Tourennatrix Does her Dailies

[tourennatrix]

Writer's block is making the writing of this challenge hard, so here's the barebones of it:

 

Stuff that's going to just happen (or not) on its own:

Class! - Capoeira training 2-3+ times/week

Bodyweight training (primarily upper body and abs, at the gym) - 1-2 times/week

Zombies, Run! - 1-2 times/week

DareBee Combat HIIT program - 2-3 times/week (spreading it out like this makes it last ~10 weeks, and I get some HIIT in without wanting to punch someth- wait. YAY PUNCHING THINGS!)

DareBee Daily Dare - Daily, because it's fun! (Part of a PVP!)

 

Stuff that is really hard to keep up on so I'm going to be tracking it like a mofo:

Body:

*PT - Daily

*Stretching - Daily/as needed (specifically after class, running, and BWW)

*Sun Salutations - Daily, first thing in the morning

*Yoga - At least once per week. This should not be as hard as it seems to be.

Food:

*TRACK calories - Daily

*At least 100g protein - Daily

*At least 8 cups H20 - Daily.

 

By no means do I expect a perfect score. That would be laughable. But, depending on the category, would be happy with a score of 4-6. The food ones are going to be hella hard.

 

Foreseeable challenges:

In a week my work shift changes to 8-5. Going in a whole hour earlier in the morning than I'm used to means I have to get up a whole hour earlier too. Today I set my alarm for 6am, saw it was still dark out, and said 'eff that'. Tomorrow I hope to do better  Funny that soon my sun salutations are going to be before the sun. =_=

 

[tourennatrix]

And because it looks like I'm doing a bajillionty things:

 

 

The morning stuff can take up to/around an hour, but is 'modular' so if I don't have enough time to do all of it and still shower before work, i can pick a few, and do the rest over lunch, for example. I've been having fun with it the last 2 weeks, and I think I might be able to keep it up a little while longer

[Jonesy]

Following along for Dailies fun! You got this.  

[Mad Hatter]

Did you really mean to write 1300 calories? To me that sounds like a terrible idea with the amount of training you're doing!

 

Also, yay, challenge!  

[tourennatrix]

3 hours ago, Mad Hatter said:

Did you really mean to write 1300 calories? To me that sounds like a terrible idea with the amount of training you're doing!

 

Also, yay, challenge!  

 

Honestly, yes u_u. This is of course subject to change as I observe energy levels and stuff, but everything I've seen has told me 1200-1300 (which sounds crazy low compared to a lot of people, i am aware of this), particularly because I'm a smallish person and except for the couple hours of training, I literally sit for the rest of the day. And as much as I am aiming for muscle building, I am also trying to drop another 15lbs or so that have been stuck for the last year. That's why the "small" calorie goal is a good 40% protein XD

 

And this seems to be fairly close to what I'm *capable* of eating when I eat well. I mean, I could overflow my calorie goal with crackers and soda and candy, but if I'm filling my day with 5 "meals" including coconut water, fritata, greek yogurt, and other such wholesome goodness I actually get pretty full for each meal and close to the goal. 

 

I'll definitely be playing it by ear though

[Mad Hatter]

Mmkay. As long as you feel good doing it.  

[raptron]

I have to second Mad Hatter. 1300 is under a lot of people's basal metabolic rate, even. Possibly even yours! A lot of those calculators on the internet out there dramatically underestimate recommended intake for people who do ANY kind of activity. I find this one to be one of the more accurate options: http://www.health-calc.com/diet/energy-expenditure-advanced and you can do an estimate for a regular workout day and a non-workout day. 

[RogueLibrarian]

I'm in!

[tourennatrix]

3 hours ago, raptron said:

I have to second Mad Hatter. 1300 is under a lot of people's basal metabolic rate, even. Possibly even yours! A lot of those calculators on the internet out there dramatically underestimate recommended intake for people who do ANY kind of activity. I find this one to be one of the more accurate options: http://www.health-calc.com/diet/energy-expenditure-advanced and you can do an estimate for a regular workout day and a non-workout day. 

 

Ooo will have to check out when not on mobile. Thanks for looking out for me guys

[zeroh13]

I'm following! 

 

I'm in a similar boat, with wanting to build muscle, but still having an extra bit of fat I want to lose. I'll be calorie tracking this challenge too, but my goal is around 1800 calories with 100g of protein. But that's in part to having a fairly active job where I'm on my feet a lot and moving things. On the other hand, our morning schedule looks pretty similar. So I would guess that a good low end for you would be around 1400 to 1600 calories. 

 

Also, something I learned recently, is that even if your meals fill you up, that doesn't necessarily mean your body is getting enough energy. But this more becomes a factor when you're eating a lot of high fiber foods.

 

I think in the end, just go with whatever number seems reasonable to you. And yeah, definitely pay attention to what your body is telling you.

[Mad Hatter]

6 minutes ago, zeroh13 said:

even if your meals fill you up, that doesn't necessarily mean your body is getting enough energy

 

Truth.

 

7 hours ago, raptron said:

 http://www.health-calc.com/diet/energy-expenditure-advanced

 

Cute.  

[tourennatrix]

7 minutes ago, zeroh13 said:

I'm following! 

 

I'm in a similar boat, with wanting to build muscle, but still having an extra bit of fat I want to lose. I'll be calorie tracking this challenge too, but my goal is around 1800 calories with 100g of protein. But that's in part to having a fairly active job where I'm on my feet a lot and moving things. On the other hand, our morning schedule looks pretty similar. So I would guess that a good low end for you would be around 1400 to 1600 calories. 

 

Also, something I learned recently, is that even if your meals fill you up, that doesn't necessarily mean your body is getting enough energy. But this more becomes a factor when you're eating a lot of high fiber foods.

 

I think in the end, just go with whatever number seems reasonable to you. And yeah, definitely pay attention to what your body is telling you.

 

Yeah, it's a tricky thing to figure out. Last fall i went pretty close to a strict paleo diet for 2 months (November and December, somehow I stuck to it for most of those 2 months) and I was tracking calories just to see what I was eating, not to restrict anything... in a lot of cases when I did really "well", I ate my fill at mealtimes but would often come in under 1200. Some days it felt great, other days not so much. 

 

Husband loves clean diets like that because "I can have as much meat as i want?!" But I just physically can't eat a whole lot. As is, the only way I'm getting to my protein goal is by reintroducing dairy as a regular item for snacks and having a protein/kefir smothie after my workouts

 

ONWARD TO EXPERIMENTATION!

[tourennatrix]

Ok you guys HOW.

 

 

So, understanding that this does not necessarily take into consideration all variables that affect metabolism and the like (such as genetics n stuff).

And, even taking a 20% cut still leaves me at 1600-2400 (!!!) to lose weight.

 

I just... I don't even.

 

[imjustarogue]

Wait. 'Splain to me. Obviously I can see your expenditures. Then what's the next step to get magical target numbers?

[SkiBlue]

7 hours ago, black_daquiri said:

Wait. 'Splain to me. Obviously I can see your expenditures. Then what's the next step to get magical target numbers?

 

About 200 to 300 under your TEE, but not too close to your BMR. That tool (I've been using it lately, TRUST) is a pretty good estimate, but that magic number, you will have to play with. If you feel great, then it's a good starting number. If after a month, your weight decreases, then it's a good number for losing weight. If not, gotta play with it some more. 

 

Woman, you needs to feed all that MUSCLE!! Those numbers might seem big, but it'll make all the difference. If you consume below your BMR, the weight you lose will be part of those badass arms you've discovered.  There might be an initial re-feed in your system where your body packs on muscle mass it needs, but after that, it'll balance out and lose fat. It won't hurt, I promise.

[tourennatrix]

47 minutes ago, SkiBlue said:

 

Woman, you needs to feed all that MUSCLE!! Those numbers might seem big, but it'll make all the difference. If you consume below your BMR, the weight you lose will be part of those badass arms you've discovered.  There might be an initial re-feed in your system where your body packs on muscle mass it needs, but after that, it'll balance out and lose fat. It won't hurt, I promise.

 

K, so, the question still remains how to even eat that much XD yesterday I hit 2000 but there were cookies involved. As much as I love cookies, they should probably not be part of my daily feed just to make goal XD 

 

In the spirit of SCIENCE, changing my calorie goal to just tracking every day (because I don't think I've actually done that for a whole challenge since maybe this time last year) and just trying to make mindful decisions. But even on bad days when I eat nithing byt crackers and soda... ugh. Still track it!

 

I need to find a nice lunchbox so I can stop bringing a teetering pile of tupperware to work

[zeroh13]

A handful of nuts and seeds goes a very long way calorie wise. One of my favorite things to do is make my own trail mix (I prefer raw and unsalted, which you don't really get in store bought mixes). It's even better when I have the time and energy to make my own granola.

[SkiBlue]

22 minutes ago, tourennatrix said:

K, so, the question still remains how to even eat that much XD

 

THAT is the big question I have yet to find an answer to, and I love food. -.-

[Jonesy]

Your lazy TEE is about 1000 less than mine and still have no idea how you are supposed to eat that much healthy food. I like the suggestion of nuts and making your own trail mix. 

[raptron]

More fats (avocado, nuts, seeds, coconut) and more plain carbohydrates like sweet potatoes, potatoes, plantains, etc. go a long way. I personally just keep eating the cookies though. >_> 

[imjustarogue]

Mmmm cookies. 

[Mad Hatter]

3 hours ago, raptron said:

I personally just keep eating the cookies though. >_> 

 

This.  

[RogueLibrarian]

I've been afraid to open the can of worms that is calorie calculations. I'm sure I need more protein (veg), but trying to track all this just looks like more than I can handle right now. I'm following the discussion with interest to try to dispel my fears.

[imjustarogue]

8 hours ago, SkiBlue said:

 

About 200 to 300 under your TEE, but not too close to your BMR. That tool (I've been using it lately, TRUST) is a pretty good estimate, but that magic number, you will have to play with. If you feel great, then it's a good starting number. If after a month, your weight decreases, then it's a good number for losing weight. If not, gotta play with it some more. 

Ok. I think I get it now.  I'm currently breastfeeding, so I know that throws numbers out of whack, but I have my TEE for now and I may log caloric intake just for grins for a week or so just to see how I fare with intake (out of curiousity's sake since I always feel starving but know that there are days where I just gorge myself).  Thanks!  

[Jonesy]

@black_daquiriIf you're always feeling starved do you know if you are hungry or could it be another reason? I only ask because a while ago I thought I was always hungry but it turned out I was just thirsty. When I felt hungry I would drink a tall glass of water and then if  I still was an hour later I would eat something small.