dancadera Posted January 24, 2012 Report Share Posted January 24, 2012 Hey guys...yeah, I know it's "maximum" reps but when is maximum exactly?1. When you stop doing an exercise properly (ie...sagging during pushups) or...2. Complete and utter shutdown (ie...arms twitching like crazy/drop to the ground during planks)I have been doing #2, but after watching the push up video Steve was saying as soon as you stop doing them properly to stop so now I'm not exactly sure. Like doing pushups at some point I will start to sag but can probably will myself into a very difficult and slow extra pushup or 2.Thoughts? Thanks! Quote Link to comment
bigm141414 Posted January 24, 2012 Report Share Posted January 24, 2012 For me it is when form slips. If I keep going it will just lead to injury, especially in heavy squats/dead lifts. Quote "Pull the bar like you're ripping the head off a god-damned lion" - Donny Shankle Link to comment
Guest Snake McClain Posted January 24, 2012 Report Share Posted January 24, 2012 I personally if it is weighted exercises go with option number 1. If it is body weight related i go with number 2. Quote Link to comment
Gainsdalf the Whey Posted January 24, 2012 Report Share Posted January 24, 2012 Both? For training and exercising the muscles, it's when form slips, because as others said, it can lead to injury. For competition, it's whatever the competition rules say. Like for parallel squats, as long as you get your thighs down to parallel and back up, it counts right? I wouldn't train like that though. Quote Massrandir, Barkûn, Swolórin, The Whey Pilgrim 500 / 330 / 625 Challenges: 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 31 32 34 35 36 39 41 42 45 46 47 48 49 Current Challenge "No citizen has a right to be an amateur in the matter of physical training. What a disgrace it is for a man to grow old without ever seeing the beauty and strength of which his body is capable. " ~ Socrates "Friends don't let friends squat high." ~ Chad Wesley Smith "It's a dangerous business, Brodo, squatting to the floor. You step into the rack, and if you don't keep your form, there's no knowing where you might be swept off to." ~ Gainsdalf Link to comment
bprime Posted January 24, 2012 Report Share Posted January 24, 2012 For the most effective training, "max" reps should be between n-3 to n-1, where n is failure.In many/most cases, you should leave a couple in the tank. Quote My life. My dreams. http://dreambigsquatbigger.blogspot.com Hey! I'm actually updating this thing now Link to comment
gugi9000 Posted January 24, 2012 Report Share Posted January 24, 2012 For the most effective training, "max" reps should be between n-3 to n-1, where n is failure.In many/most cases, you should leave a couple in the tank.That's what Paul Wade suggests too. And I think Tim Ferris, IIRC. Quote (Fitocracy | Runkeeper) Link to comment
161803398874989 Posted January 25, 2012 Report Share Posted January 25, 2012 That's what Paul Wade suggests too. And I think Tim Ferris, IIRC.Wade is fictional for all we know, and I'm not too sure about Ferris.But, yeah, for all exercises, form failure. Thing is, if you can't complete a rep with proper form, your muscles can't handle the task set to them, so it's muscular failure as well. By completing reps with bad form, you're just exercising muscles that are not part of the target group, so you're doing a whole lot of work for nothing. Quote Quare? Quod vita mea non tua est. You can call me Phi, Numbers, Sixteen or just plain 161803398874989. Link to comment
Oogiem Posted January 25, 2012 Report Share Posted January 25, 2012 I've been told that max reps is with proper form. Once form slips you stop and that's your max. Quote Oogie McGuire Black Sheep Shepherdess STR 4.25 | DEX 4.5 | STA 3.75 | CON 3 | WIS 4.75 | CHA 1 Link to comment
CapN_Tommy_Sunshine Posted January 26, 2012 Report Share Posted January 26, 2012 I know that Pavel Tsatsouline always says to stop when form breaks down, and never go to failure. Quote Link to comment
dancadera Posted January 27, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 27, 2012 Interesting, thanks for the answers. I guess in a way I feel like if I don't go to failure (say in push ups) I'm just half-assing it if I feel I can still squeeze one or two out. Maybe that's the point I should stop though? I feel like if I had a trainer they'd be pushing me to get that last one in. I dunno. Quote Link to comment
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