Mikhail Piluskin Posted September 20, 2013 Report Share Posted September 20, 2013 So I just read through this article from NBC that points towards artificial sweeteners likely being bad for you. I haven't had time to do the leg work and look through any of the studies that they are referencing. I thought it was interesting that the Mainstream may be coming to a realization that many already knew. What are your thoughts on artificial sweeteners? Do you use any artificial sweeteners? If you do, does this article sway you in the least to limit/stop you intake? Quote Mikhail Piluskin, Level Zero!!!"Lesson number 1, sometimes to gain ground you need to slow down." Zeddicus Zul Zorander Link to comment
AnnleaArtsy Posted September 20, 2013 Report Share Posted September 20, 2013 I never started with the intake so it was always easy for me to turn away and say no thanks. And it just never looks...natural or right to me. So again it was easy to turn down. Basically for me anything that isn't fresh produce or come straight from an animal is just fake and probably not good for you. Eating right and taking care for yourself is so basic and easy but it's the mainstream media that make it confusing. Another example are the smoothie articles that are floating around saying that juices or smoothies are bad for you. First thing that popped into my head was "no shit" Now if you make your own out of kale, fruits or whatever then obviously their good. But if you buy them from the store. Nuh uh. I won't even drink the mama chia drinks every ones excited over. (Sorry went way off the artificial sweetner thing) Quote Link to comment
cobaltflash Posted September 20, 2013 Report Share Posted September 20, 2013 I didnt use artificial sweeteners because they creep me out if im going to eat sugar its going to be natural its more delicious anyway. Quote Level 5 Idiot Assassin STR: 22 DEX: 11 STA: 14 CON: 10 WIS: 0 CHA: 14 Link to comment
Mikhail Piluskin Posted September 20, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 20, 2013 Personally, I abstained for quite some time. Not for any philosphy about where good food comes from rather, I found the after taste absolutely repellant. Within the last year or so, I was turned onto Coke Zero and the other Zero products, which seem to mask the awful aftertaste much better (I think they just use more salt). Paleo and the philosophy behind it has given me the tools, knowledge, and fortitude to politely deny someone offering me one of these products. If I put sugar in anything (coffee, tea, etc.) I have been opting for sugar in the raw, honey, or agave nectar, but that isn't often as of late. Quote Mikhail Piluskin, Level Zero!!!"Lesson number 1, sometimes to gain ground you need to slow down." Zeddicus Zul Zorander Link to comment
Minty Keen Posted September 22, 2013 Report Share Posted September 22, 2013 I use stevia in my green tea (iced green tea in summer!). I get the liquid kind... it comes with an eyedropper style lid. You only need about 3-4 drops to make it sweet. But stevia is a natural sweetener... OH. I also make my own chocolate. Takes 10 minutes, is healthier than any chocolate you'll find in a health food store.There's a bit of real, Canadian (since that's where I live at) maple syrup in my chocolate. Low glycemic, and suuuper sweet. Just enough to add a little awesome. Quote Primal ChaiRace: Human | Class: Adventurer [Level: 0 | STR 0 | DEX 0 | STA 0 | CON 0 | WIS 0 | CHA 0 ] "That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence." - Christopher Hitchens Link to comment
Ceasefire Posted September 23, 2013 Report Share Posted September 23, 2013 I try to avoid anything with artificial sweetners simply because I don't enjoy the taste. It leaves a 'sticky' sweet feeling in the back of my throat which I don't like and makes my stomach cramp up from certain foods. It's either real sugar or nothing for me. Quote Pixie Ranger Drunk on Tea~ (ノ◕ヮ◕)ノ*:・゚✧ Link to comment
Sambalina Posted September 24, 2013 Report Share Posted September 24, 2013 I stay away, as many have already said, because of the aftertaste. It really hangs around and is so sickly. Quote Warrior Princess Eating Psychology Coach Adventure's Guild Challenge winner: Challenge #24 â•‘ Live the Whole â•‘ Bucket List â•‘Level up my Lifeâ•‘ "Don't ever save anything for a special occasion. Every day you're alive is a special occasion." Link to comment
Waldo Posted September 24, 2013 Report Share Posted September 24, 2013 The idea that zero calorie sweeteners are bad for you is pretty much a bunch of conspiracy theory, fear mongering, sensationalist nonsense. They are the most studied foods/food additives by a very wide margin and have always been found to be perfectly safe. Believing zero calorie sweeteners are bad for you is pretty much a case of confirmation bias; you want to believe they are bad for you thus seek out and agree with unobjective literature that agrees with that sentiment and discard everything else. Zero calorie sweeteners have been commonplace for more than 30 years. At some point people just have to accept their existence. One could buy the aspartame gives you cancer hoaxes from the early internet era, but come on, its been 20 years since then, you don't honestly still believe that crap. And they all aren't "artificial", zero calorie is a more proper term. "Artificial" is just another chemophobe code word a la "processed". Quote currently cutting battle log challenges: 21,20, 19,18,17,16,15,14,13,12,11,10,9,8,7,6,5,4,3,2,1 don't panic! Link to comment
AnnleaArtsy Posted September 24, 2013 Report Share Posted September 24, 2013 The idea that zero calorie sweeteners are bad for you is pretty much a bunch of conspiracy theory, fear mongering, sensationalist nonsense. They are the most studied foods/food additives by a very wide margin and have always been found to be perfectly safe.Believing zero calorie sweeteners are bad for you is pretty much a case of confirmation bias; you want to believe they are bad for you thus seek out and agree with unobjective literature that agrees with that sentiment and discard everything else.Zero calorie sweeteners have been commonplace for more than 30 years. At some point people just have to accept their existence. One could buy the aspartame gives you cancer hoaxes from the early internet era, but come on, its been 20 years since then, you don't honestly still believe that crap.And they all aren't "artificial", zero calorie is a more proper term. "Artificial" is just another chemophobe code word a la "processed".But the idea of staying away from sugar majority of the time...any kind of sugar....is STILL healthier then any sugar at all. My way of living 80 percent of the time is unless it has nutrional value that is from the ground or an animal then I just won't put it into my body. That isn't fear or nonsense. It's just a more simple way of living. Quote Link to comment
UltanBoyd Posted September 24, 2013 Report Share Posted September 24, 2013 But the idea of staying away from sugar majority of the time...any kind of sugar....is STILL healthier then any sugar at all. My way of living 80 percent of the time is unless it has nutrional value that is from the ground or an animal then I just won't put it into my body. That isn't fear or nonsense. It's just a more simple way of living. True, possibly. However I agree with Waldo it can be easy just to say it's bad because it's artificial. Seeing as cooking things is a chemical process as is fermentation, homogenisation, pasteurisation etc etc Quote Level 2 Half-Sidhe Archer (Toolkitted Ranger) |Str 3|Dex 3|Sta 2|Con 3|Wis 2|Cha 1| Introduction: Roll your own adventure! DBL: Aim to Misbehave! Challenge 1, 2, Browncoats 1, 2 Link to comment
AnnleaArtsy Posted September 24, 2013 Report Share Posted September 24, 2013 True, possibly. However I agree with Waldo it can be easy just to say it's bad because it's artificial. Seeing as cooking things is a chemical process as is fermentation, homogenisation, pasteurisation etc etc Makes since considering there are people out there who actually follow that raw diet and apparently are in amazing health. I can't bring myself to test that one out... But for me overall it's not just about health or even the studies. It's about simplicity. Less stuff we buy easier it is to eat what we consider healthy. Adding in artificial sweetners, buying things that are packages etc kinda make it more complicated then it needs to be for us. Quote Link to comment
insanity Posted September 24, 2013 Report Share Posted September 24, 2013 I've been noticing more and more that mainstream seems to be moving down a new health path so to speak. Just yesterday I saw an article that was promoting time in the sun.... without sunscreen... I had to do a doubletake... Quote "Insanity - you make my world a better place man, you really do! That shit is awesome! :D" - Guzzi- My first challenge My battle Log: Insanity: Warrior Monk Honorary Ranger dubbed by DarK_RaideR, 1000 Pound club (875 of 1000) Link to comment
Waldo Posted September 24, 2013 Report Share Posted September 24, 2013 But the idea of staying away from sugar majority of the time...any kind of sugar....is STILL healthier then any sugar at all. My way of living 80 percent of the time is unless it has nutrional value that is from the ground or an animal then I just won't put it into my body. That isn't fear or nonsense. It's just a more simple way of living. It absolutely is not healthier to avoid sugar. If you are diabetic, or lead a couch/chair based existence, chances are you're better off avoiding as much sugar as possible. Sugar is merely carbohydrate. All carbohydrate becomes sugar in the body in relatively short order, our bodies excel at making that conversion. Carbohydrate is one of the 3 MACRO nutrients; macronutrients are the nutrients that actually matter. Carbohydrate is the superior fuel for physical activity by a very wide margin, and the superior fuel for our brains. If you are an active person, you should seek out, not avoid, carbohydrate, including sugar. Quote currently cutting battle log challenges: 21,20, 19,18,17,16,15,14,13,12,11,10,9,8,7,6,5,4,3,2,1 don't panic! Link to comment
Duality Posted September 24, 2013 Report Share Posted September 24, 2013 It absolutely is not healthier to avoid sugar. If you are diabetic, or lead a couch/chair based existence, chances are you're better off avoiding as much sugar as possible. Sugar is merely carbohydrate. All carbohydrate becomes sugar in the body in relatively short order, our bodies excel at making that conversion. Carbohydrate is one of the 3 MACRO nutrients; macronutrients are the nutrients that actually matter. Carbohydrate is the superior fuel for physical activity by a very wide margin, and the superior fuel for our brains. If you are an active person, you should seek out, not avoid, carbohydrate, including sugar.qft Quote It's not 80% diet, 20% exercise, it's 100% diet, 100% exercise. Give it your all. My journey (Date - Total - BF % - LBM) 2012-01-01 - 242 - 35% - 157 2013-12-15 - 172 - 10% - 155 2016-05-01 - 231 - 25% - 173 Link to comment
AnnleaArtsy Posted September 24, 2013 Report Share Posted September 24, 2013 It absolutely is not healthier to avoid sugar. If you are diabetic, or lead a couch/chair based existence, chances are you're better off avoiding as much sugar as possible. Sugar is merely carbohydrate. All carbohydrate becomes sugar in the body in relatively short order, our bodies excel at making that conversion. Carbohydrate is one of the 3 MACRO nutrients; macronutrients are the nutrients that actually matter. Carbohydrate is the superior fuel for physical activity by a very wide margin, and the superior fuel for our brains. If you are an active person, you should seek out, not avoid, carbohydrate, including sugar.Ok but there are healthy sugars out there. I am not talking about avoiding them all together. I am talking about the additional sugar. The sugar that you find in natural sources example..fruit I'm sure is better then what comes in a packet, candy or cake. Quote Link to comment
I-Jo Posted September 24, 2013 Report Share Posted September 24, 2013 You're body has a special sensor that processes proccessed sugar differnetal than natural sugar? meh- sugar is sugar. I eat ice cream and fruit- I try to keep it down to a dull roar- but I'm under calories- I don't care. Quote Link to comment
AnnleaArtsy Posted September 24, 2013 Report Share Posted September 24, 2013 Not necessarily but refined sugar makes me crash if I am not moving 100 percent all the time. Where as if I avoid it most (not all) of the time I just stick to fruit it gives me energy. Either way all I know the more fresh food I eat the better I feel. Just a personal choice Thats all I can go by so I will just leave it with that. Quote Link to comment
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