Annoying comments you hear all the time

[Timmy M]

on accident sounds so ridiculously wrong... and whoever that was in that lecture is an absolute hero

[marionette]

"Cobb salad isn't healthy, its got bacon and avocado and eggs!"

[Timmy M]

2 letters and an apostrophe make all the difference eh?

[goodbyeharrison]

conversate.

 

Enough said.

[Wolfhorde]

Irregardless. Talking about negative.

 

And any possible sentence that explains a rather obvious reference + any form of "why does X not have any common sense? what's happened to common sense?"

[marionette]

That shouldn't take you long.

 

Normally heard when they want me to cut, paste, reformat and edit something submitted as a pdf from a consultant so we can ship it off to the potential clients.

[Guest CyborgNinja]

Honestly, what bothers me the most is when anyone tries to tell me about the diet they're on to try to get me on board.

 

I hate it the most when people try to use "studies" to sway me. I believe in body sensitivity plus a little common sense. Your body most definitely knows what it needs, and if you shut up and listen it will gladly tell you through cravings what you ought to eat. All it takes is a little common sense to moderate that - like, if you're craving McDonald's it's more likely you're really short on something contained in McDonald's type food that could be acquired from some healthier source, which could also be discovered from cravings if you do it right.

 

I pretty much just wander through stores buying supplies based on feel, although I do have a few staples: fish, frozen vegetables, rice and an impressive spice drawer.

 

With that in mind it never ceases to piss me off when clumsy fat weak nothings try to tell me to "give up all of that listening-to-your-body crap and do XYZ diet, based on PROVEN TRUE SCIENCE!!!one."

 

I'm actually gonna start giving them a line of crap about how I'm actually on a new diet consisting of a Power Drink of bacon grease, crisco and refined white sugar and seeing great weight loss results. I'll make up some crap about how the omega 6 fatty acids help to balance your hormone levels and gives you energy while the sugar stimulates your metabolism. I'll have to say it with a really straight face and do whatever I can to pad it with extra fake scientific "facts" to make it sound extra convincing.

 

The goal is that they start to be convinced by it so I can drop the facade and chew them out for being retarded sheep who believe any fool thing anyone has to say so long as "scientists" tell it to them.

[girljen]

 

"Why do you work out? youre so skinny." -----hmm maybe to be healthy. shocker, i know. Apparently being naturally thin means it's an excuse to be a couch potato and not lift a finger. 

 

"Why are you watching what you eat? youre already skinny"---- maybe i don't want to fill my body full of crappy processed food that you are unable to pronounce. Oh yeah and because mcdonalds is freaking disgusting.

 

I get those too.  I know it doesn't look like I need to work out, but I do.  These people are seeing me with long sleeves and long pants piled on, which leads them to say:

 

"You're wearing long sleeves! Don't you realize it's summer?!"

1.  Season doesn't matter if the air conditioner is on full blast, which it always is in public places.  I am COLD.

2.  When I go outside, that big glowing orb in the sky tries to kill me with cancer. (seriously--I am at huge risk for skin cancer and a couple of my moles already look a little wonky)    I will stay as covered up as I possibly can without dying of heatstroke, slather on the sunscreen, and stay in the shade.

[I-Jo]

GUuuuuuuuuuurrrrrrrrrrrrllllllllllll

I feel you.

 

I love being pasty.  people ask me all the time why I don't tan or why I'm so freaked out about it.  I hate being tan- I hate hate hate it.

 

Plus it clashes with my essence.

Goth people are not typically tan people.  It clashes.

[BadWolf]

Beginning of this last 6 week challenge

Person: Oh, why aren't you eating grains? Do you have celiac?

Me: No, I'm trying out this Primal lifestyle thing, so I'm not eating grains, added sugar, processed stuff, etc...

Person: Well the only reason not to eat grains is if you have celiac.

Me: People also stop eating them because (insert basic summary of Primal/Paleo).

Person: *starts laughing hysterically* Oh, please like we haven't evolved enough in the last 10,000 years to eat wheat *continues to lol*

Me: Well, we'll see, it's an experiment. If it works for me I will keep doing it.

Person: *walks away when I stop looking at her and go back to my work*

 

Today with same person

Person: I'm hungry, but if I eat when I'm starving then I won't lose weight!

Me: *in my head: so if you reach starving point then you just don't ever eat again?* Well, if you're starving you should eat something, it doesn't help to feel that hungry.

Person: No no, when you're losing weight you always feel hungry

Me:*goes back to work*

 

I have not told her that I eat when I'm hungry, that I've lost weight and many inches these last 6 weeks, and that I sleep better, have more energy, and don't plan on going back. Nor did I share that 10 other people I know have been inspired to try this whole "primal thing" out since I started. Nor have I commented on her adventures with WW, because I don't care. It's her choice, as this is mine and I wish she'd be as courteous to my face as I am to hers, regardless of the fact that she has lost and gained and lost the same 10# over and over. Her choice, but don't tell me that what I'm doing is dumb or won't work when it is. BLARGHFCK.

[MissyMo87]

One of my friends has started selling some fitness/health/whatever supplement. Almost everyday I see a post on my news feed similar to this "This worked for me I guarantee it will work for you!" or "I lost this much weight and dropped this many sizes in only 8 days! you can too!"

 

Don't get me wrong I'm happy she's been able to do this and is enjoying trying to sell this product, but when she tells me what it does I'm a little creeped out. This product almost sounds like taking a laxative everyday, and is almost completely liquid. 

 

Again I'm glad she's able to lose weight and make money, but everyday seeing "I lost this much in 8 days and so can you if you use this and do exactly what I did!" drives me just a bit nuts. 

[Timmy M]

GUuuuuuuuuuurrrrrrrrrrrrllllllllllll

I feel you.

 

I love being pasty.  people ask me all the time why I don't tan or why I'm so freaked out about it.  I hate being tan- I hate hate hate it.

 

Plus it clashes with my essence.

Goth people are not typically tan people.  It clashes.

 

the joys of being half irish puts me in this category, can't tan to save my life so fuck it i'm the Pasty Hulk (when i get big enough ) one of my friends who loves watching wrestling calls me Seamus sometimes lol

 

downside being rock all definition regardless of bf% (doesn't mean i ain't trying!)

[I-Jo]

One of my friends has started selling some fitness/health/whatever supplement. Almost everyday I see a post on my news feed similar to this "This worked for me I guarantee it will work for you!" or "I lost this much weight and dropped this many sizes in only 8 days! you can too!"

 

Don't get me wrong I'm happy she's been able to do this and is enjoying trying to sell this product, but when she tells me what it does I'm a little creeped out. This product almost sounds like taking a laxative everyday, and is almost completely liquid. 

 

Again I'm glad she's able to lose weight and make money, but everyday seeing "I lost this much in 8 days and so can you if you use this and do exactly what I did!" drives me just a bit nuts. 

 

oh is it insagenix or whatever?

 

my friend sells that crap- we had a thread about it- that shit's annoying as hell.  I can't stand how pushy they are- that shit just sounds nasty. 

 

the joys of being half irish puts me in this category, can't tan to save my life so fuck it i'm the Pasty Hulk (when i get big enough ) one of my friends who loves watching wrestling calls me Seamus sometimes lol

 

downside being rock all definition regardless of bf% (doesn't mean i ain't trying!)

yeah- I tan up just fine- I just dislike it tremendously.  I'm very Scottish so I'm surprised I do tan up fine- but I just dislike it- I"m super tan for me right now (which still isn't very tan) but I'm not happy with the amount of "tanishness" going on.   bleck- I'll take myself pasty thank you.  

[MissyMo87]

oh is it insagenix or whatever?

 

my friend sells that crap- we had a thread about it- that shit's annoying as hell.  I can't stand how pushy they are- that shit just sounds nasty. 

 

 

I think the name is advolite or something like that.  Ya it drives me nuts she's tried to get me on it before I did think about it, but I also wondered what effects it has on the body and how easy it may be to put weight back on. In the end I came here and it's worked better for me than anything else has

[AceVixen]

I hate it the most when people try to use "studies" to sway me. I believe in body sensitivity plus a little common sense. Your body most definitely knows what it needs, and if you shut up and listen it will gladly tell you through cravings what you ought to eat. 

 

As a scientist, man, I love the studies! But they've got to be read with a critical eye. It's no good receiving a study as gospel. Studies are only as good as the methods, and only apply within the very small parameters of the experiment, which may or may not apply to your own personal situation. It bugs the hell out of me when someone will takes one paper as GOD'S OWN TRUTH, and then won't even entertain any ideas outside of that box.

 

Here's some science you might like though: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Specific_appetite ;-)

[fengor]

As a scientist, man, I love the studies! But they've got to be read with a critical eye. It's no good receiving a study as gospel. Studies are only as good as the methods, and only apply within the very small parameters of the experiment, which may or may not apply to your own personal situation. It bugs the hell out of me when someone will takes one paper as GOD'S OWN TRUTH, and then won't even entertain any ideas outside of that box.

 

Here's some science you might like though: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Specific_appetite ;-)

 

 

Iḿ not a scientist just a computer programmer but i love studies as well As you said you have to have a critical eye. Normally these are the questions I ask myself when reading a paper:

 

- who paid for it?

- how was the sample group selected? is there any visible bias?

- how does the sample group rely to me?

- what was getting measured?

- are those the measurements i be interested in if i would conduct the study?

[Wolfhorde]

I think one of the problems is how media conveys scientific data and how people learn to handle/interpret it.

First, almost every media outlet (except for specialist literature) blows scientific findings out of proportion. I remember a neuroscientific experiment a few years back that examined simple choice processes in the brain and concluded that a these are decided by our brain before we consciously decide to act on them.  I mean this isn't an utterly novel concept, it's basically habits - or our brain making a decision based on a priori knowledge but this was almost never mentioned within that context.

Then, there are the erroneous notions among people or rather fractions of people that science is "objective", that data speaks for itself and that complex system are monocausal. (be it historical evaluations or human relationships)

I think it's sad that certain people seem to people miss the fact that science isn't a one way street, it's a dialogue (of progress).

 

Speaking of which statements like "How can [insert person or people} think like this/that? + [insert subject you dislike] is [insert negative adjective]" make my skin crawl, I can't stand willful narrow-mindedness.

[Guest CyborgNinja]

As a scientist, man, I love the studies! But they've got to be read with a critical eye. It's no good receiving a study as gospel. Studies are only as good as the methods, and only apply within the very small parameters of the experiment, which may or may not apply to your own personal situation. It bugs the hell out of me when someone will takes one paper as GOD'S OWN TRUTH, and then won't even entertain any ideas outside of that box.

 

Here's some science you might like though: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Specific_appetite ;-)

 

That's very interesting and happens to agree with me, but even that I don't assign a lot of value to for reasons discussed below.

 

I think one of the problems is how media conveys scientific data and how people learn to handle/interpret it.

(...)

 

I think it's sad that certain people seem to people miss the fact that science isn't a one way street, it's a dialogue (of progress).

 

 

You brought up a lot of interesting and true points. I'd like to focus on the last one you mentioned - progress - to more fully explain to AquaDash why I choose not to allow science into my decision making process when it comes to my nutrition.

 

I have noticed in my years that people - even the scientists themselves - have a powerful tendency to act as though reality has changed because a new theory has come into vogue. In the pre-Atkins days, everyone by default operated on the assumption that low fat mostly-vegetarian dieting was "good for you." In the post-Atkins days, and now the post-paleo-craze days, the same people are now ex-vegetarians, scoffing at their own previously held ideas and saying that "everyone knows humans evolved to eat (X)," also carrying the underlying assumption that what humans evolved on is 100% going to be what's best for them in all cases.

 

The debate has changed several times, but every time the debate changes everyone acts as though their new consensus - their social reality - actually changes the biological outcome of what a person eats or fails to eat.

 

This is why I believe in no diets or nutritional theories, I am 100% "nutritionally nihilistic" beyond a few underlying assumptions of my own, that I consciously and willfully choose:

 

#1: High nutrient density/natural food is better than low nutrient industrial products

#2: If fat people regularly eat something, you should never eat it

#3: Go with your cravings, but point them in healthy directions using rule #1 (ex: if you crave salt, go for seafood instead of doritos)

#4: Don't eat too much in one sitting

 

 

What I end up eating is mostly fish, chicken and fruits/vegetables. It looks a lot more like a 90's low fat diet than anything, but that isn't a conscious decision: instead of being carefully engineered to agree with today's flash in the pan science (which will condemn me in a month when the science changes), it's carefully engineered to make my body feel good.

 

Like... I see a lot of people here advocating the health benefits of things like bacon and eggs. That's fine, do your thing - but if I eat bacon it makes my heart pound and I feel like ass for hours, and I generally don't like eggs. If I were to follow a dogma that says to eat a lot of those things, I'd always feel like ass while choking down food I hate. I guarantee that would end up being unhealthy for me somehow, just on the basis that my body is so strongly saying "no, fuck you, I don't like ANY of this, leave me alone!"

 

Ultimately, regardless of what science says this month, the underlying reality of nutrition does not change. I don't know that reality myself, but I know it remains constant while papers come out to alternately glorify or demonize this or that. The whole time I'll just be giving my body what it tells me it wants, within reason of course. People who follow science to determine their diets make one unwitting gamble: that science finally got it right this time. I make another gamble: that what my body tells me to eat is a fair approximation of that eternal but unknown nutritional truth.

 

I hope this makes sense to everyone. It's not that I'm trying to say any one way is "better" or "worse," but that excluding science from my own decision making actually ends up sounding more sensible to me personally.

[I-Jo]

 

#2: If fat people regularly eat something, you should never eat it

 

 

glad you said it not me... but I totally feel you on this one.  

 

#4: Don't eat too much in one sitting

stands the test of time- under almost any circumstances. 

[Wolfhorde]

That's very interesting and happens to agree with me, but even that I don't assign a lot of value to for reasons discussed below.

 

 

You brought up a lot of interesting and true points. I'd like to focus on the last one you mentioned - progress - to more fully explain to AquaDash why I choose not to allow science into my decision making process when it comes to my nutrition.

 

I have noticed in my years that people - even the scientists themselves - have a powerful tendency to act as though reality has changed because a new theory has come into vogue. In the pre-Atkins days, everyone by default operated on the assumption that low fat mostly-vegetarian dieting was "good for you." In the post-Atkins days, and now the post-paleo-craze days, the same people are now ex-vegetarians, scoffing at their own previously held ideas and saying that "everyone knows humans evolved to eat (X)," also carrying the underlying assumption that what humans evolved on is 100% going to be what's best for them in all cases.

 

The debate has changed several times, but every time the debate changes everyone acts as though their new consensus - their social reality - actually changes the biological outcome of what a person eats or fails to eat.

 

This is why I believe in no diets or nutritional theories, I am 100% "nutritionally nihilistic" beyond a few underlying assumptions of my own, that I consciously and willfully choose:

 

#1: High nutrient density/natural food is better than low nutrient industrial products

#2: If fat people regularly eat something, you should never eat it

#3: Go with your cravings, but point them in healthy directions using rule #1 (ex: if you crave salt, go for seafood instead of doritos)

#4: Don't eat too much in one sitting

 

 

What I end up eating is mostly fish, chicken and fruits/vegetables. It looks a lot more like a 90's low fat diet than anything, but that isn't a conscious decision: instead of being carefully engineered to agree with today's flash in the pan science (which will condemn me in a month when the science changes), it's carefully engineered to make my body feel good.

 

Like... I see a lot of people here advocating the health benefits of things like bacon and eggs. That's fine, do your thing - but if I eat bacon it makes my heart pound and I feel like ass for hours, and I generally don't like eggs. If I were to follow a dogma that says to eat a lot of those things, I'd always feel like ass while choking down food I hate. I guarantee that would end up being unhealthy for me somehow, just on the basis that my body is so strongly saying "no, fuck you, I don't like ANY of this, leave me alone!"

 

Ultimately, regardless of what science says this month, the underlying reality of nutrition does not change. I don't know that reality myself, but I know it remains constant while papers come out to alternately glorify or demonize this or that. The whole time I'll just be giving my body what it tells me it wants, within reason of course. People who follow science to determine their diets make one unwitting gamble: that science finally got it right this time. I make another gamble: that what my body tells me to eat is a fair approximation of that eternal but unknown nutritional truth.

 

I hope this makes sense to everyone. It's not that I'm trying to say any one way is "better" or "worse," but that excluding science from my own decision making actually ends up sounding more sensible to me personally.

 

I definitely get where you're coming from and as Aqua said, you always have to evaluate whether this part of science will apply to your individual situation. If it doesn't move on. Plus, you don't have to adapt a concept 100% like you're being assimilated by the Borg. You can just frame your own concept with fitting parts that work for you.

 

I'd be careful with #1 and #2 though.

For #1 the standards of these products vary greatly on where you live plus you can easily fall victim to the conntotations that language used to describe certain things, I'd say it depends on what exactly you're talking about. Although I'd agree to the extent that staying away from highly processed foods and foods you can easily recreate yourself with proper ingredients is probably not a bad idea. I wouldn't get attached to labels like 'grass fed' too much because that's not necessarily an indication of quality. Just like bioorganic isn't either. The latter is actually a huge economically profitable niche (at least where I live) but I don't wanna go too much into this right now before I start writing a dissertation. That being said, I'm not implying anything of what I just said applies to you. They're just some issues I've observed quite a bit.

 

As for #2, in conjunction with #1 I still think there needs to be caution with things like these. Like, if someone who's fat regularly eats pasta is that a red flag for me personally? Not really, I've never had problems with it. If somebody who's fat regularly eats bread that's not a red flag for me either - I live in Germany (environmental aspects are always a factor here), bread here's varied as hell and people ranging from normal people to olympic lifters, strongmen and athletes eat it. This is basically the same premise as with scientific studies, I gotta roll with what works for me. (just an example, I personally don't like bread that much - could be substituted with potatoes though)

 

As you already mentioned, e.g. people here and some others are huge proponents of eggs. I'm (somewhat) allergic to raw egg white or eggs that haven't been cooked for a certain amount of time. I'm fine with pasta, baked goods and eggs in casseroles but scrambled eggs and omelettes will wreak havoc on my digestion.

[rutaazul]

I am a Vegetarian and the most common comment I get is "So what do you eat?" People act as if meat is the only food source in the world. Its getting to the point where the next time someone asks that I am going to say "Souls, I eat souls."

 

Another one is "Why are you Vegetarian? You are so skinny already" or this one"That is why you are so thin, you have to eat meat to get muscle." then the go on talking about protein in which they have no clue what they are saying.

 

It always makes me laugh when overweight unhealthy people try to give me nutrition advice.

 

Would love to say "because if I didn't eat like this I would look like you" but my mama taught me to keep my mouth shut if I didn't have anything nice to say...

[Charlie_OA]

my dad is always pressuring me to eat more, he thinks I'm too skinny

 

I am lactose intolerant and I've had people tell me it's a lifestyle choice, like I don't drink milk to lose weight or something ( I do drink milk, the kind with no lactose. I fucking love milk. I really miss cheese)

 

something I get asked at least once a week is "where are you from?" people always think I'm a foreigner cause I speak "funny" and dress/look differently. 

 

Lately I've been getting questions about how can I ride in the cold/rain

 

and another usual one is "how do you know that?"  my usual answer is "I read"

[Timmy M]

and another usual one is "how do you know that?"  my usual answer is "I read"

THIS... though my answer is also occasionally QI

[marionette]

Anytime someone refers to a diet strategy as a "trick". You know, like all the ads in sidebars and banners.

 

"trick your body into losing belly fat"

"this one simple trick.."

 

Blahblahblah. Listen to your body people, figure out what it really wants, don't "trick" it. "Tricks" don't do anything but sell ad space.

[Guest CyborgNinja]

I definitely get where you're coming from and as Aqua said, you always have to evaluate whether this part of science will apply to your individual situation. If it doesn't move on. Plus, you don't have to adapt a concept 100% like you're being assimilated by the Borg. You can just frame your own concept with fitting parts that work for you.

 

I'd be careful with #1 and #2 though.

For #1 the standards of these products vary greatly on where you live plus you can easily fall victim to the conntotations that language used to describe certain things, I'd say it depends on what exactly you're talking about. Although I'd agree to the extent that staying away from highly processed foods and foods you can easily recreate yourself with proper ingredients is probably not a bad idea. I wouldn't get attached to labels like 'grass fed' too much because that's not necessarily an indication of quality. Just like bioorganic isn't either. The latter is actually a huge economically profitable niche (at least where I live) but I don't wanna go too much into this right now before I start writing a dissertation. That being said, I'm not implying anything of what I just said applies to you. They're just some issues I've observed quite a bit.

 

As for #2, in conjunction with #1 I still think there needs to be caution with things like these. Like, if someone who's fat regularly eats pasta is that a red flag for me personally? Not really, I've never had problems with it. If somebody who's fat regularly eats bread that's not a red flag for me either - I live in Germany (environmental aspects are always a factor here), bread here's varied as hell and people ranging from normal people to olympic lifters, strongmen and athletes eat it. This is basically the same premise as with scientific studies, I gotta roll with what works for me. (just an example, I personally don't like bread that much - could be substituted with potatoes though)

 

As you already mentioned, e.g. people here and some others are huge proponents of eggs. I'm (somewhat) allergic to raw egg white or eggs that haven't been cooked for a certain amount of time. I'm fine with pasta, baked goods and eggs in casseroles but scrambled eggs and omelettes will wreak havoc on my digestion.

 

I honestly don't really trust language on packaging much anymore when it comes to identify food quality. If it's produce, I can use smell and touch to figure out pretty quickly if it's watery bullcrap or something worth actually eating. The same with fish: they can color it all they want but they can't fake the fine grain of wild fish. As for "grass fed" and "free ranged" and all that yadda yadda, well, you're right but beef is just not really a part of my diet. It makes me feel like ass so I never eat it if I can avoid it.

 

One good example of a new dogma coming out and everyone screaming like zombies for me to drink the kool-aid is the combination of low carb diets and fasting as a way to get lean. There's several diets now that use one or more of these - paleo, IF, several keto diets, the Warrior Diet and others. On paper they sound great, but they just frankly do not work for me.

 

Fasting does jack, and in fact makes me gain weight - once my starvation metabolism kicks in I burn about -5 calories per hour, then when I finally do eat my hunger causes me to reflexively stuff myself. Low carb does nothing special for me. Trial and error has shown that just snacking blatantly on carbs all day does some combination of things to me that causes me as an individual to lean out. I don't feel compelled to eat piles of food at meals, and in fact tend to eat very light or turn them down entirely because the feeling of being "full" is uncomfortable to me. I don't know if there's any "stoking the metabolic fire" business going on, but either way I know what works for me and it's not what everyone on the internet is always screeching for me to do.

 

I happened to notice that a lot of "naturally skinny" types seem to do the same thing. "Not hungry," then 20 minutes later "BRB fruit/granola bar/other random bit of carbs," repeat.