 1 How cool is it that the same God who created mountains and oceans and galaxies looked at you and thought the world needed one of you, too Link to comment
Mad Hatter Posted July 18, 2016 Report Share Posted July 18, 2016 Very nice unplan. Which actually reads a lot like a real plan. 3 Quote Link to comment
Mrs Van Posted July 18, 2016 Report Share Posted July 18, 2016 NICE! 1 Quote Mrs. Van's Latest Challenge Zechariah 4:6 "Not by might, nor by power, but by My spirit, saith the Lord." Link to comment
Suzaqu Posted July 18, 2016 Report Share Posted July 18, 2016 Looks like a great (non-)plan! A good mental reset and building momentum and information for the next challenge. 1 Quote Current Challenge 24 | 23 | 22 | 21 | 20 | 19 | 18 | 17 | 16 | 15 | 14 | 13 | 12 | 11 | 10 | 9 | 8 | 7 | 6 | 5 | 4 | 3 | 2 | 1 Link to comment
lucky fire dragon Posted July 18, 2016 Author Report Share Posted July 18, 2016 13 hours ago, Mad Hatter said: Very nice unplan. Which actually reads a lot like a real plan. I know... it's like when I planned an "unchallenge" that wasn't really one either. But it's a lot less plan than it could have been!! 11 hours ago, elizevdmerwe said: NICE! 7 hours ago, Suzaqu said: Looks like a great (non-)plan! A good mental reset and building momentum and information for the next challenge. Thanks, that's the plan idea... I see this is going to be a tricky one to phrase right Gathering all the goodies for new plans to come LOVE your avatar crow pose looks awesome 2 Quote Level 18 Wood-Elf Assassin battle log: counting the good things current challenge: something, nothing, all the things previous challenges: 25, 24, 23, 22, 21, 20, 19, 18, 17, 16, 15, 14, 13, 12, 11, 10, 9, 8, 7, 6, 5, 4, 3, 2, 1 How cool is it that the same God who created mountains and oceans and galaxies looked at you and thought the world needed one of you, too Link to comment
lucky fire dragon Posted July 18, 2016 Author Report Share Posted July 18, 2016 Day 1 was already yesterday, wasn't it? Phew nearly missed it... Get a clue: no calories counted yet as I still had to come up with my non-plan Burn some, no matter how: long walk did the trick and I had hula hooped a little too2040 kcal burned, yessss Get clearer: no eye training yet for still coming up with non-plan meditation done 2 liters of water had GOOD DAY Day 2 showed me that there is no such thing as counting calorie intake without trying to stay below fitbit suggestions Am I too much of a "good girl" after all? Never mind, in this case it is good for me, so yay for that! - 1470 kcal had - 1890 kcal burned at 9pm (so 2000 will be had by midnight, yesss) EDIT: it was 2054 - meditation done - 2 liters of water had - eye training.... oops better go read For a while the burn goal looked far out, but a 45 minute walk fixed it again and now I'm good. How come walking will burn more than pole despite being so much easier?? Mystifies me, but is simple fact. Hula Hoop burned 45 calories in 10 minutes, so that comes to about the same as an intense pole session (which burns approx 230 in an hour) and still less than walking... or would it increase exponentially if I hooped for longer? But I can't do anything but ordinary waist hoop yet and it does get boring if I go on for too long... hmm Well, it's all good information already and again a GOOD DAY 2 Quote Level 18 Wood-Elf Assassin battle log: counting the good things current challenge: something, nothing, all the things previous challenges: 25, 24, 23, 22, 21, 20, 19, 18, 17, 16, 15, 14, 13, 12, 11, 10, 9, 8, 7, 6, 5, 4, 3, 2, 1 How cool is it that the same God who created mountains and oceans and galaxies looked at you and thought the world needed one of you, too Link to comment
Elastigirl Posted July 19, 2016 Report Share Posted July 19, 2016 Are you tracking calories with the FItbit? It seems pretty accurate for walking, but exercise seems low. I'll do a 45 minute ring workout and it will say 60 calories 1 Quote Wisdom 22.5 Dexterity 13 Charisma 15 Strength 21 Constitution-13 "Love the Lord your God with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your strength, and with all your mind' Luke 10; 27 Link to comment
lucky fire dragon Posted July 19, 2016 Author Report Share Posted July 19, 2016 3 hours ago, Elastigirl said: Are you tracking calories with the FItbit? It seems pretty accurate for walking, but exercise seems low. I'll do a 45 minute ring workout and it will say 60 calories yes, I am. Do you think it isn't accurate? Yes, I remember similar numbers when I worked out on the rings and was wondering how it could be so little while I was exhausted afterwards... Hm, I'd counted on it being accurate enough, really not sure how to tackle this if it isn't. Any ideas? Quote Level 18 Wood-Elf Assassin battle log: counting the good things current challenge: something, nothing, all the things previous challenges: 25, 24, 23, 22, 21, 20, 19, 18, 17, 16, 15, 14, 13, 12, 11, 10, 9, 8, 7, 6, 5, 4, 3, 2, 1 How cool is it that the same God who created mountains and oceans and galaxies looked at you and thought the world needed one of you, too Link to comment
Mad Hatter Posted July 19, 2016 Report Share Posted July 19, 2016 I think HR monitors only really work for cardio, as they can't really account for the post-training recovery demanded by strength training. But you can always adjust your calorie intake if you're dropping too quickly or feeling too fatigued. 5 Quote Link to comment
Elastigirl Posted July 19, 2016 Report Share Posted July 19, 2016 I use My Fitness Pal for tracking calories. Workouts I use the vigorous calisthenics - which is about 420 per hour. Some people say that it is too much, but it seems to be fairly accurate for me. 1 Quote Wisdom 22.5 Dexterity 13 Charisma 15 Strength 21 Constitution-13 "Love the Lord your God with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your strength, and with all your mind' Luke 10; 27 Link to comment
Mrs Van Posted July 20, 2016 Report Share Posted July 20, 2016 Walking and hula for the Win! I couldn't get the click-on Fitbit step counter to even count my steps and measure the distance accurately a couple of years ago, so I just gave up with those things. My cellphone's app (route tracker) seems accurate enough for the walking but the previous app I used for net carbs was drastically different to what Prof. Tim Noakes' books gave with Banting for net carbs, so now I'm sticking to a paper routine for that. In the end it isn't life threatening serious, so if you at least get an idea of what you are doing? 1 Quote Mrs. Van's Latest Challenge Zechariah 4:6 "Not by might, nor by power, but by My spirit, saith the Lord." Link to comment
TheFatFriar Posted July 20, 2016 Report Share Posted July 20, 2016 Glad to see you've made it here! Lately I've been feeling super discouraged, too, and not even started my own challenge. I'm not sure if I will, but I'll surely support you along the way 1 Quote Link to comment
lucky fire dragon Posted July 20, 2016 Author Report Share Posted July 20, 2016 19 hours ago, Mad Hatter said: I think HR monitors only really work for cardio, as they can't really account for the post-training recovery demanded by strength training. But you can always adjust your calorie intake if you're dropping too quickly or feeling too fatigued. True, I could do that. Just sometimes I'm tired from sitting still for too long, or from bad sleep with the cats waking us up a lot, or from hot weather,... I don't always know whats what. I'm reading a book called "Fettlogik" by a psychologist who went from 140 kg to 65 kg within one year by counting calories only and who writes about how she discovered many of the diet theories out there that seem so "logical" and proven science to people are simply myths and not even true. If you want to loose weight it doesn't even matter so much what you eat, say, as long as the amount is right and when a "diet" works it's usually because it makes people eat less than before in terms of calories. If you want to get stronger, stay healthy while loosing weight and keep your body balanced then it will make a difference what kind of food you eat, but for weight loss alone the difference lies simply in the relation calorie intake and usage. It's an interesting read and now I am curious where I generally am on that balance as I have never tracked that before. Guess it will take some time to get a more or less accurate picture of my habits. Especially as my habits change all the time 19 hours ago, Elastigirl said: I use My Fitness Pal for tracking calories. Workouts I use the vigorous calisthenics - which is about 420 per hour. Some people say that it is too much, but it seems to be fairly accurate for me. That does seem a lot. I've never looked into My Fitness Pal yet, the food tracking is so easy on the fitbit as it lists most foods from the stores where I shop my ingredients, so that part I am quite happy with. Only reason to look into MFP would be for connecting to you guys Anyone happy to connect on fitbit with me? 6 hours ago, elizevdmerwe said: Walking and hula for the Win! I couldn't get the click-on Fitbit step counter to even count my steps and measure the distance accurately a couple of years ago, so I just gave up with those things. My cellphone's app (route tracker) seems accurate enough for the walking but the previous app I used for net carbs was drastically different to what Prof. Tim Noakes' books gave with Banting for net carbs, so now I'm sticking to a paper routine for that. In the end it isn't life threatening serious, so if you at least get an idea of what you are doing? I had a step counter before that didn't work that well either. Now I have a fitbit charge and that seems well accurate on the steps, distance probably not so much as it has no gps tracking, but I don't care that much about the distance anyway. You're right, of course I'm just curious to see where I stand and am learning how big a difference it makes when I just sit around (doing client sessions and computer work maybe, but still it's sitting) most day or do housework say or lots of exercise. It's valuable input 1 Quote Level 18 Wood-Elf Assassin battle log: counting the good things current challenge: something, nothing, all the things previous challenges: 25, 24, 23, 22, 21, 20, 19, 18, 17, 16, 15, 14, 13, 12, 11, 10, 9, 8, 7, 6, 5, 4, 3, 2, 1 How cool is it that the same God who created mountains and oceans and galaxies looked at you and thought the world needed one of you, too Link to comment
lucky fire dragon Posted July 20, 2016 Author Report Share Posted July 20, 2016 19 hours ago, zenLara said: Following! 1 hour ago, Kunmaar said: Glad to see you've made it here! Lately I've been feeling super discouraged, too, and not even started my own challenge. I'm not sure if I will, but I'll surely support you along the way Thank you And DO EEEEEEET!!!!! please how am I supposed to cheer back at you Had been looking for you and am very glad to see you at least with one foot back in here Join us!! 2 Quote Level 18 Wood-Elf Assassin battle log: counting the good things current challenge: something, nothing, all the things previous challenges: 25, 24, 23, 22, 21, 20, 19, 18, 17, 16, 15, 14, 13, 12, 11, 10, 9, 8, 7, 6, 5, 4, 3, 2, 1 How cool is it that the same God who created mountains and oceans and galaxies looked at you and thought the world needed one of you, too Link to comment
TheFatFriar Posted July 20, 2016 Report Share Posted July 20, 2016 57 minutes ago, lucky fire dragon said: Thank you And DO EEEEEEET!!!!! please how am I supposed to cheer back at you Had been looking for you and am very glad to see you at least with one foot back in here Join us!! Thanks for looking for me, haha I'd love to start my own thread, but right now I have no idea what my goals should be this month. Never been so confused before! Thankfully I haven't gained much weight in the meantime, but I really don't want to do any more strength training until summer is over I'm okay with light cardio (walking, hooping etc.), though. Thanks for inspiring me, I might not have bothered to return to the forums if not for friends like you 2 Quote Link to comment
Mrs Van Posted July 20, 2016 Report Share Posted July 20, 2016 1 hour ago, lucky fire dragon said: You're right, of course I'm just curious to see where I stand and am learning how big a difference it makes when I just sit around (doing client sessions and computer work maybe, but still it's sitting) most day or do housework say or lots of exercise. It's valuable input I understand. 1 Quote Mrs. Van's Latest Challenge Zechariah 4:6 "Not by might, nor by power, but by My spirit, saith the Lord." Link to comment
Mad Hatter Posted July 20, 2016 Report Share Posted July 20, 2016 1 hour ago, lucky fire dragon said: I'm reading a book called "Fettlogik" by a psychologist who went from 140 kg to 65 kg within one year by counting calories only and who writes about how she discovered many of the diet theories out there that seem so "logical" and proven science to people are simply myths and not even true. If you want to loose weight it doesn't even matter so much what you eat, say, as long as the amount is right and when a "diet" works it's usually because it makes people eat less than before in terms of calories. If you want to get stronger, stay healthy while loosing weight and keep your body balanced then it will make a difference what kind of food you eat, but for weight loss alone the difference lies simply in the relation calorie intake and usage. It's an interesting read and now I am curious where I generally am on that balance as I have never tracked that before. Guess it will take some time to get a more or less accurate picture of my habits. Especially as my habits change all the time As far as I know the only way to lose weight that research actually supports is simply to eat less... With the caveat (which a lot of people fail to grasp) is that calorie expenditure is a changing variable that depends both on how much you move (including NEAT) and HOW you move, which calorie counting apps cannot take into account accurately. Even if your exercise and eating habits are consistent you might still expend different amounts depending on if you lie on the couch one week or if you do loads of chores the other week. But it's pretty easy to tell where you are on the scale. Literally, if you're gaining you're eating too much (unless you're bulking) or if you're losing you're eating too little (unless you're cutting). 3 Quote Link to comment
Lightning Posted July 21, 2016 Report Share Posted July 21, 2016 20 hours ago, Mad Hatter said: As far as I know the only way to lose weight that research actually supports is simply to eat less... With the caveat (which a lot of people fail to grasp) is that calorie expenditure is a changing variable that depends both on how much you move (including NEAT) and HOW you move, which calorie counting apps cannot take into account accurately. Even if your exercise and eating habits are consistent you might still expend different amounts depending on if you lie on the couch one week or if you do loads of chores the other week. But it's pretty easy to tell where you are on the scale. Literally, if you're gaining you're eating too much (unless you're bulking) or if you're losing you're eating too little (unless you're cutting). And it Doesn't help that calories and movement are hard to accurately track. I do think that the "diet" aspect is really about finding what eating plan makes it easier for you to eat less. Lower carb / higher fat diets are more satisfying and filling for me. I also hold more water weight when I eat carbs so that makes it look like I lose more weight with paleoish diets. Sugar makes me crave more sugar so of course cutting sugar is a smart weight loss plan. And eating more vegetables fills you wil fiber and water while offering low calories. In the end, calories are King. 2 Quote Level 23 Assassin Current Challenge "Nothing is true; everything is permitted" Link to comment
SymphonicDan Posted July 21, 2016 Report Share Posted July 21, 2016 I second everything Mad Hatter has said here about counting calories. Strength-bearing exercise often doesn't burn a huge amount while you do it, but will burn for several days afterwards, and the app won't take that into account. Also, while it's true that the only way to lose weight is to have a calorie deficit, whether your calories are coming from doughnuts or organic vegan grass-fed free-range kale, if you don't have a healthy diet then you'll lose weight while feeling like shit rather than feeling good. And you're more likely to have a "good" body composition (moderately low amounts of fat, moderately high amounts of muscle) if your calories have come in an appropriate form. And if you eat poorly then you'll have low energy and won't move around as much burning calories, so the process will be harder. And if you're on sugar crashes all the time you won't have much motivation so the minutiae of the diet will be harder to adhere to. Oh, and hi LFD, I've found you and I'm following 2 Quote Level 25 Cyborg Assassin [ STR 36.75 | DEX 26.00 | STA 28.00 | CON 31.25 | WIS 29.25 | CHA 24.50 ] current 5-week challenge: March 2020 external websites with my resources for... fitness & breathwork | mental math & mind sports | motivation & productivity Link to comment
annyshay Posted July 24, 2016 Report Share Posted July 24, 2016 Found you! And Dori... now to catch up.... Quote Love as thou wilt. Link to comment
annyshay Posted July 24, 2016 Report Share Posted July 24, 2016 On 7/21/2016 at 3:39 PM, SymphonicDan said: organic vegan grass-fed free-range kale Haahahahahahaha 1 Quote Love as thou wilt. Link to comment
Mad Hatter Posted July 24, 2016 Report Share Posted July 24, 2016 On 7/21/2016 at 10:39 PM, SymphonicDan said: organic vegan grass-fed free-range kale Aaaand gluten free! 3 Quote Link to comment
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