RaspBreeze Posted February 3, 2012 Report Share Posted February 3, 2012 I'm not sure if Corn is a good happy for paleo food or if it's not, google has given me mixed answers and at this point im not even sure what corn is is it a vegetable or a grain and either way is it paleo or is it non paleo. but I want to start paleo real soon!if anybody can help me out please do! Quote Link to comment
Deansy Posted February 3, 2012 Report Share Posted February 3, 2012 This is the Paleo Food list that I follow. It's listed as to avoid. But then again, Bacon is listed as avoid but I eat it. You are right, it is hotly debated. Quote This is my weekly Blog, From Fat to Bat; one man's journey to be Batman... This is my Intro thread... Convict Conditioning:: Push Ups - lvl 2 || Squats - lvl 1 || Pull Ups - lvl 2 || Leg Raise - lvl 1 || Bridges - lvl 1 || Handstands - lvl 0 Current Body (2012.02.12) :: 5'10" || 270 lbs || Waist: 48" || Thigh: 25" || Arms: 14" || BF%: 36 || Young Bruce Level Link to comment
Cookie Posted February 3, 2012 Report Share Posted February 3, 2012 AFAIK, corn is a grain, so not paleo. Sad face. Quote Link to comment
Atalan Posted February 3, 2012 Report Share Posted February 3, 2012 Corn is a grain, but it has a fairly different genetic pathway as it is a New World plant. After my 28 day strict paleo I experimented with re-introducing corn and had no ill effects (rice and wheat, on the other hand rocked my world in the worst way possible). Go 28 days without it. Then try it. If you still feel fine after first trying it, eat on a limited basis (I try to not have it more than once every two weeks). If you intestines go all, "Oh hell no!"(it will feel like one of the worst stomach cramps/pains you've ever had) after eating it, then don't eat it. Welcome to customizing your paleo/primal diet to what you can handle. Quote Link to comment
Cookie Posted February 3, 2012 Report Share Posted February 3, 2012 Oh yay. So having corn tomorrow!---I am here: http://maps.google.com/maps?ll=-27.559730,152.914802 Quote Link to comment
Zorch Posted February 3, 2012 Report Share Posted February 3, 2012 Corn is technically a grain. While it doesn't contain gluten, it's relatively high in carbs(including simple carbs) and low in micronutrients on a per-calorie basis, similar to many other grains. I tend to lump corn in along with certain types of beans in the category of things that are not paleo, but also not too bad when consumed in moderation. I don't eat corn directly as a vegetable, but if it's served as part of a soup or salad, I don't stress about it at all. Same with many beans - I don't really eat beans much, but if there's some in my chili, I'm not going to lose sleep over it.It's not a great choice for an everyday food, but a little bit here and there is pretty harmless, in my opinion. Quote "Restlessness is discontent - and discontent is the first necessity of progress. Show me a thoroughly satisfied man-and I will show you a failure." -Thomas Edison Link to comment
wildross Posted February 3, 2012 Report Share Posted February 3, 2012 From a farmer's perspective, corn is a very specialized grass (grain). Which is why, if you're out in the country, it is not uncommon to see corn fields with grass in them (as a weed). The chemicals that kill grass, also kill corn..this is the type of problem that leads to genetic modifications of food plants. Trying to make them different enough that you can use chemicals to control the weeds. Quote Warriors don't count reps and sets. They count tons. My psychologist weighs 45 pounds, has an iron soul and sits on the end of a bar Tally Sheet for 2019 Encouragement for older members: Chronologically Blessed Group; Encouragement for newbie lifters: When we were weaker Link to comment
catspaw Posted February 3, 2012 Report Share Posted February 3, 2012 Paleo is not a religion.The reason to avoid non-glutenous grains applies equally to quinoa, rice, and corn. In other words, there are reasons to avoid all of them.If you love corn, though, try leaving them out of your diet for 30 days, and then bringing it back and see how you look, feel and perform. Quote You gotta experiment to find out what works for you.PM me with any questions about, well, anything! Current challenge: Catspaw Starts Strong Link to comment
bigm141414 Posted February 3, 2012 Report Share Posted February 3, 2012 Paleo is not a religion.The reason to avoid non-glutenous grains applies equally to quinoa, rice, and corn. In other words, there are reasons to avoid all of them.If you love corn, though, try leaving them out of your diet for 30 days, and then bringing it back and see how you look, feel and perform.Self Experimentation! It's a good thing.... Quote "Pull the bar like you're ripping the head off a god-damned lion" - Donny Shankle Link to comment
Waldo Posted February 3, 2012 Report Share Posted February 3, 2012 The other Paleo problem with corn is that you don't exactly see corn growing in the wild. Wild corn is a far cry from the stuff of nowadays so much so that it is pretty much unrecognizable as the same plant. For those that fear the horrors of modern science, the corn plant should be exibit A of a pretty much totally manmade plant. Corn is to wild plants as teacup yorkshire terriers are to wolves.(disclaimer - I'm not Paleo at all and love corn, there is simply no better way to serve heavily salted butter than to serve it on an ear of corn). Quote currently cutting battle log challenges: 21,20, 19,18,17,16,15,14,13,12,11,10,9,8,7,6,5,4,3,2,1 don't panic! Link to comment
NukeTheUnicorns Posted February 3, 2012 Report Share Posted February 3, 2012 Corn is not paleo. Corn is basically nothing but starch. It's a grain that's basically entirely devoid of nutrients. Something like 95 percent of the corn grown in the U.S. is genetically modified, too. Really, it comes down to your needs. If you absolutely need a starch, and corn is your ONLY option, then go for it. However, don't trick yourself into thinking it's beneficial to your health. It's benign at best. Quote Valar Morghulis Link to comment
Elastigirl Posted February 3, 2012 Report Share Posted February 3, 2012 The other Paleo problem with corn is that you don't exactly see corn growing in the wild. Wild corn is a far cry from the stuff of nowadays so much so that it is pretty much unrecognizable as the same plant. For those that fear the horrors of modern science, the corn plant should be exibit A of a pretty much totally manmade plant. Corn is to wild plants as teacup yorkshire terriers are to wolves.(disclaimer - I'm not Paleo at all and love corn, there is simply no better way to serve heavily salted butter than to serve it on an ear of corn).I like your disclaimer. I am Paleo and mostly avoid corn. But in the summer, oh yeah, I'm going to eat the corn on the cob with butter and salt. Frozen corn ,eh, take or leave but fresh corn on the cob is a wondrous thing. Quote Wisdom 22.5 Dexterity 13 Charisma 15 Strength 21 Constitution-13 "Love the Lord your God with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your strength, and with all your mind' Luke 10; 27 Link to comment
sashi Posted February 3, 2012 Report Share Posted February 3, 2012 For those that fear the horrors of modern science, the corn plant should be exibit A of a pretty much totally manmade plant. Corn is to wild plants as teacup yorkshire terriers are to wolves.While the corn plant might be Exhibit A, I think Grapples should be Exhibit B of frankenfruit (and I totally want to try one, but they come in packs of 4 and none of my friends want to eat one with me).Also, I'm pretty sure grapples aren't paleo. /derail Quote ________________________________________________"The truth is rarely pure and never simple." -- Oscar WildeBattle Log Old Battle Log Link to comment
Burizado Posted February 3, 2012 Report Share Posted February 3, 2012 While the corn plant might be Exhibit A, I think Grapples should be Exhibit B of frankenfruit (and I totally want to try one, but they come in packs of 4 and none of my friends want to eat one with me).Also, I'm pretty sure grapples aren't paleo. /derailI think the same thing when I see Broccoflower in the store. Quote Link to comment
Waldo Posted February 3, 2012 Report Share Posted February 3, 2012 A good picture illustrating just much much corn has been changed by humans:Most plants grown for agriculture have this to some degree, though corn is an extreme example. Quote currently cutting battle log challenges: 21,20, 19,18,17,16,15,14,13,12,11,10,9,8,7,6,5,4,3,2,1 don't panic! Link to comment
RaspBreeze Posted February 3, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 3, 2012 Thank you all so much uhm it's not that I can't live without corn I usually avoid it but I'm experimenting with some sort of way to add a crunch to my salads, I'm 100% accustomed to croutons they taste and sound fun *crunch crunch crunch* so when I realized no bread= no croutons I thought maybe I could get away with using the blue corn tortilla chips in the organic aisle of my supermarket and try breaking them up into a salad but I guess I cant lol if I go paleo i want to be 100% in otherwise I'll end up giving up if I half- ass it and dont see any results corn is a mutant = no more corn chips lolthank you again for all the help, you guys and gals are so awesomegosh i love this place Quote Link to comment
SomeoneOrOther Posted February 5, 2012 Report Share Posted February 5, 2012 It may not be quite crunchy enough, but sliced or slightly broken up almonds might add a bit of crunch to your salads. Quote Squats are the bacon of fitness, they make everything better. - CoreyD Link to comment
Loren Wade Posted February 5, 2012 Report Share Posted February 5, 2012 Paleo is not a religion.The reason to avoid non-glutenous grains applies equally to quinoa, rice, and corn. In other words, there are reasons to avoid all of them.If you love corn, though, try leaving them out of your diet for 30 days, and then bringing it back and see how you look, feel and perform.This x1000.That said, I reserve non-paleo foods (such as corn) for times when I eat out and feel like cheating a bit. (Can anyone say MEXICAN FOOD!?) Quote lobro's a druid? twitter | fb Link to comment
Zorch Posted February 5, 2012 Report Share Posted February 5, 2012 Paleo is not a religion.Love this post. Would be nice to have this post(or even a slightly-longer version) as a main-page article, because it's something many of us forget all too often. Quote "Restlessness is discontent - and discontent is the first necessity of progress. Show me a thoroughly satisfied man-and I will show you a failure." -Thomas Edison Link to comment
sashi Posted February 5, 2012 Report Share Posted February 5, 2012 I think the same thing when I see Broccoflower in the store.If I saw that in the store, I would buy it and eat it. Quote ________________________________________________"The truth is rarely pure and never simple." -- Oscar WildeBattle Log Old Battle Log Link to comment
oystergirl Posted February 5, 2012 Report Share Posted February 5, 2012 I thought I answered this one but I guess I didn't. Corn is not paleo, but it is acceptable on the Archevore diet in small doses as long as it is either fresh as a veg, or nixtomolated if using massa flour or corn meal. Once corn flour is soaked in lime water, it does not bind b vitamins and is a pretty neutral grain as long as you are not eating a lot of it. I adore my tamales every once in a while and make my own home made from scratch corn tortillas when having tacos! Another big problem with corn is that most processed products use GMO corn, and I simply do not want to eat that, cause that is definitely a NAD! Quote The real world is bizarre enough for me....Blue Oyster Cult! Oystergirl: Bad Assed Lightcaster (aka wizard!) STR: 2 | DEX: 3 | CON: 3 | STA: 2 | WIS: 4 | CHA: 5 Oystergirl's Bad Ass Lightcaster Wicked Rocking Adventure Challenge! Come visit my wicked rocking Nerd Fitness blog! Link to comment
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