RedRightHand Posted December 5, 2011 Report Share Posted December 5, 2011 Hoping this is the right place to post this; I'm new here but anxious to get started. I was all set to purchase the Rebel Strength Guide when I noticed the Rebel Fitness Guide in the store; after reading the description I'm unsure which to purchase. Any help, one way or the other, would be tremendous. About me: I'm 6'3 and seem to move between 180 - 200 lbs, though it's been closer to 200 lately. I've been working out on and off for the past 10 years; I generally really get into it for about 6-8 months, start to see results, then wander off and eat cookies for the next 6 or so months, completely erasing my progress. One of my goals is to shed the gut I've slowly been accumulating as well as add + define some muscle weight. Unsure if those are cross purposes or not. I like the gym, I like working out and I'm looking for a plan I can stick with. Which would be more appropriate: Rebel Fitness or Rebel Strength? Thanks! Quote Link to comment
Cienfuegos Posted December 5, 2011 Report Share Posted December 5, 2011 The strength guide (deluxe) has some awesome material with it. A bulk up program...slim down program...weights...body weight etc. The fitness guide I can't speak about since I don't own it. I recommend the strength guide because it will help you build the muscle needed to shed that gut. The fitness guide seems like it will help you get started with that...but won't help you build the strength and muscle mass wanted. Quote "I am the greatest, I said that even before I knew I was. I figured that if I said it enough, I would convince the world that I really was the greatest. "- Muhammad Ali Link to comment
ebm1224 Posted December 5, 2011 Report Share Posted December 5, 2011 i haven't read either but i think i may be misinformed about something. darkkent, to get rid of a gut don't you need to burn fat? building muscle is great and all but if you don't burn fat as well, the gut won't really go away...or am i just way off on this one? Quote Link to comment
Gainsdalf the Whey Posted December 5, 2011 Report Share Posted December 5, 2011 i haven't read either but i think i may be misinformed about something. darkkent, to get rid of a gut don't you need to burn fat? building muscle is great and all but if you don't burn fat as well, the gut won't really go away...or am i just way off on this one?The way I understand it is if you eat a certain amount of calories, your body can only support so much weight. If you build up 10 pounds of muscle then eat the same amount of calories as before, you shed 10 pounds of fat (a little more actually since the body has to work harder to maintain muscle).The only problem with this theory is that to build muscle mass, you need to eat excess calories to give your body the energy it needs to do the building work. This results in muscle gain and some fat gain. This is why you see a lot of talk about muscle building phases followed by fat cutting phases. Quote Massrandir, Barkûn, Swolórin, The Whey Pilgrim 500 / 330 / 625 Challenges: 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 31 32 34 35 36 39 41 42 45 46 47 48 49 Current Challenge "No citizen has a right to be an amateur in the matter of physical training. What a disgrace it is for a man to grow old without ever seeing the beauty and strength of which his body is capable. " ~ Socrates "Friends don't let friends squat high." ~ Chad Wesley Smith "It's a dangerous business, Brodo, squatting to the floor. You step into the rack, and if you don't keep your form, there's no knowing where you might be swept off to." ~ Gainsdalf Link to comment
RedRightHand Posted December 6, 2011 Author Report Share Posted December 6, 2011 Thanks all! I'm going to go with Rebel Strength and will hopefully be posting results after the new year! Quote Link to comment
scott82962 Posted December 7, 2011 Report Share Posted December 7, 2011 I think increasing the ratio of muscle mass to overall body weight is the most effective way to lose fat. I'm married to a marathoner and through her have met some pretty chubby runners! I read it explained this way - we work out, be it running or lifting or whatever, maybe one or two hours every 24 - 48 hours. The rest of the time we're pretty sedentary - working, sleeping, eating, etc. The increased muscle mass burns more energy at "idle", i.e. increases one's metabolism. So weight training is, in my opinion, a better way to lose the gut than running. Quote Link to comment
Cienfuegos Posted December 8, 2011 Report Share Posted December 8, 2011 @ebm1224: Basically it goes like this: Fat is different than muscle in that it doesn't take as much energy to keep fat as it does to keep muscle. But if you build strength, and therefore muscle, you will lose fat in the process. If you eat correctly and give your body the right ingredients you will shred fat and gain muscle. For women it is a bit different (see: http://nerdfitness.com/blog/2011/07/21/meet-staci-your-new-powerlifting-super-hero/). But for men since for some reason we can burn fat much easier than women (must be because someone a long time ago looked at a bbw and thought "Mmmm...I want all my women and kids to look like that"). Quote "I am the greatest, I said that even before I knew I was. I figured that if I said it enough, I would convince the world that I really was the greatest. "- Muhammad Ali Link to comment
Sloth the Enduring Posted December 8, 2011 Report Share Posted December 8, 2011 I think increasing the ratio of muscle mass to overall body weight is the most effective way to lose fat. I'm married to a marathoner and through her have met some pretty chubby runners! I read it explained this way - we work out, be it running or lifting or whatever, maybe one or two hours every 24 - 48 hours. The rest of the time we're pretty sedentary - working, sleeping, eating, etc. The increased muscle mass burns more energy at "idle", i.e. increases one's metabolism. So weight training is, in my opinion, a better way to lose the gut than running. To add on to this, weight training boosts your metabolism for 36 hrs. or so after you've finished, especially if you've worked your large muscles (legs & butt); running boosts your metabolism while you run. Quote “We might as well start where we are, use what we have and do what we can." – Caitlin Rivers Sloth: The Man with the Hammer battle log Link to comment
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