Sundae Posted February 19, 2012 Report Share Posted February 19, 2012 Well my dad is a huge role model for me, and my grandpa. Though Benjamin Franklin is another man who was great and is a role model for me. "Civilize the Mind, but make Savage the Body." Link to comment
161803398874989 Posted February 19, 2012 Report Share Posted February 19, 2012 Everybody's different and that applies to standards as well. For some people, a real man has to be able to repair lots of things. For others, a real man must be good at keeping his cool in stressful situations. Checklists will always be insufficient to truly capture the essence of 'man-being'.Joke lists are pretty fun and it's always good to 'earn man-points' if you can check off a lot of items. I can almost fill the whole list Blaizen posted (except for the CF stuff, but I think my understanding of bodyweight terminology, Dutch, English, French, German and Latin more than make up for it ). However, I can't fill any of the points on Conk's list.For me, it's not about 'being a man'. It's about becoming as awesome as I can get and this just happens to have a lot of overlap with 'being a man'. Quare? Quod vita mea non tua est. You can call me Phi, Numbers, Sixteen or just plain 161803398874989. Link to comment
67alecto Posted February 19, 2012 Report Share Posted February 19, 2012 Face scar, beard, rebuild engine, rescue kitten, smoke tabacco from a pipe, had glenlivet 21 which is older so I count that, did masonry work on a log cabin so im counting that too... And im 1/5 as manly as steve mcqueen.Rescue kitten from tree - does using a hose count?Take up smoking tobacco from pipe - no thanks. I grew up with two parents who smoked (mom cigarettes, dad cigars). Smoking was never "cool" or "suave" for me.In terms of the rebuild an engine - that brings me to another point. Every "man" should know his way around an engine compartment. Every woman should too, but I'll limit the discussion here for men. Here's my proof.My Fury's engine before and after I rebuilt it:[ATTACH=CONFIG]1827[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=CONFIG]1828[/ATTACH]You need to, at a minimum, be able to:Check all of your fluid levelsChange your own oil (not saying you have to do it every time, but you need to be able to know how)Change your wiper bladesChange your air filterJump start a carDrive a manual transmissionChange a tire using your vehicle's jackChange your fusesChange your bulbsI'm sure there are others, but those are what came to mind this morning.Have fun out there and keep the shiny side up Repairing a lifetime of bad habits... Link to comment
Conk Posted February 19, 2012 Report Share Posted February 19, 2012 I guess not everyone figured out that my "man card" was a random picture I found online for fun. I believe that a man is not classified by what he can do, or the skills he has. Sure, rescuing a kitten, changing your own oil, and building a log cabin are cool beans and all, but they don't have anything to do with being a MAN. I know a lot of boys who can do all three of those things.What changes a boy into a man is not skill or puberty, but a man mentality. Like I said before, there are 15 year old men and there are 60 year old boys. Of course, as men biologically are predisposed to, I am going to write it out in a list form:1. A man should have a sense of identity, and be confident in it. They know who they are, and they know who they are not. They are able to live off of this premise without waivering from side to side. Not just an identity, but a stable identity.2. A man should be a leader. The human male, after puberty, is biologically and mentally predisposed for leading. However, this leader is not the kind that sits on a recliner getting fed grapes by naked women (which seems to be the predominant thought of most of our culture). Leadership is not just power, but sacrificial responsibility. Male leadership requires making hard decisions, and taking the full brunt of the consequences without hesitation. Male leadership requires you to fully devout your time and energy to those whom you are leading, not merely just to yourself in the mirror. Male leadership requires a "good of the group" mentality, not the "whatever I feel like" mentality.3. A man should be resilient, and take the blow for the team. When you look at ancient men, there were fat kings who stood and watched the battle from afar, and there were the kings who put on their armor and charged in with the front lines. One of those kings is a coward, and the other is a man. I think you can figure out which is which. A man must have the courage to overcome fear, in order for his group to survive. Initiative in taking on challenges, regardless of circumstance, is what a man needs. 4. A man should be able to teach and mentor, the fundamental attributes of a father. Without fatherhood, your group will die when you die. This applies to both literal fathering a child, in addition to business leadership. If you cannot humbly teach and pass off your knowledge and occupation, you will destroy your family. Do you know why we have so many adolescent criminals present? Because so many "men" have abandoned the home. There was no father to teach their kids right from wrong, to teach them how to be a man. A boy rasied solely by a single mom cannot learn the traits of manhood, and resorts to "doing whatever he feels like."5. Finally, a man must have a compassionate conscience. If a man kills five mountain lions with his bear hands, has a Fortune 500 company, can deadlift 800 lbs, but is unable to love one woman his whole life or cannot help a homeless man get off the street, he is still a child. If you don't learn to love others, all you do is in vain. If you actually don't care about those you lead, how can you consider yourself a leader? When you look at nature, the alpha male in packs is usually the biggest, strongest, and smartest. But if being the biggest, strongest, and smartest is the goal in itself, why are they the leaders? The alpha males use those abilities to look out for the rest of the group. They make the decisions, because they know what is best for the group, because the alpha male CARES about what happens to the group. "All hard work brings a profit, but mere talk leads only to poverty." -Proverbs 14:23 ---------------------------------------------------------- I. AM. A. BEAST!!!!!!!!!" - Link to comment
Guest Snake McClain Posted February 19, 2012 Report Share Posted February 19, 2012 Rescue kitten from tree - does using a hose count?Take up smoking tobacco from pipe - no thanks. I grew up with two parents who smoked (mom cigarettes, dad cigars). Smoking was never "cool" or "suave" for me.In terms of the rebuild an engine - that brings me to another point. Every "man" should know his way around an engine compartment. Every woman should too, but I'll limit the discussion here for men. Here's my proof.My Fury's engine before and after I rebuilt it:[ATTACH=CONFIG]1827[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=CONFIG]1828[/ATTACH]You need to, at a minimum, be able to:Check all of your fluid levelsChange your own oil (not saying you have to do it every time, but you need to be able to know how)Change your wiper bladesChange your air filterJump start a carDrive a manual transmissionChange a tire using your vehicle's jackChange your fusesChange your bulbsI'm sure there are others, but those are what came to mind this morning.Have fun out there and keep the shiny side u I just sold my 69oldsresearch cutlass yesterday. It made me sad. I guess not everyone figured out that my "man card" was a random picture I found online for fun. I believe that a man is not classified by what he can do, or the skills he has. Sure, rescuing a kitten, changing your own oil, and building a log cabin are cool beans and all, but they don't have anything to do with being a MAN. I know a lot of boys who can do all three of those things.What changes a boy into a man is not skill or puberty, but a man mentality. Like I said before, there are 15 year old men and there are 60 year old boys. Of course, as men biologically are predisposed to, I am going to write it out in a list form:1. A man should have a sense of identity, and be confident in it. They know who they are, and they know who they are not. They are able to live off of this premise without waivering from side to side. Not just an identity, but a stable identity.2. A man should be a leader. The human male, after puberty, is biologically and mentally predisposed for leading. However, this leader is not the kind that sits on a recliner getting fed grapes by naked women (which seems to be the predominant thought of most of our culture). Leadership is not just power, but sacrificial responsibility. Male leadership requires making hard decisions, and taking the full brunt of the consequences without hesitation. Male leadership requires you to fully devout your time and energy to those whom you are leading, not merely just to yourself in the mirror. Male leadership requires a "good of the group" mentality, not the "whatever I feel like" mentality.3. A man should be resilient, and take the blow for the team. When you look at ancient men, there were fat kings who stood and watched the battle from afar, and there were the kings who put on their armor and charged in with the front lines. One of those kings is a coward, and the other is a man. I think you can figure out which is which. A man must have the courage to overcome fear, in order for his group to survive. Initiative in taking on challenges, regardless of circumstance, is what a man needs. 4. A man should be able to teach and mentor, the fundamental attributes of a father. Without fatherhood, your group will die when you die. This applies to both literal fathering a child, in addition to business leadership. If you cannot humbly teach and pass off your knowledge and occupation, you will destroy your family. Do you know why we have so many adolescent criminals present? Because so many "men" have abandoned the home. There was no father to teach their kids right from wrong, to teach them how to be a man. A boy rasied solely by a single mom cannot learn the traits of manhood, and resorts to "doing whatever he feels like."5. Finally, a man must have a compassionate conscience. If a man kills five mountain lions with his bear hands, has a Fortune 500 company, can deadlift 800 lbs, but is unable to love one woman his whole life or cannot help a homeless man get off the street, he is still a child. If you don't learn to love others, all you do is in vain. If you actually don't care about those you lead, how can you consider yourself a leader? When you look at nature, the alpha male in packs is usually the biggest, strongest, and smartest. But if being the biggest, strongest, and smartest is the goal in itself, why are they the leaders? The alpha males use those abilities to look out for the rest of the group. They make the decisions, because they know what is best for the group, because the alpha male CARES about what happens to the group.Agreed. Link to comment
WizardTrip Posted February 24, 2012 Report Share Posted February 24, 2012 To keep this thread alive, today's AoM post. Never really thought about these other than the badass Gladiator quote that gives me chills every time:Maximus: My name is Maximus Decimus Meridius, commander of the Armies of the North, General of the Felix Legions, loyal servant to the true emperor, Marcus Aurelius. Father to a murdered son, husband to a murdered wife. And I will have my vengeance, in this life or the next.http://artofmanliness.com/2012/02/24/unsung-manly-movie-quotes-for-every-occasion/ Level 6 Wizard of Beer Warrior STR 21.25 | DEX 5.75 | STA 7.75 | CON 3.50 | WIS 9.50 | CHA 3.25 Twitter | Epic Trip | Current Challenge Previous Challenges: 1 2 3 4 5 *the warrior formerly known as icedtrip and former dothraki god of thunder furyan* Link to comment
bigm141414 Posted February 24, 2012 Report Share Posted February 24, 2012 Yeah i read that article this morning. Good stuff. The Rocky quote is quite stirring as well. "Pull the bar like you're ripping the head off a god-damned lion" - Donny Shankle Link to comment
Gainsdalf the Whey Posted February 24, 2012 Report Share Posted February 24, 2012 That one is good, and it gives me chills every time.However the bigger one for me is the Rocky quote in that article. I see too many people in life these days blaming everything on everyone and everything else in their life. Too few take the responsibility for their decisions and their predicament on themselves. Until you do that, you have no power to change it. Massrandir, Barkûn, Swolórin, The Whey Pilgrim 500 / 330 / 625 Challenges: 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 31 32 34 35 36 39 41 42 45 46 47 48 49 Current Challenge "No citizen has a right to be an amateur in the matter of physical training. What a disgrace it is for a man to grow old without ever seeing the beauty and strength of which his body is capable. " ~ Socrates "Friends don't let friends squat high." ~ Chad Wesley Smith "It's a dangerous business, Brodo, squatting to the floor. You step into the rack, and if you don't keep your form, there's no knowing where you might be swept off to." ~ Gainsdalf Link to comment
chairohkey Posted February 24, 2012 Report Share Posted February 24, 2012 Yeah i read that article this morning. Good stuff. The Rocky quote is quite stirring as well.I literally tear up everytime I watch it. Link to comment
bigm141414 Posted February 24, 2012 Report Share Posted February 24, 2012 I literally tear up everytime I watch it.I literally see what you did there. "Pull the bar like you're ripping the head off a god-damned lion" - Donny Shankle Link to comment
WizardTrip Posted February 24, 2012 Report Share Posted February 24, 2012 Yeah i read that article this morning. Good stuff. The Rocky quote is quite stirring as well.That one is good, and it gives me chills every time.However the bigger one for me is the Rocky quote in that article. I see too many people in life these days blaming everything on everyone and everything else in their life. Too few take the responsibility for their decisions and their predicament on themselves. Until you do that, you have no power to change it.I agree, that one really hit me hard too! I had forgotten all about it until I read it there. Level 6 Wizard of Beer Warrior STR 21.25 | DEX 5.75 | STA 7.75 | CON 3.50 | WIS 9.50 | CHA 3.25 Twitter | Epic Trip | Current Challenge Previous Challenges: 1 2 3 4 5 *the warrior formerly known as icedtrip and former dothraki god of thunder furyan* Link to comment
Anivair Posted February 24, 2012 Report Share Posted February 24, 2012 I like the Rocky speech. Never saw the new movie. Was it any good? Level 3 Human Ranger STR: 9 DEX: 5.25 STA: 14.5 CON: 5.5 WIS: 16 CHA: 5.5 My Current Challenge Link to comment
Gainsdalf the Whey Posted February 24, 2012 Report Share Posted February 24, 2012 Wasn't great, wasn't terrible. I just hate the twist the use to help make it realistic. Massrandir, Barkûn, Swolórin, The Whey Pilgrim 500 / 330 / 625 Challenges: 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 31 32 34 35 36 39 41 42 45 46 47 48 49 Current Challenge "No citizen has a right to be an amateur in the matter of physical training. What a disgrace it is for a man to grow old without ever seeing the beauty and strength of which his body is capable. " ~ Socrates "Friends don't let friends squat high." ~ Chad Wesley Smith "It's a dangerous business, Brodo, squatting to the floor. You step into the rack, and if you don't keep your form, there's no knowing where you might be swept off to." ~ Gainsdalf Link to comment
Thrillho Posted February 25, 2012 Report Share Posted February 25, 2012 I sort of liked the new movie... at least it wasn't as godawful as the new Rambo movie. Pleh. The new Rocky was a very well-made, well-shot and well-acted movie, but it wasn't a great movie. Good way to end the series, though, after Rocky V. I really like this thread and I have a lot of stuff I think I could add to it, but right now I have two kids hugging my legs, demanding waffles. Excuse me. The cancer was aggressive, but the chemotherapy was aggressive, as well. There was aggression on both sides. Link to comment
wildross Posted February 25, 2012 Report Share Posted February 25, 2012 Waffles!! Warriors don't count reps and sets. They count tons. My psychologist weighs 45 pounds, has an iron soul and sits on the end of a bar Tally Sheet for 2019 Encouragement for older members: Chronologically Blessed Group; Encouragement for newbie lifters: When we were weaker Link to comment
Conk Posted February 25, 2012 Report Share Posted February 25, 2012 I also demand waffles!!!!STAT!!!! "All hard work brings a profit, but mere talk leads only to poverty." -Proverbs 14:23 ---------------------------------------------------------- I. AM. A. BEAST!!!!!!!!!" - Link to comment
Thrillho Posted February 25, 2012 Report Share Posted February 25, 2012 You'll have to fight my daughters for them, and the older one is cranky. She'll fuck you up. The cancer was aggressive, but the chemotherapy was aggressive, as well. There was aggression on both sides. Link to comment
Red1263 Posted February 26, 2012 Report Share Posted February 26, 2012 I guess not everyone figured out that my "man card" was a random picture I found online for fun. I believe that a man is not classified by what he can do, or the skills he has. Sure, rescuing a kitten, changing your own oil, and building a log cabin are cool beans and all, but they don't have anything to do with being a MAN. I know a lot of boys who can do all three of those things.What changes a boy into a man is not skill or puberty, but a man mentality. Like I said before, there are 15 year old men and there are 60 year old boys. Of course, as men biologically are predisposed to, I am going to write it out in a list form:1. A man should have a sense of identity, and be confident in it. They know who they are, and they know who they are not. They are able to live off of this premise without waivering from side to side. Not just an identity, but a stable identity.2. A man should be a leader. The human male, after puberty, is biologically and mentally predisposed for leading. However, this leader is not the kind that sits on a recliner getting fed grapes by naked women (which seems to be the predominant thought of most of our culture). Leadership is not just power, but sacrificial responsibility. Male leadership requires making hard decisions, and taking the full brunt of the consequences without hesitation. Male leadership requires you to fully devout your time and energy to those whom you are leading, not merely just to yourself in the mirror. Male leadership requires a "good of the group" mentality, not the "whatever I feel like" mentality.3. A man should be resilient, and take the blow for the team. When you look at ancient men, there were fat kings who stood and watched the battle from afar, and there were the kings who put on their armor and charged in with the front lines. One of those kings is a coward, and the other is a man. I think you can figure out which is which. A man must have the courage to overcome fear, in order for his group to survive. Initiative in taking on challenges, regardless of circumstance, is what a man needs. 4. A man should be able to teach and mentor, the fundamental attributes of a father. Without fatherhood, your group will die when you die. This applies to both literal fathering a child, in addition to business leadership. If you cannot humbly teach and pass off your knowledge and occupation, you will destroy your family. Do you know why we have so many adolescent criminals present? Because so many "men" have abandoned the home. There was no father to teach their kids right from wrong, to teach them how to be a man. A boy rasied solely by a single mom cannot learn the traits of manhood, and resorts to "doing whatever he feels like."5. Finally, a man must have a compassionate conscience. If a man kills five mountain lions with his bear hands, has a Fortune 500 company, can deadlift 800 lbs, but is unable to love one woman his whole life or cannot help a homeless man get off the street, he is still a child. If you don't learn to love others, all you do is in vain. If you actually don't care about those you lead, how can you consider yourself a leader? When you look at nature, the alpha male in packs is usually the biggest, strongest, and smartest. But if being the biggest, strongest, and smartest is the goal in itself, why are they the leaders? The alpha males use those abilities to look out for the rest of the group. They make the decisions, because they know what is best for the group, because the alpha male CARES about what happens to the group.I believe this is a very solid definition that we should strive for, with modifications specified for each of our individual situations. Also, I look at the website Art of Manliness.com for some more ideas as to what responsibilities and traits I should strive to achieve for the title of 'Man' Level 25 Final Fantasy Rebel My Epic Quest | My Journey | Currently on the Trial of Orthos Str: 60 | Dex: 23 | Sta: 66 | Con: 28 | Wis: 55 | Cha: 14 Goals for 2021: Spoiler Build my brother a Destiny 2 Lamp Learn how to do a Handstand Play 1 song on the acoustic guitar Clean up the Christmas Decorations and finish setting up my apartment (hang things up, plus some other few things that need to be organized) Re-introduce Pull-ups into my routine Build a shelving unit next to my Desk "No matter what, if you can hold your head up high, you've done the right thing." "When you stand with your family, your family stands with you." "Write what needs to be written." Link to comment
161803398874989 Posted February 26, 2012 Report Share Posted February 26, 2012 Argh, sometimes I hate one of my friends. >.> Anytime the topic of the conversation is about sex, he starts talking about 'our' inexperience, constantly talking about how 'we' can't get girls. Referring to me and him. I'm very tempted just to get a random girl to make him shut up. Quare? Quod vita mea non tua est. You can call me Phi, Numbers, Sixteen or just plain 161803398874989. Link to comment
Guest Snake McClain Posted February 26, 2012 Report Share Posted February 26, 2012 I keep leaving for a week to come back to good things in this thread. Link to comment
notanartmajor Posted February 27, 2012 Report Share Posted February 27, 2012 Oh come on, the new Rambo was good. Mind you, my childhood impression of Rambo was less "First Blood style emotionally broken war veteran" and more "machinegun ALL the things!" so it really delivered what I was expecting.Methinks I need to catch up on the topics discussed so far.Penises, while hideous, are certainly something to be proud of sometimes. Please use responsibly.Beer is so-so (with the exception of a few dark varieties), mead is what the real barbarians drink.I don't really have a role model as such. I wish I did have a wise mentor-type person, but sadly that's not the case.I have some (a lot if you ask my wife) gray hair, I'm only 27. Whatever, long as it doesn't fall out it can be whatever color it pleases.I'll gladly take the hit to my mancard, but Crossfit shouldn't be a component of it.Art of Manliness is great.There, I think I covered the high points. Link to comment
Thrillho Posted February 27, 2012 Report Share Posted February 27, 2012 My mead almost killed me. Smelled like turpentine, tasted like flat Coke with absolutely no trace of alcohol, and one crisp, cool mugful had me completely hammered. BY ODIN'S BEARD IT WAS GOOD. The cancer was aggressive, but the chemotherapy was aggressive, as well. There was aggression on both sides. Link to comment
notanartmajor Posted February 27, 2012 Report Share Posted February 27, 2012 That might've actually been turpentine. Did you make it yourself? Link to comment
Thrillho Posted February 27, 2012 Report Share Posted February 27, 2012 Yup, out of black honey I got from a local apiary, Hilltop Farms. It was rock-solid honey, wasn't good for much except baking, so I turned most of it into mead. The cancer was aggressive, but the chemotherapy was aggressive, as well. There was aggression on both sides. Link to comment
Waldo Posted February 27, 2012 Report Share Posted February 27, 2012 Argh, sometimes I hate one of my friends. >.> Anytime the topic of the conversation is about sex, he starts talking about 'our' inexperience.LOL @ young single guysAmazing how it changes over the years and how the discussion disappears (aside for comedians). The art of getting some -> the art of doing it better than anybody else -> the art of getting the wife to put out.... currently cutting battle log challenges: 21,20, 19,18,17,16,15,14,13,12,11,10,9,8,7,6,5,4,3,2,1 don't panic! Link to comment
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