My husband says i'm going to hurt myself.

[spatzcat]

are these a dumb idea? they look fun. they look super fun:cool-new:

but my husband says 'well, that's a good way to hurt yourself'.

Is it better to just stick to squats or push presses?

[jdanger]

It's a legit exercise but reasonably advanced. Most people can't pull it off without any external resistance. I would probably stick to standard power stuff, other forms of plyo ect before worrying about something like this.

[spatzcat]

Define 'plyo ect' please.

[bigm141414]

Oooof, yeah I've seen this mentioned a few times as power exercise for advanced competition weight lifters. Builds an insane amount of explosive power which can be used for heavier squats and oly lifts.

I'd say at the level you are at it's gonna cause hurtiness. But that doesn't mean you can't try it without the weights.

[jdanger]

Plyometrics, running, jumping, skipping, throwing.. explosive stuff. The fast lifts (push pressed, & other Olympic lift variants) to a certain extent can be considered plyo.

The question is, what's the goal?

[mikeinscho]

plyo = explosive.

I agree, it's a pretty advanced movement and if you're not ready for it you could get hurt. If you're already proficient in box jumps, broad jumps, bounding, jump rope and are looking for something new then I could see doing this. Just use bodyweight and get really, really, really good before adding any type of external resistance.

[Guest guest4729]

That...that is hardcore. I don't even think I could do that WITHOUT a weight. Perhaps you can start there and slowly add on the bar if you're REALLY serious about doing it? Otherwise I'd be super careful because this looks like something that could easily cause injury if done improperly.

[spatzcat]

I want to try it without weight. What is the goal? to see if I can. that's almost always the goal.

[Gainsdalf the Whey]

Yeah, I foresee bar on neck if I try this.

[Gainsdalf the Whey]

Just tried it...Ow.... make sure you stretch first. Not happening with my shoes on, maybe once I change to the Vibrams and stretch.

[spatzcat]

Just tried it...Ow.... make sure you stretch first. Not happening with my shoes on, maybe once I change to the Vibrams and stretch.

lmao!!! we are alike. I swear, If I was the only one in the office, I would have tried this. AND I have my bitch boots on today. that would have been hot.

[Gainsdalf the Whey]

lmao!!! we are alike. I swear, If I was the only one in the office, I would have tried this. AND I have my bitch boots on today. that would have been hot.

There's someone 1 cube over and I'm surprised they didn't ask what the F I was doing. I almost made it, didn't get enough air to clear the clunky shoes. Should get it once I'm warmed up.

[spatzcat]

We'll compare notes later tonight. definitely trying after steak dinner. in my pj's too.

[jdanger]

I want to try it without weight. What is the goal? to see if I can. that's almost always the goal.

As valid a goal as any.

Yeah without load and especially on carpet this thing isn't the most dangerous thing you're likely to do on a given day. I've done them in the past and now I'm wondering how much I can do. I should probably make sure I've got my insurance card with me before I start my workout.

Hey y'all watch this..

[Timmy M]

i remember doing this as a kid (minus any sort of resistance obv) and just tried it, first time i went straight to my toes, second time got it good... still wouldn't dare use a bar with it lol

[ETFnerd]

we do this in karate all the time, getting up from a kneeling position. it's not that hard if your legs are reasonably strong, this being without the barbell of course.

i'd say the danger is if you land with the barbell in the fully flexed bottom-of-the-squat position because you can't jump that high, then your joint has no give to bear the load. At best you hyperextend your knee, at worst you blow it out...

[Gainsdalf the Whey]

Tried it, wasn't that bad. I think I could get it with at least just the bar. It could definitely be a good workout for your posterior chain, it felt like the same motion I do when doing kettle bell swings. Video attached cuz I got video happy today. Took Video of my squats and deadlift as well, gonna post them on my blog now.

[Atalan]

Looking at the jump, it seems 90% of what you're doing comes from driving your hips. Is this true?

(also, something I'm putting in my goals, but having it be while wearing my armor).

[oystergirl]

pretty sure that Zuzanah Light of body rock TV did this in a number of the older routines but of course just as a body weight exercise and I can't for the life of me remember what she called it but when I saw her do it I was like--um, no..

if you have ever had any knee or ankle ligament or tendon issues this is not for you. If you have always had strong knees and you are good at as they say plyo moves then try it. You could probably do it first holding onto a bar for support just to get the movement right.

I like the goal of doing something just to see if you can, its how I kicked myself straight in the face in ballet class....LOL

[Gainsdalf the Whey]

I wouldn't say if you EVER had knee issues don't do it, just recently. I had bad knees after the pounding they took in high school football but they healed up after a few years of low impact.

[oystergirl]

Ok corey, you called me on the one thing I tell people not to do...never say NEVER or ALWAYS LOL sorry--you are right, my point was if you have weak knees....you get it.

[ETFnerd]

Corey, good job on your video... you da man...

if you go to the 10 second mark of this video, you'll see a much more difficult technique called the recumbent chain whip. in essence you sit on the floor with your legs straight out in front of you and you kip up off the floor enough to clear the chain whip using no hands or arms. try it using a jumprope or anything you can slide under your entire body:

this video shows a friend of mine, john su who is a world champion hard okinawan and wushu forms competitor on team paul mitchell karate. he does the recumbent chain whip technique at 1:27 in this video. the whole form is worth watching. he's an amazing athlete:

[Guest guest4729]

this video shows a friend of mine, john su who is a world champion hard okinawan and wushu forms competitor on team paul mitchell karate. he does the recumbent chain whip technique at 1:27 in this video. the whole form is worth watching. he's an amazing athlete:

That is the coolest thing I've seen in a long time. Wow. I am SUPER impressed by his skill.

[ETFnerd]

I didn't see it the first time, but ken leung at 1:15 of the first video does the recumbent chain whip not seated but lying down, and is able to whip the chain underneath his entire body. Now lie down flat on the ground and try to kip up enough to slide anything under your entire body without using your hands and arms or getting up...

[Atalan]

I'm not even sure what muscles to use to try to do that (though sitting down and doing it would probably make me realize. I've always had a rather good instinct on how to do things).