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Ughhhhh your challenge over here in the Druids really makes it hard to follow. I wish that bug would get fixed so I can follow you properly. I'm only catching up on this last page but food porn is 100 so far.

 

19 hours ago, Curl Brogo said:

 

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This makes me hungry.

 

 

On 4/4/2017 at 8:04 PM, Curl Brogo said:

 

I just stayed reading It All Starts with Food aka the (first) Whole30 book. So that may be my next experiment. 

 

On 4/5/2017 at 7:55 PM, Curl Brogo said:

I'm about a third through IASWF. Mostly review of the science, but it's kinda motivating. But then every diet book is like this. 

 

Should I do this? 

 

Can I afford it?

 

Do I really buy into it (the hype)? (meh, it's a 30 day experiment)

I read ISWF and then followed up immediately with Food Freedom Forever. I found the latter to be more beneficial to me. It takes the basic idea of doing a Whole30, but then takes it a step farther with following up the Whole 30 with habit building. (get it from the library tho) It's basically 1) do a reset 2) incorporate other food back in 3) realize you need to do another reset . Which, you know... sounds like yo-yo dieting, but isn't? Hard to explain, but it makes sense when reading.

 

On 4/4/2017 at 5:35 PM, Curl Brogo said:

I still haven't gotten back on the zazen wagon just yet. The reason had been playing games on my phone... also why other stuff. I actually read the email Steve sent out a couple days ago about the really addicting game he was playing. Immediately I downloaded it, played the shit out of it while neglecting goals, the cleaning and shopping and even guitar playing.

I think this might be the opposite of what he was trying to get you to do here..... lol

 

On 4/6/2017 at 5:37 PM, Curl Brogo said:

Yeah.  I'm not sure I'd be 100% paleo after.  I feel like I'm convinced that my body is okay with soy and wheat and most grains. Legumes not so much. But even those have to be processed in certain ways. Sugar needs to go. But if doing whole 30 gives me a good reset and a good baseline,  I might be able to experiment more. 

 

I may be just seduced by the claims of the whole 30/paleo crowd. The science, the biochemistry at least,  seems to be there. But veggie nuts also have their science and anecdotal diet health miracles. 

 

(Imma bat signal@miss_marissa here and see if she'll comment on or cross post her whole 30 story)

 

I see no problem with filing my fridge with delicious meat and vegetables and some fruit, and living on those for a month. I may not need the carbs since I barely lift anymore. And I'm fine with that since I at least move at work. 

 

I'm looking for a good reset. Going veggie didn't really do it. Cutting caffeine was a big step in the right direction. I'm really chasing the neurotransmitter/hormonal recalibration. And that's what is supposed to happen. 

 

Oh haaaaaiii!!!

Here is my recap.

 

On 4/8/2017 at 8:08 PM, Curl Brogo said:

This is what whole 30 meals are supposed to look like.  I can do this for thirty days. It's really just like how I ate for keto, but I can have starchy veggies and fruit if I like.

 

So I'm doing it. This coming week will be a practice week while I finish off the perishable non paleo foods in my fridge,  and I think there's only a half gallon of milk and a few bricks of tofu. I've already cleared out the non perishable stuff, the bags of beans and rice, sugar etc and put them in a box in the closet. Then there are some condiments contesting sugar and crap,  but I moved those to the bottom shelf of the fridge door.

 

Dude... Sriracha is out :( it has sugar in it.

 

I'm actually going to make it more restrictive by excluding a few other types of foods that I suspect might cause me some issues: red meat, night shades (tomatoes, white potatoes,  and peppers etc.), and bananas. 

 

I'm gonna start the day after Easter. Easter is our next family dinner event, so I'll just eat whatever is cooked and deal with it and start on Monday. 

Typing all the rest of my thoughts here.

Yea whole 30 really is kind of like keto except more starchy veg and fruit, which makes it nice to be able to stick with more long term imo (less restriction).

Franks red hot is ok though!!!

 

For me the whole 30 was good, I definitely haven't stuck with all the habits I picked up. Certain things are definitely creeping back in, but it allowed me to help see some habits that I had not identified previously (whether good or bad is still RBD, but habits nonetheless). I'm with you that I'm not sold 100% on the science behind paleo, like it makes sense to me, but if I don't have issues with it.... meh?

 

Meal planning/prep was the biggest thing for me and that's helped me stick with some of the better habits I picked up during the 30 days (less reliance on processed food, reduced spending at the grocery store, less eating out)

 

Feel free to pick my brain on anything else specific you want to know. But I'm excited for you to start! Curious to see how you feel about it.

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3 hours ago, CourtnieMarie said:

Nomnom's kalua pig is delicious! enjoy

 

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It has begun. 

 

I crammed some pineapple in those holes with the garlic. Cuz yes!

 

I also used pink Himalayan salt because that was the only funky salt I could find at the grocery store. And I'm positive that any salt would do. 

 

And there's 4 pieces of bacon because that's what fit in the bottom of the crock,  and more bacon, and yes!

 

When it's done... around 10 am tomorrow,  I'm gonna shred it and let it simmer with some green bell peppers, onions,  and pineapple chunks. Also cuz yes!

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1 hour ago, Tanktimus the Encourager said:

You're doing this correctly, all your additions to the recipe are very good ideas. (What about draping bacon over the top of the roast as well?

 

Sigh. I did everything else right but I forgot to plug the slow cooker in before I left for dinner with the family (grandpa bday). Oh well. It's only two hours (out of 16) late. 

 

Re: bacon on top

 

Slow cookers heat from the bottom. Is rather save the extra strips for breakfast. But next time I bake a meat...

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Re: whole 30 science and Marissa's post

 

Paleo and whole 30 stand on some good scientific pillars. But it's really the biochemistry.  Things like compound x causes inflammation,  so if a food contains x, that food causes inflammation.  I think they do a good job of explaining how sugar is basically crack and that most fats are just fine.

 

The whole paleolithic thing is just at best an untested post hoc hypothesis and at worst a hackneyed narrative and marketing gimmick. We can't know exactly what most human ancestors ate all the time. Further,  I think many human populations have adapted to better tolerate certain foods,  hence not everyone has all the same sensitivities,  and some even have allergies to paleo accepted foods. These have often been my main points for resisting the paleo diet.

 

The good news is the paleo diet makes a good starting point for those who can tolerate it,  and the whole 30/9 thing outlines ways to test it out and identify which foods you are sensitive too.

 

Although I'd caution interpreting gas and bloating as identifying sensitivity,  because that could just be the result of a shift in your gut microbiome... And thus it doesn't mean you couldn't adapt that microbiome to those foods. I would consider other factors there. Idk.

 

Also soy, they didn't really justify that soy should be excluded on any real biochemical basis,  they just say it's a legume,  it has phytoestrogen which we don't know is good or bad and how much might actually affect you so don't eat it. 

 

I like tofu so that stuck out for me. Plus fruits,  and fruits that we think are veggies, are the ovaries of plants... so phytoestrogen abounds on paleo.

 

And yes I think your nutritional bases are covered with just meat/seafood,  veggies and fruit. 

 

You know what else needs our due consideration... sea vegetables like Nori, dulse, kelp, etc. (Good sources of iodine and other minerals).

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Well good morning little piggy. 

 

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Now that's how you start your day. 

 

It's already too delicious.  I'm not gonna add anything to simmer. I'll probably roast the peppers onion and pineapple and serve it as a side.  The pork on its own is so good and I can make so many other things with it, why commit now?

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1 hour ago, Curl Brogo said:

 Breakfast

 

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The last two brats, sweet potato, and spinach/eggs/cheese topped with roasted red bell peppers. 

it's so colorful and prettyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy

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At breakfast,  I actually didn't eat the second brat. I had finished the first one and all the veggies and eggs and took a moment of pause and realized I wasn't hungry and I could save it for later.

 

Here the pork all shredded up:

 

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I literally just stirred it with a single fork. I drained the fat and juice,  took a portion for what I could use this week, then put some in bags to freeze, after adding some juice back for storage.

 

Then I put the rest of the juice/fat in the fridge to separate. Then I'll freeze it scrape off the fat to save for cooking, and keep the juice to make more broth/stock. I'm saving bones and eggshells too.

 

I portioned out rib meat for lunches. It turns out some snap lock type bowls I have are the perfect size for whole 30 portions. The bottom is almost the same size as my palms and they are roughly as deep as my two hands stacked on top of each other,  so I can easily measure my batch cooked meat with those. And I've got four,  one for each work day. 

 

This is working out nicely. 

 

Next I roasted some vegetables: 

 

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Green bell peppers, onions,  and chunks of rutabaga. Thusly I vow to roast more root vegetables. 

 

I mixed that with some of the pork shoulder,  and added some seared pineapple.

 

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And I later added some Valentina got sauce... which is paleo friendly. 

 

After some thought in going to put off doing the official whole 30 until a later time when I can actually afford to buy all organic etc. I'm not 100% sure if it will be worth it,  so better to wait and do it when I might have the extra money. I'll also just let the occasional non paleo meal happen, but try to stick to the plan and pay attention to how non paleo meals make me feel etc. I also told my mom I'd be doing a strict paleo diet for 30 days and she seemed supportive so I think she'll cooperate with our monthly family dinners. 

 

Also,  I got an email yesterday to set up another phone interview for a programming position at Amazon. Same department,  but different building nearby. And definitely a better fit for what I've done and what I'm doing. So I might have the money to do a real whole30 soon enough. 

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17 minutes ago, Curl Brogo said:

Green bell peppers, onions,  and chunks of rutabaga. Thusly I vow to roast more root vegetables.

Root vegetables are life.

 

17 minutes ago, Curl Brogo said:

Also,  I got an email yesterday to set up another phone interview for a programming position at Amazon. Same department,  but different building nearby. And definitely a better fit for what I've done and what I'm doing. So I might have the money to do a real whole30 soon enough. 

That's awesome. 

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I have just completed 30 days without caffeine. 

 

I have not gone more than a week since high school. This is BIG.

 

Now I'm not sure what I'm gonna do tomorrow. 

 

Although part of me wants to chug a whole pot of light roasted Ethiopian Yirgacheffe coffee, my brain and heart and kidneys will probably freak out. 

 

I think I'm gonna start the morning with a cup of green tea and see how that affects me, my mood and sleep over the next 24 hours. If that goes okay,  I'll pick up a French press this weekend and try doing a cup in the morning. 

 

Today was the first time I brought paleo food to work. I took two hands worth of the rib meat,  and maybe two cups of the roasted veggies. Then for some snacks I had cashews and grapes. At first break I had a small handful of nuts and the same amount of grapes. At lunch I ate the meat and veggies.  After lunch I felt a little to full, so I think all I need is one hand of meat at lunch time. Then in second break,  I was on the opposite side of the warehouse so I went to the other break room... where my lunch box was not.  I went to the vending machine and just got a package of mixed nuts. But afterward, my stomach felt off. The nuts were mostly pecans,  hazelnuts,  and cashews,  but there were a few peanuts,  and it wouldn't surprise me if they were roasted in a non paleo friendly seed oil. So tomorrow I'm going to bring some cashews in a little bag that I can keep in my pocket in case this happens again. So for tomorrow,  half the meat,  and make healthy snacks more portable. 

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One cup of tea had no effect on me, or nothing noticeable anyway. I might try finishing the whole cup tho... I meant to make a small cup,  but since my giant fucking latte bowl is always handy,  I made tea in that and just drank half of it at breakfast. Might see if I've got black tea around too.

 

I had a little less meat at lunch,  and I finished the other half of the nuts I brought early. But it's not like I binged on anything.  I just ate a little bit more because i was still a little hungry. And I don't even look at the sweet stuff in the vending machine. I got some more nuts from one on my second break,  and yes they're roasted in soybean oil. But they didn't make me feel weird or sick... but I just got cashews,  not mixed nuts,  so yeah it's probably the peanuts that did it yesterday. 

 

My sleep is improving in its depth. Last night I only got maybe 4.5-5 hours and I was fine today. But it was all deep sleep the whole night through.  I even woke up at like 3:30, early,  and I almost just got up then. But staying in bed did lower my efficiency to 70%. But overall the past 1.5 weeks has increased my average from 78% to 81%

 

Thanks for swimming in my stream of consciousness. 

 

I was also working hard today. A lot more walking than usual. I really wish I had a fitbit on days like this for the bragging rights cuz I probably hit most people's daily goals they struggle with before noon. I was tired in the afternoon,  but got a burst near the end of the day when we decided to shoot to finish an extra row of shelf repairs. Then about 20 min before the end a manager asked me to get our little crew together and go gather carts and supplies for the next shift because they were nearly out. So throw more shit on top of a big pilearty the last minute.  But whatever,  I hustled my assleep off for twenty minutes and gathered up a herd of like 30 carts... people sometimes just leave them in random places in the warehouse so I walked crazy fast and up and down stairs and gathered them up. I'm freaking beat. 

 

 

 

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17 hours ago, Curl Brogo said:

 

I was also working hard today. A lot more walking than usual. I really wish I had a fitbit on days like this for the bragging rights cuz I probably hit most people's daily goals they struggle with before noon. I was tired in the afternoon,  but got a burst near the end of the day when we decided to shoot to finish an extra row of shelf repairs. Then about 20 min before the end a manager asked me to get our little crew together and go gather carts and supplies for the next shift because they were nearly out. So throw more shit on top of a big pilearty the last minute.  But whatever,  I hustled my assleep off for twenty minutes and gathered up a herd of like 30 carts... people sometimes just leave them in random places in the warehouse so I walked crazy fast and up and down stairs and gathered them up. I'm freaking beat. 

 

 

It doesn't track calories, and it only works if I have it on me, but my iPhone tracks my steps. I don't really use it as a measure of health. However, it is fun to check it and see where I am at. I beat my record yesterday since I've had the phone, 5.49 miles and 14,000+ steps.

 

Kind of weirdly it works even if I have it in my purse or a bag, or on my waist pack when hiking. 

 

Most people aren't aware it is doing this, but it's in the health app. Whatever phone you have might also have this feature. 

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9 hours ago, CourtnieMarie said:

ask for a nice tracker next birthday!

 

My actual birthday was just a couple weeks ago,  so that's a long ass wait. 

 

But, maybe if I get this promotion I can get myself a little present. 

 

Edit: the irony is that I would no longer have the bragging rights since being a programmer means I'd be back to mostly sitting on my ass all day. 

 

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It doesn't track calories, and it only works if I have it on me, but my iPhone tracks my steps. I don't really use it as a measure of health. However, it is fun to check it and see where I am at. I beat my record yesterday since I've had the phone, 5.49 miles and 14,000+ steps.

 

Kind of weirdly it works even if I have it in my purse or a bag, or on my waist pack when hiking. 

 

Most people aren't aware it is doing this, but it's in the health app. Whatever phone you have might also have this feature. 

 

It's probably using a combination of your GPS signal and the phone's accelerometer... a combination of the distance you move and hire many times it gets jostled.

 

I wouldn't be able to track my steps in the warehouse.  They are not allowed in there because we sell them, and people steal. So if everyone had a phone it would be harder to catch the thieves. Plus, most people would be playing games and listening to music and then losing productivity and/or fingers.

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I had a little bit of black tea at breakfast.  Meh. Then I had crappy vending machine coffee at both  first break and lunch... meh.  I noticed I had a little more energy,  but I was more tired at the end of the day. But no big deal. I still have a tolerance basically. 

 

I also ate half a cookie.  "B" and I have been eating lunch together, and taking about food.  He makes "chocolate chip cookies without chocolate chips" and said I should try one,  so I took a half. Tried it. Meh. They're better  with the chips. The point though,  is that I didn't start craving sugar or other junk. In fact,  I ate nothing in my second break and refused chips offered to me by coworkers. I just sat and drank my ice water saying no thanks. 

 

I also have more energy generally.  I'm still tired at the end of the day but I don't feel like I'm dragging my ass so much. And I'm starting to daydream about going to the gym again. 

 

I weighed myself when I got home today. 

 

256.0 lbs.

 

I was 263 on Tuesday and 258 yesterday.  Pounds are melting off right now. 

 

I haven't been this light in two years. Further... when we go to the break room at work we have to exit security, walking through a metal detector and when I do I take off my belt so the buckle doesn't set it off. Then I'm usually walking and putting my wallet and keys back in my pockets,  then belt last because it requires both hands. My pants normally sag down a bit til they catch themselves on some butt or thigh. But today they damn near slid off by the time I got my wallet and keys put away. 

 

 

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OMG. Everything on this plate is phenomenal.

 

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I went to the Mexican grocery in my hood. Way better choice than the organic place I went to last week. I walked out with 0.66 lbs of thinly sliced diesmillo (chuck steak), 3 poblano peppers, which I roasted,  two avocados whigh I  smashed and stirred with the juice of a lime,  and two green plantains, one of which I made into tostones.

 

 

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Easter dinner today was actually pretty paleo friendly.  Ham,  Polish sausage,  roasted vegetables,  then mac and cheese and potato salad.  I loaded up on the first three then just had a couple bites for taste of the last two. Also,  I fasted all day. I slept in quite a bit, then once I got up I went over to my parents' to help them load their pod. Wound up just patching some torn wallpaper, and not eating until dinner. I came home with a bunch of leftover ham. 

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Challenge wrap up

 

Remember that part of the challenge where I was following goals?

 

Yeah.  Neither do I.

 

Well....

 

I made our through thirty days of no caffeine,  and based in the last couple days of drinking coffee again I should probably continue not drinking it most of the time.

 

I tracked my meat consumption and sleep quality.  The first half of the challenge I stuck to a vegetarian diet. While I slept okay,  I've found they adding meat to my diet allows me better, deeper sleep.

 

That's it for the successes. I pretty much failed the other goals.  I fell of the zazen wagon, I did almost no financial management,  tho,  I did figure out that I basically just need more money and I'm in the process of interviews for promotions/role changes at work that pay much better. 

 

I did no art. 

 

But I started playing guitar again, and quite ferociously. 

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